Joe Gibbs Resigns

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  1. GWTJ

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    Gibbs just resigned and this article spares no compliment in describing St Joe.


    Joe Gibbs Resigns As Redskins Coach
    By JOSEPH WHITE,Associated Press
    Posted: 2008-01-08 13:13:33
    ASHBURN, Va. (AP) - After the toughest season of his Hall of Fame career, one that tested his leadership like never before, Joe Gibbs is stepping down. He resigned as coach and team president of the Washington Redskins on Tuesday, three days after a playoff loss ended an inspirational late-season run that followed the death of safety Sean Taylor.

    Gibbs will remain as a special adviser to owner Dan Snyder and was to discuss his resignation at an afternoon news conference at Redskins Park. The news startled players, who left Sunday's final team meeting certain their 67-year-old coach would return for the final year of his contract.

    "That's part of this business - it's full of surprises," safety Pierson Prioleau said. "Most of us suspected he would be back, and he'll definitely be missed."

    Among the candidates to replace Gibbs will be two former head coaches on his staff, Gregg Williams and Al Saunders. Former Pittsburgh coach Bill Cowher also could be a candidate. The team will have to interview at least one minority to comply with the NFL's "Rooney Rule" as it seeks the sixth coach since Snyder bought the team in 1999.

    Some players on Tuesday immediately endorsed Williams, the fiery coach Gibbs hired to run the defense in 2004. Williams was 17-31 as head coach of the Buffalo Bills from 2001-03 but has put together solid defenses in three of his four seasons in Washington. Williams' in-your-face style would be a marked contrast to Gibbs' more measured approach.

    "Coach Williams is a great coach," fullback Mike Sellers said. "The players love him. It would be sad to see him not get it."

    Gibbs went 31-36, including 1-2 in the playoffs, after emerging from NFL retirement and his NASCAR career to sign a five-year, $27.5 million contract in 2004. He had always maintained he intended to fulfill the contract, but he wavered from that stance Monday when asked if he would return for the 2008 season.

    Gibbs' resignation brings an end to a coaching career in which he twice raised the Redskins from mediocrity into a playoff team, although he failed in his goal of bringing the team back to the Super Bowl during his second stint in Washington. Gibbs won three NFL titles during his first stint from 1981-92; the second time he took the team to the postseason in two of his four seasons.

    His decision to leave follows perhaps the best coaching performance of his career. After the death of the Taylor on Nov. 27, the Redskins lost a game to Buffalo in which Gibbs was flagged for a vital 15-yard penalty for trying to call back-to-back timeouts in the final moments. Gibbs said he wasn't aware of the rule, giving more fodder to the argument that his game management skills had waned.

    "I just recall after the Buffalo game him saying that he made a bad call and that he didn't know if the game was for him anymore," kick returner Rock Cartwright said. "And (quarterback) Mark Brunell stood up and told him that we win together and lose together so don't put that on yourself. That could have been a sign right there."

    But, following Taylor's funeral, Gibbs and his team rallied to win the final four regular-season games, going from 5-7 to 9-7 to claim the final playoff berth in the NFC. The emotional run ended Saturday, when the Redskins lost 35-14 at Seattle in the wild-card playoffs.

    "It was the toughest (season) for me," Gibbs said Monday. "When you go through a season like that, for a while it's kind of hard to regrasp reality."

    Gibbs also has endured a personal crisis for a year. One of his grandsons, Taylor, was diagnosed with leukemia last January at age 2. Gibbs frequently talks lovingly about his "grandbabies," and he made an overnight trip to North Carolina on Sunday to be with his family, interrupting the postseason routine of meetings that usually follow the final game of the season.

    Still, for much of the season, Gibbs seemed intent on returning to coach. Players and coaches said publicly and privately over the last week that they would be shocked if he didn't stay on to finish the job. Last month, he said he would be open to discussing a contract extension so that he would not return next season as a lame-duck coach.

    At a news conference Monday, Gibbs spoke about plans for next season - the team's approach to free agency, offseason workouts and the possibility of an open quarterback competition at training camp - as if he were going to remain on the sidelines. However, he hedged when asked if he would definitely be back, saying it would hinge on his meeting Monday night with Snyder.

    "Everybody's situation will be taken into context here - including mine, and my future here and all that," Gibbs said Monday.

    Gibbs went 124-60 during the regular season and 16-5 during the playoffs during his first term with the Redskins. He won Super Bowls following the 1981, 1987 and 1991 seasons with three different quarterbacks.

    Having said repeatedly that he did not intend to coach again, Gibbs was inducted in the Hall of Fame in 1996. Snyder lured him out of retirement four years ago to rescue a franchise that had floundered for more than a decade, having made only one playoff appearance since Gibbs' first retirement.

    Gibbs' last four years were down-and-up, down-and-up. He had his two worst seasons as a coach - 6-10 in 2004 and 5-11 in 2006 - but he also led the Redskins to the playoffs with late runs in 2005 and 2007.

    "There's not enough words to say what he's done for the organization," Cartwright said. "Especially this year. We had a tough year, he pulled it all together and brought us closer as a family."

    Gibbs' final career totals: 171-101, including 17-7 in the playoffs, a career .629 winning percentage that ranks third all-time behind George Halas and Don Shula among coaches with more than 125 wins.
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    Brian Billick and Joe Gibbs, both gone. [​IMG] They'll both be replaced by more of the same, but still it's nice to see them go. Good riddance.
     
  3. Tom Iron

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    Don,

    Let's not be too pessimistic. There's always a chance that a good guy might get a head coaches job.

    Myself, I still hold out hope that coach Mangini in NY is going to turn out to be one of those good guys. It's still very early in the day to think of him as a caste coach.

    Tom Iron...
     
  4. Thrashen

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    Gibbs was like the turd that wouldnt flush.

    His recent stint with the Redskins was truely shameful, as he turned his back on every possible white player that tried to make the team (Jesse Ludsmen, along with about 7-8 white WRs).

    All I know for sure is that Bigunreal will be happy to hear this joyous news [​IMG] [​IMG] . It's safe to say that he hated Gibbs the most of all! I'm sure Dan Snyder will hire some die-hard caste coach...I wonder what Jimmie Johnson's up to?
     
  5. forty-four

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    Anybody have any thoughts on the recent candidates to become head coach in Washingron? Are anyof them relatively "white friendly?" Mora? The guy from the Colts? Williams looks to be a strong possibility. Were his teams in Buffalo the usual or did he buxk the caste system even a little? I'm guessing the GM has a lot to do with these things. Williams' defenses were certainly all too typical for the NFL these days.
     
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    I wouldn't expect Gregg Williams to be a Caste System buster. This is the guy who ran Adam Archuleta out of town last season. Mora is a typical Caste clown, although his Falcon teams did have more whites than most on defense, and he allowed Brian Finneran to play WR (although not be a starter, even though he was usually the most productive receiver on the team). He is the son of Jim Mora, long-time coach of the Saints and Colts, and I don't believe he ever started any whites on defense (especially with the Saints). If the black assistant from Indy is anything like Dungy, he'd probably be the most friendly to whites (although that isn't saying much).

    Other than the period during the early 1980s, when they shockingly handed the full-time RB duties over to John Riggins, who was considered to be at the end of his career, the Redskins have been one of the blacker teams in the NFL since they, ironically enough, became the last team to integrate their roster.

    I looked online and found the rosters for the Redskins' Super Bowl teams from 4 seasons. Here are the approximate number of white players from each of those teams:

    1972- 28
    1982- 23
    1987- 22
    1991- 19

    So, except for the 1972 season (when the majority of the teams had probably even more white players), even as early as 1982, the Redskins were really no more white- friendly than the Colts and Patriots are today.

    I think it may be playing to their demographics, but if the Caste System is ever broken by any team, it's not likely to be the Redskins.
     
  7. Colonel_Reb

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    bigunreal, nice stuff there, except that the 82 Skins had more white starters than any of the current teams do. Having more white starters is key to the Caste System breaking down. You can have a lot of whites on the sidelines, but what makes the biggest difference in changing public opinion is having them on the field. Edited by: Colonel_Reb
     
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    Great post, but I'll quibble about Mora. In 2003, Dan Reeves' last year as head coach of the Falcons, they had a league high 10 white starters (including4 on defense) and 23 overall. Beginning in '04, Mora noticeably blackened the team each season until it became the coal black mess he left. He's one of the worst Caste coaches in recent years. Willliams is just plain blah, a typical Caste coach who won't rock the boat. His Bills teams were probably as black as any in franchise history.
     
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    Thanks men. Good stuff. It looks like Mora is out. I'm thinking Snyder will break the news before the Super Bowl. Edited by: forty-four
     
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    Greg Blache becomes the D coordinator and Jim Zorn is going to run the offense. No head coach yet though.
     
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    It's looing like Jim Fassel is coming to Washington. Any thoughts on him from a caste perspective. I figure he is probably going to be typical. I don't recall his NY teams being any different in their composition. From looking around the archives here it looks like it got worse in NY under Fassel's reign. [​IMG]Edited by: forty-four
     
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    "It's looing like Jim Fassel is coming to Washington. Any thoughts on him from a caste perspective. I figure he is probably going to be typical. I don't recall his NY teams being any different in their composition. From looking around the archives here it looks like it got worse in NY under Fassel's reign."

    Actually, Fassel can say something no other coach in the past 15 seasons can say....he started a white CB to cover the other teams' #1 WRs for more than one game.

    One caste-busting player (Sehorn) isnt saying much, and doesnt make up for an otherwise all-black defense (including backups).

    Fassel seemed to love white O-lineman, TEs, and QBs. You might think these positions are "typical," and "normal" for a team to have all white starters at these spots....but the Redskins need all the white starters they can get. This team has almost nobody to root for besides Cooley (Pro-Bowl TE) and Daughty (who played just a well as the now Sainted Sean Taylor).
     
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    I agree. Any move in the right direction would be good in DC.
     
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    The Giants had Sehorn and Sean Bennett at the same time, who were the only white CB and white RB in the league, while Fassel was coach. Bennett in particular was a surprise high draft pick after going the typical Caste route in college. It's highly unlikely he would have been drafted at all had the Giants not taken him.


    The Giants for a season or two were the most white friendly team in the league, then quickly reversed course under Fassel, ala the Titans the past few years. I don't know how much that reflected Fassel, or the GM and owner. The late Wellington Mara was a Pat Buchanan supporter though that didn't seem to make the Giants any different than any other team other than for that brief period. Overall theyhave consistently been one of those white QB white o-line black just about everywhere else teams ever since Bill Parcells coached them.
     
  15. Matt_Bowen_Fan

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    And Jim Zorn gets the nod.
     
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    Zorn threw to Steve Largent and I remember himhanded the ball to a melanin-challenged running back a few times. Any chance he'll be any different than the typical caste coach?
     

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