Joe Martinek

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  1. Guest

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    There is a nice article on Joe in Draftdaddy.com. He is getting more reps in practice than his 3 rb competitors. The only thing I didint like was that they said he wasnt overly fast. If I recall Joe runs a 10.8 100 meter dash and is a state javelin champion. Anybody that runs 10.8 is fast and quick.
     
  2. White Power

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    I think sooner or later Martinek will win the job and even then Schiano wll have to play the best player at the position, and that would be Martinek by a long stretch. He will get carries the ist game and if he produces then he will get more chances to prove himself. Lets all remember the rules are different for white boys and all other non whites at running back.
     
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    here is the link to the full article.

    while it does praise Joe for clawing his way up the depth chart after being labeled as a defensive player last year, the first paragraph shows how most of the sheeple (including most all sports "journalists") view him.
    so, once again, we have a white player who has almost no talent whatsoever, yet makes plays every time he's given a chance... how exactly does that work? [​IMG]
     
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    Rutgers should platoon their RBs. Kordell Young was nothing better than solid in the first game. Rutgers ran a few failed plays to backup Mason Robinson, but gave Joe Martinek zero carries. I'm hoping Shianno isn't as much of a caste whore as I think he is. Martinek needs to see the field a little so they can see what they've got in him and if he does, I have the feeling he'll impress. With Lippincott injured and Kyle Bell not looking very good, I need another white RB to get excited about. [​IMG]
     
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    Kordell Young ran for 3.8 YPC with 26 carries in the first game, but it was only his first game and he showed some signs of talent and scored a TD. Kordell did show some signs of why he started #1 on the depth chart. In the last game Kordell was injured. Last game Mason Robinson and Jourdan Brooks got every single carry. I thought there was a battle going on according to the NJ Star Ledger for the number 2 and 3 job at the onset of the season, with even Kordell feeling presure for the #1.

    In an article in that paper before the first game, they talked about how Martinek was the only effective RB in the first scrimmage. Joe had 4 carries in that game for 37 yards and Shiano said "I think Joe continues to deserve more and more reps." Last game Robinson and Brooks, the latter of who wasn't really supposed to be ahead of Martinek on the depth, each had a bunch of carries 16 and 7 respectively. They were not very impressive early and then got some good runs late when Rutgers was far behind and the opposition was expecting pass. Even one ESPN analyst commented at the half that Rutgers running game looked to be pretty ineffective

    Why the hell did Martinek not get a single carry? I repeat "zero" carries. Martinek was said to be performing well in the pre-season and in the mix. The answer to why Joe had zero carries in the first two games must have to do with his skin pigment. I can't believe last game with the injuries and Rutgers falling way behind that Joe didn't get some carries late in the game. If Joe sees no time this year, he should think about getting out of coal black Rutgers. Washington State, Colorado State or BYU anyone?
     
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    Rutgers Rushing
    Player Carries Yds Avg TDs
    Jourdan Brooks 22 134 6.1 2
    Joe Martinek 8 61 7.6 1
    Tim Brown 1 6 6.0 0
    Jabu Lovelace 2 5 2.5 0

    Stats from Navy game
     
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    Nice game for Joe! Hope he can see the field more.
     
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    It should be noted that Rugters coach went to freshman in the running game and sadly Brooks got the job done. Martinek had a good game and will see more carries this yr, but will not see 22 carries as the other freshman Brooks did.
     
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    I can hear the sound of a "non-stop motor" reving its engine somewhere.[​IMG] Edited by: Ground Fighter
     
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    Martinek saw no time. Robinson replaced him!

    Rutgers

    Rushing No Gain Loss Net TD Lg Avg
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    BROOKS, Jourdan 17613& nbsp;58 0 10 3.4
    TEEL, Mike3& nbsp;12111 1 7 3.7
    ROBINSON, Mason 674&nb sp;3 0 5 0.5
    Totals...26& nbsp;80872 1 10 2.8
     
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    here is yet another example, on the countless list, of why Caste Football exists ... this time concerning the return of Rutgers' black savior at tailback.

    this is a complete and total lie. the fact is, that Young has a career long of 22 yards, way back in 2006. he has carried the ball a (current) total of 73 times in his injury-plagued collegiate career in order to manage that long run.

    is this what equals "explosiveness" in the eyes of the media? if the athlete in question is black and his replacement is white, apparently yes.

    meanwhile, Joe Martinek has already surpassed that Young-based measuring stick. Martinek, on just 17 career carries, already has a long-rush of 29 yards.

    also, Martinek has an average of 5.1 yards-per-carry compared to 4.0 for Young. furthermore, Martinek is more physically imposing at 6-0, 215 pounds. Young is a diminutive 5-9, 185. yet, Martinek rides the pine, while Young carries the "hopes and dreams" of Rutgers running game?

    once again, the facts bear out the existence of the Caste System. but it seems most people prefer to not be confused by the facts. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I usually root for Rutgers, seeing how they are my "local" team. When I discovered they had a freshman white running back, I once again became more interested in the team. I did not have high expectations for Joe seeing how most freshman have to pay their dues and wait till the better upper-class man players leave.

    However, as this season goes on is becoming apparent that the "players" I alluded to do not exist. The guys getting playing time ahead of Joe stink and are a far cry from Brian Leonard and Ray Rice. The team (no coincidence) is 1-4. In a lost season, why not play the freshman and see what the future has in store.

    Seeing Joe play would be the only reason to watch the awful team play. If not, I will root for this team to lose the rest of their games and return the the Big East laughing stock they used to be.
     
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    Kordell Young continues to underperform. I thought this guy had some talent, but clearly Martinek should be getting some carries as Kordell continues to play unimpressive.

    Kordell's long run of the season is 16 yards on 96 carries. That is utterly pathetic. His stats are currently 96-337-3.5 YPC-4TD. Joe Martinek has a long run of 29 yards on only 17 carries. Martinek is also NJ's all-time leading rusher in high school, yet somehow Kordell Young is some kind of superstar where Martinek cannot be used at all. Jourdon Brooks and Mason Robinson also both have at least double the carries of Joe, yet Joe has the best YPC and longest run on the team!

    Martinek was a stud in H.S, but Greg Shianno is one of the biggest caste whores in the industry somehow believing that Joe is the 4th best RB. The other 3 guys have not been on the team longer than Joe and have done less with their opportunities and according to the NJ Star Ledger; this pre-season in scrimmages too.

    Martinek's situation is not like the McGuffie situation at all, where Jr. Brandon Minor was given more carries than Sam recently since he is a veteran and McGuffie has only been solid with basically a written-off season. I still think McGuffie is the future and this will give him less chance of getting hurt in a meaningless season with a crappy o-line and offense.

    I hope Rutgers fails until they actually are fair to Joe. Down with Greg Shianno!
     
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    DraftDaddy just linked this article on Martinek.

    it shows just how much bullcrap a white running back has to go through in the hopes he'll get a chance to play. [​IMG]

     
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    "It takes someone who is pretty unselfish," Schiano said. "Joe is a great team football player."


    That's the exact same line Schiano would crow about Brian Leonard as he converted him from a tailback to a blocking fullback his senior season.


    I wonder if Brian regrets being so "unselfish." It ended any chance he had of running the ball in the NFL. There's a difference between being a team player andeagerly going along with the squashing of your goal of playing pro ball.
     
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    Here is what I posted under another thread about Joe after this past weeks game. Joe currently has run for 7.3 YPC, the second best YPC on the team is 4.6 YPC. Mason Robinson has double the carries of Martinek, but less yards. Yeah; and as you say, the most productive players supposedly play right Texas Tech/ Maximus?

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    and they gave him to him for great results. almost 100 yards and 2 rushing TDs! [​IMG]
     
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    Joe Martinek article

    Rutgers' Martinek makes his presence felt on the field ... and in cyberspace
    by Tom Luicci/The Star-Ledger
    Friday November 21, 2008, 5:00 PM

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    Saed Hindash/The Star-Ledger
    Joe Martinek was reluctant to have a website at first, but likes the attention it has received.The way it usually works for college athletes is they make their mark first and then have their own website. At least one fan of Rutgers running back Joe Martinek believes that's only a matter of time.

    Martinek making his mark, that is.

    "Jersey" Joe already has his own website .

    It's the creation of Chris Palermo, a 1994 graduate of Hopatcong High School, which is where Martinek starred en route to becoming the career rushing leader in New Jersey high school history. Palermo also bills himself as a New Jersey "high school football enthusiast."

    "I didn't create it," said Martinek, a redshirt freshman who has moved up to back-up tailback behind starter Kordell Young on the Knights' depth chart after rushing for a career-high 98 yards and two touchdowns at South Florida on Nov. 15. "(Palermo) e-mailed my dad one day. That's what he does, he builds websites. His mom was my brother's teacher at one point, so that's how we all kind of connected."

    Martinek, who has already endeared himself to Rutgers fans by making the most of his limited opportunities so far -- 236 yards on 40 carries with four touchdowns -- and because of his blue collar approach. Martinek isn't the flashiest player, but makes things happen whether he is running the ball, catching it or playing on special teams.

    The website has an updated bio, updated stats and lists Martinek's achievements, including where his 7,589 rushing yards rank on the national high school career rushing list.

    "The final say is ours (as far as what goes on the website)," said Martinek. "He runs everything by us. He's good with that. My dad and I monitor it every day."

    Rutgers coach Greg Schiano only learned this week that Martinek, who has yet to start a college game, already has his own website. He seemed more amused by it than anything.

    "He has a website? Is that right?" said Schiano. "It's a new age."

    Martinek said he admitted to being reluctant at first to having the website, but says he is pleased with it -- and with the attention it has received.

    One thing you won't find on it: How fast the 6-0, 215-pounder really is. Martinek, a physical runner with quickness, has heard his entire life that he has "deceptive speed," which he admits bothers him. He has shown plenty of explosion in limited opportunities -- something that seems to continually surprise onlookers.

    "I hear that all the time about my speed, how people say they are surprised how fast I am," said Martinek. "My last 40 time was a 4.4. I forget how long ago it was. But that was the last time I had it recorded."

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    Blue collar, not the flashiest player, and then they mention that he's been called deceptively fast and that his explosion in limited opportunities seems to continually surprise onlookers. Well, its no surprise to me, but it would be so nice if one of these spineless "reporters" actually asked and answered the question of why this is. I hope Joe starts, by whatever means, and dominates the Big East.
     
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    He's giving Rutgers a spark!
     
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    Shaun King mumbled and stuttered his way through the Rutgers/NC State broadcast today.

    He was at his illiterate caste-best when he gave Rutgers' black starting RB the credit for wearing down the NC State defense, making it easy for Joe Martinek to get several long runs late in the game. [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah I heard that ridiculous comment on the broadcast giving Brooks the credit. You aren't useful to wear a D down no matter how big you are when you keep getting stuffed for no gain.

    Martinek did really well "yet again" and deserves to be the starter for Rutgers. Martinek basically closed the game for Rutgers. He kept breaking off some good runs. He had only one bad run where he was nailed in the backfield. Martinek has superb vision and a great burst and is quite shifty. His top end speed isn't as good as Kordell Young or Mason Robinson, but in ever other area he is the better RB.

    Rutgers should use Martinek as the starter giving him 15-25 carries every game and then bring in Jourdon Brooks a little as a change of pace late in games. Martinek had 3 of Rutgers 4 longest runs this season despite having only the 3rd most carries. I'm just about positive he finished the season as the leading RB in yards per carry too.

    Kordel Young is way overrated (he should barely play at all) and to top it off is always hurt, Mason Robinson just sucks( he deserves no action) and Jourdon Brooks should be the change of pace guy. Hopefully Joe will have a chance at a 175+ carry season and 1,000 yards next year. He'll need a 1,000 yard season to get noticed by the NFL.
     
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    Joe Martinek will start next year if not Schiano will be let go for refusing not to play the best player at a very important position at least I hope this is the case. I mean quit looking for the next F***king Ray Rice, Schiano and just play Martinek. He is your best runner by far.
     

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