Joe Calzaghe

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  1. speedster

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    Ithought I'd bring this post over here since we now have a new place for it.Now then,my rant is for Joe Calzaghe,whom a previous poster claims is a nothing and hasn't fought anybody.Joe has beaten former world champs such as Chris Eubank,Robin Reid,Richie Woodhall and Charles Brewer.Calzaghe's beating of Byron Mitchell came right after Mitchell lost his tin to Sven Ottke in a close disputed split decision.Now understand this Joe Calzaghe stopped Byron Mitchell in 2 round,while Ottke needed a full 12 rounds to get a hometown victory over Mitchell.Can you see why Sven totally avoided Calzaghe?Granted Joe didn't look great against Kabary Salem,but he still won an easy decision.Look out for Joe Calzaghe in 2005,brother.
     
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  3. dkr77

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    I would love to see Calzaghe matched up with Roy Jones jr. now. If you have followed sport news Jones was involved with the guy who was selling Barry Bonds his steroids and actually tested positive for the substance after a bout. Since that bust Jones has lost every fight. I think Calzaghe might take him now that he isn't juicing.
     
  4. Guest

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    Joe C pulled out of the match with TBA . Cant blame him even though TBA is a Journeyman he could still be dangerous for slappy Joe .
     
  5. Sean

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    Probably none of these p4p greats want to fight him.
     
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    [​IMG][​IMG]Just a few months ago Joe pulled out of a match with Glencoffe Johnson . Joe also pulled out of matches with Hopkins and RJJ and failed to unify his divisions.





    Joe will TALK about making great matches but will never actually make them. Instead he will just beat some bum and keep his ''undefeated'' record.
     
  7. Gary

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    He will TALK about making great matches but will never actually make them.Instead he will just beat some bum and keep his "undefeated'record.I thought we were talking about Joey Calzaghe sounds more like Roy Jones!!!
     
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    No Jones has actually fought Good to Great fighters.


    Hopkins Griffin Toney Harding McCallum are a hundred times better then anybody Joe has ever fought.


    Oops did i make you look like an ignorant fool again ?
     
  9. Gary

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    Not at all anyone with any real sense knows Jones has been boxing longer so of course he will have had more fights then Joey.Any fool can see that except you of course.Anyone who follows my posts can see I know boxing-in your heart you'll have to admit it.Now go eat some watermelon.
     
  10. kevin

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    calzaghe would destroy ottke and harding. i also believe he could beat johnson at 160. johnson i a guy who had alot more sucess at light heavy
     
  11. Guest

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    a petty racial remark it would be fun if you actually had the guts to say that to someone's face.


    And Joe sabotaged any big fight that could have been made he has been WBO champ for years and he has NEVER made any seriuos attem,pt to unify. Anybody who has followed boxing would know that except you offcourse.
     
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    Not as bad as the remarks you've been making. It seems that on every post you want to glorify the black athlete. Well, Jones is shot. He's lost two straight to not-that-grat fights. Calzaghe is at leasy still undefeated. True, he's not fought all-time greats, but neither did Jones. RJJ was the epitom of overhyped!
     
  13. Gary

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    Hey Clown -don't talk tough over your keyboard you might scare yourself-how about Bryd fighting Vitali to have one real heavyweight Champion.
     
  14. speedster

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    Why don't you read the original post,Godking?Joe wanted to fight Ottke but it just did nothappen through no fault of Joe's.Ottke didn't want to fight him.Is that your criteria for being a good fighter,unifiying championships?Boxing is so political that unifiying two titles is difficult enough,but to unify all four?Besides as mentioned earlier,Calzaghe had already beaten some really good fighters already.Joe Calzaghe is now scheduled to fight in March.His opposition is rumoured to be the Godking!!![​IMG]
     
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    Hopkins Toney Hill fighters who will make it to the hall of fame when they retire that three all time greats that RJJ fought and beat ad to that Griffin Harding Tarver 1st time Lucas Gonzalez good fighters and you see the difference between RJJ and Slappy Joe.


    Yes RJJ is shot now that happens when you destroy a 200 body by going down to LHW and not losing fat but muscle. At least RJJ moved up more then we can say for slappy Joe .
     
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    No you are mistaken im not a journeyman boxer just coming to collect a paycheck . Therefor i am clearly not an opponent Slappy Joe's management would choose.


    Most modern greats have unified their divisions


    Tzyu Hopkins RJJ DLH Trinidad the ones that haven't have either moved up to other divisions or are content to simply defend their portion of the title against bums.


    Joe C is content to defend his title against bums but lately the bums are starting to get a little to strong for him. When you cant beat the bums your supposed to beat you know your a piece of crap.
     
  17. speedster

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    Name me one supposed bum that pushed Calzaghe to the limit,or as you put it beat it him.And don't say Kabary Salem because Joe ended up winning that fight handily.
     
  18. Sean

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    Yeah, it was easier for RJJ to steroid up then to steroid down. He never weighed 200. He lost 18 pounds to fight tarver. It was almost a full year between his last victory (which he weighed 175) and his loss. Obvously the weight was not the problem. He just finally "stepped up" a little, and got beat by one of Ottke victims. Ottke wouldnt fight Joe Calzaghe. RJJ wasnt hurt by losing the weight, because he beat Tarver first. Next fight, he weighed the same, and got belted out in 2!


    Calzaghe has already beaten Mitchell, Brewer, Veit in 1,Sheika, Reid, and Eubank. Who do ou want him to fight?
     
  19. dkr77

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    RJJ had the luxury of being in the middleweight division when it was weak. There were no Marvin Haglers, Doug Dewitt, Hearns, Cyz or Hiltons. On top of that I believe he was using HGH or steroids like Bonds was. Everyone complains about the heavyweight division being bad, which I think is bulls$%T. The true talent starved division is middleweight with a couple of exceptions.
     
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    Was Hopkins also a weak MW ? but truthfully RJJ does'nt deserve to be ranked high among the mws since he did'nt stay there for long. And yes the HW division is pretty bad if a bum like Ruiz is a top 5 HW at the least then the division is in bad shape
     
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    Hopkins is one of the exceptions and he still isn't a great middleweight. And since when does being a bum keep these crooked ass boxing organizations from ranking a boxer higher then heshould be?
     
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    10 year reign 19 defenses P4P no1 and Hopkins is not a great MW ????
     
  23. dkr77

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    No, In my opinionhe's not. Name a great middleweight he has beat, and don't tell me DelaHoya. Hopkins ruled in a weak division. There were no Leonards, Haglers, Hearns etc. Hopkins would have been soundly beat by any of them and several had moved up from the welterweight division.
     
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    triniadad and glenn johnson he has beaten. i think taylor can beat him.
     
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    I agree. He's never fought a great middleweight.
     

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