J. J. Watt

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  1. Don Wassall

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    Watt's been a beast in training camp from everything I've read. Houston's defense may be a lot of fun to watch this season.

    J.J. Watt

    I think the ultimate upside for the Texans defensive end is to win Defensive Rookie of the Year. He's a perfect fit in Wade Phillips defense. Watt's having no trouble grasping the Texans playbook and is having an amazing training camp and playing great in the preseason.

    Watt's high motor and intensity fits in perfectly with DeMeco Ryans, Mario Williams, Brian Cushing and the veterans on defense. In talking to Watt on the SiriusXM Blitz on Monday, he totally gets and appreciates the sense of urgency to the Texans this season.

    He plays and acts like a vet. He'll register sacks, stop the run and do things that won't even show up in the box score.

    Get out in front of it with J.J. Watt for Rookie of the Year.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Bob-Sanders-JJ-Watt-Matt-Flynn-Sizzle-Fizzle-082511
     
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    J.J. has looked good out there so far.
     
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    Dallas must be kicking themselves for taking Tyron Smith #9 and not J.J. WATT!

    Then, Gabbert went #10 to JAX and Watt #11.
     
  4. backrow

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    from rw:

    J.J. Watt "hit the proverbial rookie wall and destroyed it" in the Texans' two playoff games, according to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle.

    Watt earned well-deserved kudos for his athletic, game-changing pick-six in the win over the Bengals. He was even better at Baltimore, exploding for 12 tackles, 2.5 sacks, three tackles for loss and three QB hurries. Watt earned the moniker "The Milkman" from teammates because he always delivers. Houston's "Bulls on Parade" defense may have more young talent than any in the NFL.
     
  5. Van_Slyke_CF

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    It was a lot of fun watching J.J. Watt and the other white standouts for the Texans on "D" this year. Let's hope for even better next year.
     
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    I really like the "Bulls on Parade" nickname as most of the bulls are White. :thumb:
     
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    and "the milkman" is the whitest! (seeing how he's the biggest, stands to reason haha)
     
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    The "milkman"? Because he always delivers or because milk is white? How many guys in the NFL know what a milkman really is?

    Red Berenson, coach of the Michigan Wolverines hockey team was on the radio the other day and he told a story of how he was teaching his players not to telegraph their moves, then it occurred to him that maybe none of his players knew what a telegram was so he asked them and no one knew, the closest one said he thought it was some kind of old fashioned phone.

    Whenever I hear dated references used in the media I figure it's some old fart sportswriter not the actual players using the reference and he's just spicing up the story for the old timers that still get their news in print.
     
  9. backrow

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    haha, right on Jax, i was thinking the same, although Houston are a pretty white team it would be silly of Cushing for instance to call him that based on his skin color.
     
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    If it were a reference to his propensity to deliver, wouldn't he be the "mailman" or the "pizza guy". When the brothers give you a nickname with a "White" reference, it is there way of saying that you are unusually good, for a White guy.
     
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    Coach Gary Kubiak said LE J.J. Watt has "had two outings as good as you can possibly have."

    Watt has emerged as one of the best defensive players in the league. He's backed up last year's season-ending breakout by posting three sacks, five pass deflections and eight tackles through the first two games of this year. The Broncos are going to have their hands full with this Texans defense on Sunday.


    Source: Houston Chronicle

    :smile:

     
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    J.J. Watt is my favorite for DPOY. His athleticism and disruptive abilities are jaw-dropping. I enjoy watching the Texans on defense and usually I only watch him - he impresses every snap it seems. On an every down basis he is a better defender than Clay Matthews, IMO.

    He is currently 2nd in the NFL at 5.5 sacks, .5 behind Matthews (though Matthews has done this in only 2 games).

    I haven't been able to post recently but I thought I'd pass this article along and comment on a player who's performance alone should brighten this season considerably.

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...s-sacks-stats-week-4-fantasy-football-defense
     
  14. backrow

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    in the light of Leroy Harris' comments on Watt (other than those two plays, i shut him down...) i'd like to bring a little analysis by yahoo sports to your attention:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...r-leroy-harris-thinks-j-j-213249830--nfl.html

    [h=1]The All-22: No matter what Leroy Harris thinks, J.J. Watt is indeed something special[/h][​IMG]

    By Doug Farrar | Shutdown Corner – 13 hours ago






    [​IMG]J.J. Watt is doing this to an historic degree. (Getty Images)
    You hear from time to time that players believe the better team lost a game -- usually, it's the players on the losing teams providing that analysis. And once in a while, you'll hear a player claim that he wasn't completely outmatched by an opponent, even though the stat sheets and game tape tell very different stories.
    So it was with Tennessee Titans guard Leroy Harris, who said after Tennessee's 38-14 Sunday loss to the Houston Texans that Texans defensive end J.J. Watt, who seems to be the runaway choice for NFL Defensive Player of the Year right now, isn't as good as people think he is -- despite the fact that Watt got two sacks in the game.
    "[Watt] is not anything special," Harris said, per John McClain of the Houston Chronicle. "He's just persistent at what he does. And if you use bad technique, he'll exploit. I locked him down most the game except those two plays."
    Well, saying that you dealt with a guy except for the two times he took down your quarterback is quite the "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" rationale. Since I hadn't had time to zero in on Watt's effort against Tennessee, I took Harris' boast as incentive to turn on the NFL Game Rewind broadcast feed and take a look at every snap Watt played. Per the official gamebook, Watt was on the field for 43 of the Texans' 62 defensive snaps, because the game was out of hand in Houston's favor in the fourth quarter, and defensive coordinator Wade Phillips subbed out a lot of his starters at that point.
    And from what I saw, the only time Harris could handle Watt on a consistent basis was when Watt wasn't on the field. Watt wound up with two quarterback sacks and two more quarterback hits, and many more times when he simply collapsed the pocket. There's also the fact that when Watt was in the game, he wasn't always over Harris -- he moved around a lot, and he was the problem of former Pro Bowler and possible future Hall of Famer Steve Hutchinson just as much.
    Put simply, this was a dominant effort from Watt's first play to his last -- I counted one example of Harris absolutely pancaking Watt -- of Harris actually winning the battle. It was an object lesson for those who don't know just why Watt has silly stats through the first four games -- 30 tackles, 7½ sacks, 10 tackles for loss, 10 QB hurries and five pass deflections. He is the first defensive player since Kevin Greene in 1998 to amass at least 1 1/2 sacks per game through the first four games of the season. Factor in that he's playing inside the tackles most of the time, and what Watt's doing is even more special.
    On the first-quarter sack credited to defensive back Glover Quin that took Titans starting quarterback Jake Locker out of the game with a shoulder injury, Watt almost got there as well after he punked Hutchinson with a rip move and simply got around the before Hutchinson could react.
    [​IMG]That's Watt on right guard Steve Hutchinson, simply beating him with power. (NFL.com)
    As far as winning the physical battle, there was the Watt tackle of Titans running back Chris Johnson on the first play of the second quarter. Right tackle David Stewart got his hands on Watt, who disengaged and closed on Johnson with blinding speed for a man his size.
    [​IMG]Watt closes in on Chris Johnson. Stewart (76) is about five yards behind. That's fast. (NFL.com)
    On Watt's first sack, he simply ran around Harris -- it's possible that Harris was waiting for help from Stewart (who had to block outside linebacker Brooks Reed and got busted for holding in the play), but it's pretty clear that Harris had no response to Watt's speed.
    [​IMG]Watt wins the pure speed battle against Leroy Harris... (NFL.com)
    The second sack was actually a pretty good example of the technique Watt has -- he countered Harris by rolling to his outside shoulder, gave him a swim move, and that was that.
    [​IMG]...and wraps up his day with an upper-body strength exhibition. (NFL.com)
    We joke about concussion testing, and we shouldn't -- not near enough of it happens at any level of football, and that is a serious matter. But Harris' comments about Watt after the game might lead one to believe that at some point, he got hit in the head during that game. After watching the tape, the only sensible conclusion one can come to is that J.J. Watt is almost impossible to block consistently -- no matter who he's facing.

     
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    Rex Ryan says his brother pushed the Cowboys to draft J.J. Watt instead: A Jerry Jones fail?



    [​IMG] By Chris Baldwin
    10.03.12 | 02:58 pm
    If Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan had his way in the 2011 NFL Draft, things would look a lot different for both Jerry Jones' franchise and the Houston Texans today.
    For Ryan pushed the Cowboys to draft J.J. Watt with the ninth pick in the draft, two spots before the Texans nabbed the game-changing force. New York Jets coach Rex Ryan — Rob's brother — revealed that little inside nugget on a call with five Houston reporters, including CultureMap, Wednesday afternoon.

    "I know my brother was wanting (Watt) in Dallas," Rex Ryan said. "He lost out in that battle. They took that tackle instead. We kept saying, 'You got to get this kid, you got to get this kid.' And sure enough, Houston ends up with him."
    And the rest, as they say, . . . is dominance.

    With Watt emerging as the Defensive Player of the Year favorite, the Texans are 4-0 and widely considered the best team in the NFL. As for the Cowboys . . . well, no one is making plans to see them in New Orleans on Feb. 3. Dallas is a 2-2 team coming off a blowout Monday night home loss to the Chicago Bears and Rob Ryan's defense (while improved from 2011) isn't scaring anyone.
    Regrets, Jerry's had a few
    Instead of taking Watt in that 2011 draft — the first draft for both Rob Ryan and the Texans' Wade Phillips as defensive coordinators with the teams — Cowboys owner Jerry Jones endorsed picking offensive tackle Tyron Smith, who has been anything but dominant early in his career. In fact, Smith is mostly known for the penalties he keeps racking up.
    Now, Watt was hardly considered a can't-miss future star at the time. On draft night, I wrote that the Texans made a mistake in not taking defensive tackle Nick Fairley, who'd been dominant in the biggest games at Auburn, instead. And nine other teams passed on Watt besides the Cowboys, allowing Phillips and Texans general manager Rick Smith to pounce.
    But Rex Ryan says that he and his brother had a feeling about the "fanatical effort" kid from Wisconsin. And now, Rex Ryan isn't sure that even Carolina quarterback Cam Newton would be drafted ahead of Watt if the 2011 NFL Draft was redone today.

    "(Watt) might be the first overall pick if you’re having that draft all over again," Ryan said. "Certainly, he makes a huge difference and an impact. Really, as a defensive coach all your life, it’s one of those rare guys that comes along once in a long time."
    And now, Rex Ryan isn't sure that even Carolina quarterback Cam Newton would be drafted ahead of Watt if the 2011 NFL Draft was done all over again.

    Ryan went on to compare Watt to Hall of Fame defensive end Dan Hampton, who starred on a 1985 Chicago Bears defense that's regarded by many as the best NFL defense of all time.

    It's clear that Rex Ryan feels like his brother should have that type of force at his disposal in Dallas. Of course, Watt is Rex's worry this week — with the Jets set to host the Texans in a Monday Night Football showcase in northern New Jersey.

    This defensive guru — who saw his own defense absolutely obliterated in a 34-0 home loss to San Francisco in Week Four — cannot help but appreciate what Watt is doing through four games though. When Rex Ryan talks about J.J. Watt there is more admiration than dread in his voice.

    "Obviously, J.J. Watt, if you have a vote for Defensive Player of the Year how do you not give it to that young man?" Ryan asked. "Seven and a half sacks already, 10 hits on the quarterback, 10 tackles for loss, six (passes broken up), two for interceptions . . ."

    Yes, an opposing NFL coach just reeled off Watt's stats like he's a fawning fan looking at the back of a sports card. J.J. Watt can do that to people who love defense.

    "He’s really struggling out there is what it looks like to me," Ryan deadpanned.

    It's not hard to picture Rob Ryan lamenting to his brother about the game changer that got away. They took that tackle instead. Jerry Jones didn't listen to his defensive coordinator. Rick Smith listened to his (and his own scouting). This is one of those moments in sports that defines franchises even if no one realizes it at the time.
    The Texans and Cowboys both may never be the same again.
     
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    I think we can use JJ Watt as yet another case study to further prove how utterly corrupt the caste system is. Maybe a quick home page article would do the trick. I looked up some info on him, and it looks like coming out of HS, he was only rated as a 2-star prospect by Rivals.com:

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/centralmichigan/football/recruiting/player-JJ-Watt-54719

    That of course means no major college program would touch him, so he ended up at Central Michigan for one year playing as a TE, and then dropped out. According to his wikipedia entry, he was delivering pizzas, but then came to his senses, decided to enroll at Wisconson, and the rest is history.

    How many dozens and dozens more JJ Watts must be out there, ignored and improperly ranked/rated by college coaches and recruiting services? In Watt's case, it's almost a minor miracle how things have turned out, but for all others, they either go to small schools never to be heard from again, or drop out of football all-together. In the meantime, the NFL keeps drafting one SEC sumo after another, year after year, virtually all of whom turn out to be busts.

    Those DWFs who watch Watt could certainly use a small dose of critical thinking skills. In a country with 200 million White people (65% of the overall population), how come there aren't a few more like him? Shouldn't each NFL team have at least 1-2 White starting DLs? As Thrashen pointed out in the main thread, over last half decade, those few who are allowed to play have been amongst the best in the league. It's mathematically impossible, when you consider the sample size, that there aren't more White players of every position in the NFL, especially all those forbidden ones on both defense and offense. But it's too bad the citizenry is hopeless brainwashed to even contemplate such ways of thinking.
     
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    I hope Watt has a Wes Welker like impact for defensive linemen. With people seeing how dominant Watt has become I think teams will be a little more open minded.

    Welker as we all know was the catalyst for the small uptick in white WRs the past 5 or 6 years. For better or worse every single white WR was compared to Welker but in the end guys like Amendola, Hartline and Nelson have become very good WRs.
     
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    In my opinion JJ Watt is the best defensive player in football. He's going to be around a long time and his presence is going to go a long way toward breaking the racist and false stereotype that White people aren't good athletes.
     
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  21. Extra Point

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    Though JJ Watt is getting some national attention he should be getting even more. Watt is a sports superstar. He should be getting as much attention as any black player in sports.

    The only players with more impact in the league are upper echelon quarterbacks.

    One angle that can be used to promote Watt is his last name. References can be made to his megawatt smile. :wink: He can be called an electrifying player. He can be said to be powering the defense. He can be said to be playing lights out :lightbulb: He can be said to be shocking the league. He can be said to have a bright future.

    We should use stuff as this on other sites to raise awareness of the athleticism of a white player. :thumbsup:
     
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    Here are some more.

    Watt has pulled the plug on the opposing offense.

    Watt is lighting it up.

    Watt has provided a spark for his team.

    Watt has put the quarterback's lights out.

    JJ Watt's meter is on unlimited.

    When JJ Watt is on the field he causes a power outage for the other team.

    JJ Watt strikes like a lightning bolt.
     
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    Congrats J.J. Watt on being the 2012 Defensive Player of the Year! Looking forward to your first Subway commercial...
     
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    Haha good one. Maybe Cousins or Jimmy Johns can scoop him up before cultmax subway does
     
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    Looks like JJ will be releasing his new shoe soon!! MegaWatt

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