Is the US military getting ready for another war for Israel?

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  1. Charles Martel

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    US sends Patriot missile system to Middle East amid Iran tensions

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48235940

    The US is sending a Patriot missile-defence system to the Middle East amid escalating tensions with Iran.

    A warship, USS Arlington, with amphibious vehicles and aircraft on board, will also join the USS Abraham Lincoln strike group in the Gulf. And US B-52 bombers have arrived at a base in Qatar, the Pentagon said.

    The US said the moves were a response to a possible threat to US forces in the region by Iran, without specifying. Iran dismissed the claim as nonsense.


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    Trump is Being Set-Up for War with Iran

    by Paul Craig Roberts

    Trump destroyed his chance at being a successful president by the stupid appointments he has made. At the moment he is being set up by his national security advisor John Bolton and Israel for a war with Iran.

    Using the same format of lies that was used against Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Venezuela, Bolton has accused Iran of “troubling and escalatory indications” of a forthcoming Iranian attack on American forces in the Middle East. To help protect against the attack, Bolton has ordered Patriot missile batteries, an aircraft carrier strike group, and a bomber strike force to the region.

    Even the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, pointed out that Bolton failed to identify the “troubling and escalatory” Iranian actions. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/u-s...dle-east-to-counter-iranian-threats-1.7221997 No one else has seen any sign of them.

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    The reason for the Patriot missiles is not to deter Iran from an attack, but to prevent successful Iranian response to an attack on Iran.

    This is the likely situation: The deal between the Washington Ziocons and Netanyahu is that either Israel will attack an American ship or whatever is selected, and it will be blamed on Iran, thus forcing Trump to “defend America” and retaliate, or Israel using American disguise will attack Iran, thus provoking a response from Iran.

    Iran is already on hair trigger from having been provoked excessively by Washington withdrawing from the Iranian nuclear agreement, reimposing sanctions, and making endless false accusations against Iran, as Washington has done against Russia, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela, Yemen. It wouldn’t take much more to set off Iranian emotions.

    Trump is clearly set-up. If Bolton and Netanyahu want the US at war with Iran, it is their call.

    And they do want the US at war with Iran. Iran and Syria back Hezbollah, and Hezbollah prevents Israel’s annexation of southern Lebanon, which Israel has twice tried only to have its army, which is not good for anything except killing unarmed women and children in Gaza, quickly defeated by Hezbollah. Thus, eliminating support for Hezbollah is a high priority for Israel and its neoconservative allies in Washington.

    The neoconservatives have an additionall reason for delivering chaos to Iran. If Bolton can produce a situation in Iran like the one the US created in Libya, Iraq, and Syria, American-supplied jihadists can be infiltrated into Muslin provinces in the Russian Federation as punishment for Russia’s independent stance in world affairs.

    The stakes for Russia are higher in Iran than in Syria. Russia can stand aside only at huge cost to itself.

    China also has an interest. Until the Russian energy pipeline to China is completed, China needs Iranian oil. Disruption of Iran by chaos is a way of throttling China by reducing China’s energy supply.

    The war that Bolton and Netanyahu are preparing to spring on Trump is likely to be much larger than they think.

    http://www.americanfreedomunion.com/trump-is-being-set-up-for-war-with-iran/
     
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    Excellent article, Don.
     
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    Unfortunately, that is what it looks like. Trump should never have brought in Bolton in the first place. However, Russia will never stand for US aggression against Iran. Russia holds a huge advantage over US naval forces with their hypersonic missiles, and holds another huge advantage over US attack aircraft with their S-300 and S-400 air defense systems. I believe Iran has the S-300.

    Trump's recent hour-long conversation with Putin, and Pompeo's trip to Russia to talk with Lavrov, are good signs.
     
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    2 US destroyers enter Persian Gulf amid tensions with Iran

    https://www.rt.com/news/459546-us-destroyers-persian-gulf-iran/

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    Is the United States heading for war with Iran?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48298517

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    Trump says war will mean 'official end of Iran,' warns 'never threaten the United States again'

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-war-iran-never-threaten-united-states

    US pulls 'non-emergency staff' from Iraq as Iran tensions mount

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48279203

    US to send 1,500 extra troops to Middle East amid tensions

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48404141

     
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    Undoubtedly. The enemies in one form or another. Reminders of the USS Liberty which just had the the misfortune of its 54th anniversary (and I'd rather use the word "memorial" or something more respectful and reverent) this past Saturday. The Jews will never stop until they are stopped.
     
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    With the downing of the drone by Iran, the drumbeat is getting louder. Trump seems to be doing his level best to downplay the incident, to his credit. Nothing good for us or for the people of Iran could possibly come about by a confrontation. Seems to me that only one player in the region would benefit.....
     
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    Reports out that Trump ordered an attack that would have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians, but then changed his mind over the objection of his main advisors after the mission was underway.

    Of course it's hard to tell which reports out of the Trump White House are real.
     
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    Bad mistake by Donald Trump, now the Iranians are really upset. Trump is behaving like a puppet of Israel and the neocons.

    Qasem Soleimani: Iran vows 'severe revenge' for top general's death


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50986185

    Killing of Iran's Quds Force chief Soleimani by US "Most likely violates international law" – UN Rapporteur

    https://www.rt.com/news/477387-un-rapporteur-soleimani-airstrike/

    ‘A just struggle’: Netanyahu backs Soleimani’s killing as US ‘self-defense,’ says Quds head planned more attacks

    https://www.rt.com/news/477377-netanyahu-backs-soleimanis-killing-us/
     
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    There's been a lot of criticism of Trump. What's the alternative?
     
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    I think the obvious answer is for us to stop blindly supporting Israel. We have been at war for almost 20 years - thousands of lives lost and billions squandered on nation building in countries that have no interest or connection to the western ideals our forefathers used to create this country (obviously even here in the present day this country has lost its way).

    Trump could of and should of began pulling troops out of the Middle East when he took office. Instead once again Israel is using this country as a proxy to take on Iran. Just my .02.
     
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    I expected a war involving the US and Iran sooner.
    US foreign policy has been heavily influenced by zionists since Bernard Baruch was an advisor to Woodrow Wilson. Multiple generals and government officials have said as much over the years. But these comments, once ignored, are now all but forgotten. Sadly, Trump, a pitiful puppet, has provided more of the same.
     
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    Charles Martel, well played on this thread. The dates are impressive on this prediction. Perhaps this can now serve as our Zionist Iran War thread? I pray for a soldiers revolt against this crap, but thats why Uncle Sam gets you when you are 18 and dumb. Im embarrassed to have served in the military, having seen these wars for what they are.
     
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    Trump can't win either way ...1st he's rendered the U.S. impotent & disgrace for doing nothing about the embassy bombing...then he does stands up to the thug & gets blasted by same person.

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    It seems like we just keep staying in the middle east and as soon as we fix one problem, another one pops up and we are back to square one. It's clear that we will never get these people to come to any kind of compromise or live in peace amongst themselves. We need to get the hell out of there and stop accepting immigrants and refugees from a place in the world that's a hotbed breeding ground for terrorists.
     
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    Gentlemen, a Marine brig. general (Brig. Gen. William H. Seely III) is supposed to have sent a letter to the Iraqi Parliament stating that we are to start pulling our troops out of Iraq. The Dept. of Defense denies we're pulling out. On Drudge, there's a photo of the letter but I can't copy it. I'm just not that good on computers to do it. Can one of you copy and paste it here for me to copy and send to friends?
     

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