James Traficant on Israel, America

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  1. Colonel_Reb

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    This is one of James Edwards' latest blogs. I don't know what everyone here thinks of the man, but please watch the video.




    From James Traficant:
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    "I believe that Israel has a powerful stranglehold on
    the American government. They control both members of the House "¦ and
    the Senate, they have us involved in wars of which we have little or no
    interest "¦ If they don't beat you at the polls, they'll put you in
    prison"¦. They're controlling much of our foreign policy, they're
    influencing much of our domestic policy."Â￾</blockquote>


    Watch it all here.Edited by: Colonel_Reb
     
  2. Deadlift

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    I saw that interview on TV.

    When Greta asked, "are you an anti-Semite?"... Traficant would of been wise to say, "Do you deny the existence of Jewish Supremacism? We always hear the MSM lamenting about so-called White Supremacism. Why is Jewish Supremacism not only acceptable, but a verboten subject matter? It's alright for Jews to pursue their perceived group interests, but not alright for the goy to do the same?"

    Greta would have spazzed...

    David Duke was brilliant to title one of his books, "Jewish Supremacism!" It was smart, but also very accurate.
     
  3. Bronk

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    I liked James Traficant (a former University of Pittsburgh QB by the way) before his arrest because, instead of being a typically socialist Rust Belt Democrat, he was more of a blue collar, lunch pail and steel-toe boot populist; closer to Pat Buchanan than Teddy Kennedy.

    ANY one who oppses Israel ANY time will be pushed out to the margins with the single charge of anti-semite. You can actually question some black motives in American politics but not Israel's.
     
  4. DWFan

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    Good way to put it. Traficant is cool in my book.
     
  5. Kaptain

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    Traficant was put in jail on bogus charges all because he offended the Jews. About 8 years ago Traficant was the only person that dared to stand up to Israel and demand that they let go of an innocent American citizen falsely accused of being Ivan the Terrible. Of course, like so many holohoax stories it turned out to be just another fairy tail. He warned Israel that they might lose their 15 billion plus in American aid. That really peeved the Zionists and in less than a year Traficant was behind bars. Could you imagine in our current politically corrupt culture that a simple honest man like Traficant is the one who gets put behind bars? What a joke. The system needs to be violently overthrown and replaced - any effort to change it from within will result in marginalizing, targeting, imprisonment, and eventually death. We won't be able to vote our way out of this mess.
     
  6. jaxvid

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    You're right.
     
  7. DWFan

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    Seconded. Great analysis as usual, KP.
     
  8. Observer

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    What a keen, but devastating, observation. Wow, but not a happy wow.I would like to refute this, but I'm not sure that I can. In any case, this needs to be discussed somehow, somewhere.

    My only other comment at this time would be: why would the organizational effort that is needed for a violent overthrow have any better chance at avoiding "marginalizing, targeting, imprisonment, and eventually death" than that of a more peacable means? In Augustine's Just War theory, there had to be at least a reasonable hope of success for a person or group to take up arms. Otherwise, it is simply terrorism.
     
  9. DixieDestroyer

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    KP, I totally understand your frusturation sir. However, a word of warning...that combination of words "violent overthrow" smacks of agent provacatuer rhetoric. ***NOT saying that's what you are/doing [​IMG] , just trying to enlighten my CF breathren. For example, supposed WN "hero" (turned FBI informant) Hal Turner supposedly used to make "calls to arms" to incite his listeners/followers (by design). That's just an fyi, as we need to be careful what we say. The Orwellians are just looking for anything to target (to "justify" expansion of the growing police state). We need to be cautious.Edited by: DixieDestroyer
     
  10. screamingeagle

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    Wasn't Ivan the Terrible acquited by an Isreali court? Shouldn't that count for something.
    The Zionists have to stop focusing on the holocaust of WW II. Stop living in the past. The younest guards are in their 80's if still alive. They should focus on what is important, defending Isreal from Moslem invaders.
     
  11. Kaptain

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    I'm well aware that agent provacatuers existed long before it became an internet phenomenon within this last year. I also know that provacatuers accuse others of being provacatuers. Right now there are so many accusations going around nobody really knows who to believe anymore. Their strategy is working. I just believe and write about the truth as I know it. I use common sense and truth as my guide.

    Never be afraid to say the truth. I'm sure we're are already on some kind of watch lists. I'm sure we have agents posting on CF right now. If they could justify shutting us down or targeting us for merrily discussing the possibility of a "violent overthow", then they wouldn't need to have a "justification" - they would already own us.

    The provacatuer subject is more about certain folks posing as WNs to distract or discredit the movement on ideological grounds than it is about actually "provoking" violence. They are the ultimate ideological matadors; always angering the dumb bulls only to make them charge at an thin piece of cloth - missing the real target oh so closely every time.

    The other strategy is to mix the truth with alien theories or other crazy irrelavent crap. If someone denies the holocaust, but spends a lot of time talking about aliens = provacatuer/agent. Don't fall for the trap. Find the ideological cracks. Decide for yourself what is true. Above all use common sense.

    On to the talk of a future violent overthrow of the currently corrupt government. The imprisonment of Traficant is pretty much proof that voting won't work. I'll still do it of course, but the enemy is not going to just step aside because of the result of vote by the proletariat. We are a long way from a real overthrow. In fact, it may never happen. Many peoples have lived as oppessed slaves for hundreds perhaps even thousands of years. We may have been turned into that type of people. No amount of voting, pseudo-democracy, marching, and sign waving can save a generally complicit, and/or scared, and/or ignorant population.
     
  12. DixieDestroyer

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    KP, good points and clarification. You have a solid understanding of the provacatuer SOP. Again, I wasn't implying/anything towards you partner, just helping spread knowledge (as yourself) amongst the CF breathren. [​IMG]

    I agree that the government has been largely usurped by the Globalist Elite (via their puppets). You are correct on the sheeple of society. However, there's still a few solid folks on "Crapitol sHill" like Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Virgil Goode, Tom Tancredo, etc. While I'm losing much faith, I still think there's a shred of hope for our fleeting Republic. IMHO, the key is educating those with ears to hear/minds to learn. I'm not necessarily an optimist, but I think we owe it to our forefathers and children to make a last stand for our Constitutional Republic. Edited by: DixieDestroyer
     
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    DD, I'm not giving up on the conventional way of change either. I just doubt that if any real conventional changer were to occur, say through a massive change in voting pattern, the criminals would not allow it to happen. Voter fraud, assasinations, even more information control, and convoluted reasons for martial law would be the enemies response. In the face of that, the end result would either be capitulation of the populous or the exact opposite. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
     
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    Nice to see two of my favorite posters on the same page concerning this subject. I agree, we won't be able to vote our way out of this mess. We couldn't do it fifty years ago, and since then the government has done everything in it's power to bolster the numbers of blacks and minorities. The few victories we had were overturned anyway by the courts.

    Can't forget the massive influx of Mexicans and Latin Americans who produce niños at alarming rates - all on our dime. Dr. McDonald reveals why that was done and who profits from such subterfuge.

    Now what?
     
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    Who is Dr. McDonald?
     
  16. Bart

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    Sorry, misspelled his name.

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/

    Kevin MacDonald is Professor of Psychology at California State Universityâ€"Long Beach. After receiving a Masters degree in evolutionary biology, he received a Ph. D. in Biobehavioral Sciences, both at the University of Connecticut. Since assuming his position at California State Universityâ€"Long Beach, his research has focused on developing evolutionary perspectives on culture, developmental psychology and personality theory, the origins and maintenance of monogamous marriage in Western Europe, and ethnic relations (group evolutionary strategies). He is the author of more than 100 scholarly papers and reviews...

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Blog.htm#Kevin_MacDonald_Articles_on_Vdare:_

    His articles are enlghtening.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/Edited by: Bart
     
  17. Electric Slide

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    To KP, DD and others:

    Gentlemen, I know there is not a lot of hope and optimism in this great community about the future of our society. I'm not saying there's any good reason for it either. I do though think we owe it to ourselves to look at a little bit of history. One thing, out of infinite lessons history offers, that we have learned is to "expect the unexpected." Literally, the whole world can change on a dime. I saw a post earlier pointing out the fall of East Germany. A week before it happened, nobody in the media legitimately recognized the possibility. Many although hopeful it would happen, had no reason to be optimistic in that situation. Even though the collapse appeared to be sudden, there were more "conventional" and behind-the-scenes undermining of the Soviet control in Germany. Then all of a sudden it came apart, a surprise even to KGB members assigned to EG like Vladimir Putin. The fall of the entire USSR provides a similar lesson.

    After the first World War, dubbed "The war to end all wars," people thought a huge war would usher in world-wide and permanent peace [​IMG] . Nobody thought a mere couple decades later the whole process would happen again.

    So I think it's important that if we want this caste system to change, that we don't leave it up to others but that we leave it up to ourselves. We can literally change the world. Somehow we found out about this site. We each need to find two more people to post on this site, as well as doing our best to create hype for good white players by posting on the net, as well as in other mainstream areas such as sports bars and parties, and around the water cooler on Monday and Tuesday mornings (or wherever people congregate at work). The problem with just "not watching the games," not watching TV at all, and boycotting the NFL is that nobody knows you are doing it, and you efectively remove yourself from the sphere of influence. It's like the eco nuts who "put their money where their mouth is" and live in a shack out in the woods and minimize their "carbon footprint." Society doesn't know their out there doing it, so they can't make their point!

    We need to increase ours presence in the sphere of influence. We need people from this site to get into academic circles (Col. Reb for example), and get into alternative media (Don), as well as mainstream media (as someone here noted they work for a TV station). This is exactly what liberals did to accomplish their goals, so we need to take a page out of their book. We all don't need to be so obvious with our views out in public, because look at the people in the media now. Very few of them actually say "there should be fewer whites in the NFL because they are not as good of athletes." They say things like "this team needs more speed." They call mostly white teams "slow," and "lacking great athletes." So that's the criticism we need to bring up about Florida State "they don't do a good job recruiting, they need to get some better talent like BYU has." That's essentially what happened when USC beat Alabama back in the day when Alabama was segregated and USC was not. The next year Alabama got a wave of blacks. In addition to academia and the media, we need people to go to law school, become legal council, get on school boards and city councils, and very importantly COACHING, which I know a number of members do or have done in the past.

    I don't expect it to happen, but I would not doubt it's possible that one year everything could seemingly change where in the NFL every single starting QB was white, you had nearly half the teams with white RBs, and the majority of the WRs and defense where white. It would all appear as sudden, but if we got enough of our influence out there it could happen, much like crazier and more unexpected things have happened in history.

    The final point I want to make is that we should look at history and realize all the tragedies and catastraphies that have occured, where it seemed like our society and civilization itself were doomed. Just look at the black plague that nearly wiped out Europe, and just as easily could have if the virus were a little worse or there was less immunity to it. What about Rome callapsing, or the epic wars that European nations faught against each other. Or to America in the Civil War where two groups of nearly identical Americans had to slaughter each other because they grew up on different sides of an arbitrary line. Or the dust bowl and the great depression in the 1930s. Sometimes we have to be thankful that we have made it this far, and realize that we don't have it so bad. This challenge, daunting as it may be, is nothing compared to other things which nearly wiped us out. Keep moving forward and know that our goals are achievable! Edited by: Electric Slide
     
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    Lots of solid points, Electric Slide. The one about the uselessness of "one-man boycotts" of the NFL is very well put. To be aware of what's going on in a time of mass deception is a gift, something to always appreciate and try to spread to others who are also capable of realizing the gift. It's an enlightened, organized, and relentlessly determined minority that always moves history, not the masses, who only want and deserve good leadership but who are also easily exploited and degradedwhen they don't have it.
     
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    Helluva post Electric Slide.
     
  20. Colonel_Reb

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    Agreed, nice post Electric.
     
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    Good stuff ES. I've told a few of my buddies about CF, and many said they've check it out. One of my best pals is a DWF, and still doesn't believe there's a caste system, the control of Zionism, etc.With this example we need to educate those with minds to learn & pass over those too sheeplized to grasp this knowledge.
     
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    I also agree, great post. Nice to read some positives, it's easy to get fatigued from fighting what seems like a losing battle. I remember when I was a kid the general conscences was that Communism was the wave of the future. I read that Henry Kissinger and others felt it was only a matter of time before Communism swept the world as it seemed at that time to be springing up everywhere, Asia, Africa, South America, it was only a matter of time, they reasoned before it was everywhere.

    But look what happened. Hardline communism is dead, the softer version is still a poison and it IS everywhere, but the general idea has been discredited in a couple of generations. It's good to look at the long view but it sure sucks having to live through the tough times.
     
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    <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8232340.stm" target="_blank">
    Details are begining to emerge of how the recent attack on Gaza by the Israeli army was done in the form of a holy war. It sounds a biy like a jihad when you read the article, but without the promise of the virgins waiting for you in heaven. I guess that would be pointless as there is practically no chance of losing your life in the Israeli army.
    From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8232340.stm</A>

    "One soldier, said there was wall-to-wall religious rhetoric in the base, the barracks and on the battlefield. As soon as soldiers signed for their rifles, he said, they were given a book of psalms. And, as his company headed into Gaza, he told me, they were flanked by a civilian rabbi on one side and a military rabbi on the other."


    "Before his unit went into Gaza, Rabbi Kaufman said their commander told him to blow the ram's horn: "Like (biblical) Joshua when he conquered the land of Israel. It makes the war holier." Rabbis handed out hundreds of religious pamphlets during the Gaza war".
     
  24. Electric Slide

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    While I know that views differ on Israel, I don't respect or appreciate that country, and I absolutely abhor Zionism and hopes it is discredited with all due expediency. At the same time I do not cheer for or support Palistinians, and their advocates here in the U.S. are the same left-wing bunch that support Obama, big government, and "hate crime" legislation.

    That being said, I am absolutely sickened by the description of that incursion. I absolutley don't understand why conservatives, libertarians, and Christians support this nation, when you know dang well they don't support us. What's absolutely insane is that if you don't support "Zionism," which by definition is a thing that excludes other religions and races, then YOU are a racist/"anti-semite" according to the ADL and other groups!!!

    If people want to be Jewish that's fine, and if Israel wants to exist that's okay. You do your thing and I'll do mine But we should not support policies which by definition are against us! Benjamin Netanyahou even said in front of the UN recently that Israel is the state for the "Jewish people" i.e., not someone like me! And it's absolutely criminal that we spend any tax money or American lives on ANY Middle-Eastern nation. If Israel is such a great and holy place, and it is truly the "chosen land" for the "chosen people," then let God defend the "Israelites." Just saying, we don't need to be supplying bombs, guns, and planes for Israel to use against their neighbors, nor should we be involved in any Mid-East dispute. We have our own dang oil, natural gas, coal we don't need theirs if that's why we're involved. Otherwise we should just STFO of that part of the world!
     
  25. DixieDestroyer

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    ES, we do indeed need to pull up stakes in the middle east...including the Zionists & Muhammedans. We need to end the incessant foreign entanglements & foreign funding (via taxpayer (fiat) dollars).
     

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