Italian Serie A 2015-16

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  1. ThePhilosopher

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    Higuain got another brace in Napoli's 3-2 loss to Bologna....if only Higuain had better teammates:eek:hwell:
     
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    losing these kind of matches, it doesn't allow you to win the title usually, too bad since napoli has win against the big teams
    koulibaly, napoli's black defender, was horrible in this match

    http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/serie-a/napoli/player-ratings-bologna-higuain/

     
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    I find it ironic that the best defensive school in the World is importing Black defenders. You mentioned Koulibaly, but the same could be said about Roma's "German" black defender Rudiger who is doing horrible this season and going from mistake to mistake. However if you dare criticize these Black clowns, you can get fired, like it happened to Stefano Eranio (ex Milan and Genoa player) who was a commenter for the Swiss-Italian TV channel and so much as uttered a critique of Rudiger during Leverkusen-Roma 4:4 CL match:
    “Black players in the defensive line often make these mistakes because they’re not concentrated. They are powerful physically, but when it is time to think … they often make this type of error.â€￾
    Well Eranio - You're fired!

    http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/ita...-eranio-fired-over-racist-comments-on-tv.html
     
  4. ThePhilosopher

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    Wow!!!Finally someone said it on Live TV.I hope everyone in Italy saw it on air:icon_cool:
     
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    A comical case in the Genoa-Bologna game (0-1) last Saturday. Bologna's black Guinean player Amadou Diawara appearenntly provoked Genoa fans by doing "gorilla gestures" towards them and got red-carded because of that. This happened after Bologna's Luca Rossettini scored the only goal of the game in the 91st minute.

    http://us.soccerway.com/news/2015/December/13/diawara-frustrated-by-dismissal-for-responding-to-alleged-racist-abuse/n701942/
    http://www.football-italia.net/77044/diawara-i-replied-racists

    "I just mimed gorilla gestures as a reaction to the noises I heard come from some of the fans behind [the] goal."
    "It was in no way a vulgar or offensive gesture, but a simple answer to what I considered a lack of respect towards me."


    Now Diawara is contesting this red card saying Genoa fans were "racist" towards him during the game. As these things go, this decision will probably be revoked and he won't be disqualified for the next couple of games. I believe it's just the usual Black player idiotic swagger after the goal was scored and desire to humiliate the adversaries. But, on the other side, I would agree with Diawaras complaint - how can someone get a red card for being what he is?


    Anyway, Chelsea and Man City have apparently offered 20M Euros (14.5M Pounds) for this clown and Bologna turned the offer down!
    This for a (supposedly) 18 year old player whose main achievements are playing 16 games in a relegation-zone serie A team and having 1 assist!
    I have to admit I never heard about this guy until now. EPL just loves these Blacks.

    http://www.football-italia.net/76910/city-chelsea-offer-diawara
    http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...ace-battle-with-manchester-city-a3135121.html

    [​IMG]
     
  6. ThePhilosopher

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    A lot happened this weekend in Serie A.

    Higuain got another brace in a 3-1 win for Napoli over Atalanta:clap2::

    https://streamable.com/41z8

    Now they just need to buy a good CB who can keep Koulibaly on the bench,and the title should be theirs....

    As Felipe Melo antics cost prime title contenders Inter three points in a 2-1 defeat to Lazio:

    https://streamable.com/41z8

    This brute of a mutt does this all the time and still keeps being picked up by the big Italian teams:mad2:.He's a liability if he's on your team.

    Finally,AC Milan have confirmed that they have re-signed Keving Price Boateng on a 6 month deal:pound:.
     
  7. frederic38

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    higuain's goals:

    http://www.gfycat.com/OptimisticFirstGenet

    http://www.gfycat.com/FrankEquatorialAustraliancattledog

    what a season :shocked:

    another player who is scoring a lot is the young dybala at juventus
     
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    What is the world coming to?



    Newcastle bid €25m for Koulibaly

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    http://www.football-italia.net/78104/newcastle-bid-%E2%82%AC25m-koulibaly
    

     
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    another mistake by koulibaly, this time against AC milan while napoli was leading 1-0
    he allowed juventus to stay in the lead

    https://streamable.com/f5am

    also it was kind of embarrassing how the french national team coach said that he was thinking about calling him for france while he already plays for senegal internationally
    it's hard to keep track of who is french and who is african nowadays
     
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    Wow!:cool::cool::cool:
    Its amazing how we always hear about any 17 year old black player who can kick a ball as the next big star,and yet we get to hear about players like Dybala only after they prove themselves.While he was at Palermo,no one outside of Italy/Argentina ever heard of him.And now he has already scored 18 goals this season,but I can bet that he will still get overshadowed by the useless thug like Pogba,for whom all the jews will place 100m bids in the summer.
     
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    he was in the thread for young white players on this site :cool::cool:
     
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    at inter milan kondogbia ( a total flop bought for 40 millions - 3rd biggest transfer ever for inter milan , and one of the best paid players of the club -) is being outplayed and progressively replaced by a croatian midfielder named brozovic who is the same age as pogba/kondogbia etc
    kondogbia has been very bad but it takes an excellent player to put a 40 millions transfer on the bench

    brozovic is going to be one of the best midfielders in the world, forget about all the young black players the media have been trying to tell you about

    in italy the best midfielders are non black
    inter will try to qualify for champions league
     
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    Everywhere in Europe the best midfielders are non black,so that statement means nothing:p.But its great that Kondogbia who was being whored around by jews as the next best midfielder is being displaced by a sadly,someone who until recently was a no name white.Its sick how every black player is world famous before he can even play a dozen games - Martial(nothing to say),Kondogbia(he was worldclass at Sevilla itself if you listened to the judenpress)Coman(he hardly played five games for PSG,went to Juve scored one goal and is now close to moving permanently to Bayern for 27m) and of course the biggest scandal of them all,Pogba,who was declared the world's best midfielder after a handful of games at Juve.Kante is now already being linked to PSG,Madrid.Sick.
     
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    For all the hoopla surrounding Napoli,nNo italian teams qualified for the quarter finals (CL or EL) for the first time since 2001.If Higuain wants the world to take him seriously,he should move to another team if Napoli doesn't qualify for the CL this time.

    Spain's record is super impressive on the other hand.Of the seven,six are still in their respective competitions and the seventh(Valencia) was eliminated by another Spanish club,Athletico.
     
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    higuain scored 2 goals to allow his team to take the 2nd place of the league

    https://streamable.com/kany
    https://streamable.com/j8rj


    with 32 goals in this campaign, he is the 3rd top scorer ever on a season in italy
    only 2 goals and nobody would have scored more than him in a season in italy, and there are 2 matches left
     
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    I was reading some stats on league attendance on Twitter - I can't link the tweet - which said the average % of a stadium filled in Serie A this year was only 54%. Compare that to the Premier League 96%, Bundesliga 92%, Eredivisie (Holland) 87%, Liga 71%, and France Ligue 1 66%. Even the 2nd divisions in England and Germany were well into the 60s, same with Scotland and the main league in Norway. Obviously some of these places have smaller stadia than Italy but it does seem like there are always more empty seats in Serie A than elsewhere. Anyone know the reason for that? I know they've had more economic difficulties than northern Europe. Is it more expensive? Are there more matches on free live TV? Disillusionment with modern football?
     
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    If you look at the crowds in the EPL these days, you see tons of non-native (non-Anglo) faces. Twenty years ago, the crowds there were nearly all native (Anglo). So, if you remove the foreign faces from those crowds today, you'd probably see the same % as you see in Italy's Serie A stadiums today.

    If you look at the stadiums in Italy's Serie A today, it's just the opposite, you hardly see any foreigners...nearly all are native Italians.

    Just like in England, "Third Wave Feminism" has now sadly invaded Italy and the rest of Western Europe. The only difference up until very recently in Italy, is that for the past twenty years, England has imported millions of immigrants from Third World countries. That's the difference.

    Cause and effect of "Third Wave Feminism" combined with a Italy's Socialist government and membership in the EU:
    Italy's Birth Rate Apocalypse
     
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    Matra, the attendance is practically flat if compared to the previous season with even a small increase in the numbers, but in general Serie A is in a deep crisis. It was the most powerful league in the 90s and early 2000s, but a number of factors contributed to the fall:
    - Economic crisis hit Italy particularly hard, with ticket prices becoming an issue
    - The budgets of some of the top teams were slashed dramatically. Serie A has 5 times smaller revenue than EPL and as a consequence they are not competitive in Europe anymore (except Juventus). Some big names are not competitive even in Italy (Milan, Inter)
    - It has become a boring 1 team championship with Juventus winning their fifth Serie A in a row and no serious competitor in sight
    - Stadia are crumbling in many places. Some of them were built decades ago when attendance was much higher, and are now too big (Meazza in Milan, Olimpico in Rome, San Paolo in Naples), with teams that have no money to invest in infrastructure. The only new or renewed stadiums are Juventus with their new stadium, Udinese and Sassuolo.
    - Like in France, football is increasingly becoming a sport for minorities (look at youth teams, as noticed by Arrigo Sacchi), hence it is more difficult for fans to identify with their teams.
    - Population is aging rapidly and the new generation prefers the playstation and Sky channel rather than going to the stadium
    - In general, with the combination of the Economic Crises and Immigration Crisis, the atmosphere is bleak in the country, and people are more preoccupied with bay-by-day survival then watching games

    Juventus, that is the only Italian team competitive in Europe has the highest occupancy (93%) but they recently built a much smaller stadium (40,000). Inter has the most spectators per game (46000) but they play in a 85,ooo seater which is difficult to fill. Similar problems with Roman teams Roma and especially Lazio who play at olimpico (60,000 seater). Milan attendance is way down because of their recent bad performance and the chaotic situation around their president Berlusconi and discussion about selling the team to the Chinese. Napoli, Fiorentina, Sampdoria, Atalanta, Torino have had decent numbers because of their loyal fan-base and decent performance. Udinese doubled the numbers because of the new stadium, Frosinone because of their first (and last?) season in Serie A. Lazio, Palermo, Chievo, Carpi had terrible numbers mostly because of bad performance. Below is attendance the statistics by team (from panorama.it).

    2015/16 2014/15 Load Factor %
    Inter 45.538 37.270 56,90%
    Napoli 38.760 32.266 64,34%
    Juventus 38.662 38.553 93,21%
    Milan 37.861 36.661 47,31%
    Roma 35.182 40.135 49,80%
    Fiorentina 28.734 30.309 61,97%
    Sampdoria 21.974 21.745 60,00%
    Genoa 21.359 20.045 58,35%
    Lazio 21.025 34.949 29,76%
    Torino 19.392 16.689 69,36%
    Bologna 18.899 Serie B 51,83%
    Verona 18.194 19.299 58,60%
    Palermo 18.013 17.481 49,55%
    Udinese 16.209 8.912 64,83%
    Atalanta 15.945 15.160 65,68%
    Sassuolo 11.437 12.831 52,98%
    Chievo 11.247 10.652 36,22%
    Empoli 9.510 9.229 58,40%
    Carpi 8.968 Serie B 42,51%
    Frosinone 7.288 Serie B 76,21%

    Total Serie A 22.221 22.057 55,33%
     
  20. Matra2

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    Heretic - Most of the non-English at Premier League matches seem to be East Asians (what Americans call Orientals). Given that there aren't that many of them - relatively speaking - in the UK I think they are probably tourists. As long as the Premier League is considered high status in Asia attending a match when visiting England and taking hundreds of selfies and other photos to prove they were there:buenrollo: will be normal for Asians.

    Porthos - Your mention of the new stadium in Turin reminded me of a conversation I had with a Juventus supporter who was in London to see Juve play Fulham back in 2010. He said Juve supporters didn't like the old Stadio delle Alpi. I don't recall him saying why but I'm guessing it was because the fans, particularly those behind the nets, always looked so far away from the action. I haven't seen too many matches in the last couple of years but in those that I did I sensed more of an atmosphere now at Juventus (and Torino) since they moved.
     
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    regarding france's stadium attendance, the data is flawed , because france being a crypto-communist country it works differently than in other coutries i think
    i don't know how it's like in the other leagues, but in france the stadiums are not owned by companies or the clubs, they are owned by the state
    so they don't care about making them profitable, they use sports as a way to get a good image, for example they invite a lot of arabs from a specific amateur club and they hope that their image will be better amongst arabs
    they lose millions every year but don't care because it's money they taxed, everything works that way in france, a country where institutionalised anti-racism has the same weight in the economy than agriculture and more than restaurants and hospitality industry
    it is hard to know how many of the tickets are actually sold to real people who pay to see the match because the media (financed by the state) television (financed by the state) etc aren't going to tell it
    only info i have found was for istres in the 2004-05 season, they had a stadium 40% full over the season, but more than 65% of the tickets were sold to the state who then gave the tickets away for free
     
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    about higuain, he managed to become the alltime top scorer over a season in italy with 36 goals, he will be sought after by every big club since he is the best striker in the world right now outside of ronaldo and messi
    we will see if he stays in napoli next season to play champions league, or goes to a richer club like psg
     
  23. Porthos

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    Matra,
    The "old" Juventus stadium (Stadio delle Alpi) was actually relatively new - built for the 1990 World Cup in Italy - but it was conceptually old, with the athletic track between the spectators and the pitch. The visibility was terrible (the pitch was far away) and everybody hated it. It was way too big with almost 70000 places, and the teams were often playing in front of a semi-empty stadion where you could hear the echo - not good for atmosphere. In short - they wasted a lot of money for a terrible stadium.
    In addition they had to share it with Torino (similar sharing arrangements are currently in place in Milan where Inter and AC Milan share the Meazza stadium, in Rome, where Roma and Lazio Share the Olimpico, and in Verona where Verona and Chievo share the Bentegodi). Juve doesn't consider Torino a real rival and Torino fans absolutely hate Juve. There were also disputes between the teams on who should cover stadium costs. As an aside - Torino has more fans in Turin proper than Juventus - Torino is considered the real city Team, while Juve is more of an establishment and national/global team with a lot of fans all over Italy, especially in the south. "Juve in trasferta, Calabria deserta" as the saying goes (when Juve plays away, Calabria is empty - Calabria being the southernmost region of the Italian peninsula).
    So Juve bought the Delle Alpi, tear it down and built the modern Juventus Stadium which has only about 40000 seats but is always full and has great visibility.
     
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    He has to move,else he'll be forgotten in a few years.I hope Atletico can buy him,but realistically Arsenal,Man City and PSG,are perhaps the only options.Juve would be a local rival,Barca can't pay even if they wanted to and Lewandowski alone is enough for Bayern what with their weak league with fewer games.Overall,PSG looks like the best option.
     
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    Here's an imbecile who got Buffon's face tattoed on his lower thigh:



    Well his mistress will get a good view of the tattoo while pegging this idiot,and hopefully that'll arouse her for this loser surely cannot:loko2gaydude:.
     

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