Joe Mesi fights tonight [June 23] in Montreal against Stephane Tessier. Like to see Joe win very quickly. On June 24[Saturday night]in Las Vegas, Timor Ibragimov fights Calvin Brock. This is an important fight-Brock is there Black Hope-they[PC Jock Sniffers] are putting a lot of stock[and hope in him]. A win by Timor can be a real blow to there media brainwashing of the American public and mostly our youth. Come on Timor!!!!
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I saw the Mesi fight live and he didn't look that good. Cosmetically he was overweight by a good 15 pounds. But worse his punches could be timed on a sundial and had no snap in them. He was lucky he was in with a heavy bag with arms. I just don't see good things coming out of this comeback. The last thing boxing needs is a tragedy happening to a well known fighter. Especially a likeable guy in Mesi.......
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Sultan was always viewed as the better prospect. He is more dynamic and has more of a pro style. From what I have read from online reports, Timor looked terrible and Brock looked slightly less than that. Maybe they both eliminated themselves from contention. Because Brock is American I suspect HBO will still send him out to face a Wlad and get inevitably slaughtered.......
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Sultan scored a hard luck draw against the huge stiff named Ray Austin. Tough fight to score as the ESPN2 team had it about a draw. He outworked Austin in stretches, but Austin's enormous size worked against the relatively small Ibragimov. Austin was able to score a late knockdown to salvage the draw, I suspect the rematch will be by the end of the year as the mandatory spot for Wlad has to be filled. I hope Sultan learns from this fight as the heavyweight division always needs new blood...
It was an entertaining HW fight with some action. Sultan did not look as sharp or as viscious as he did in his last fight. He weighed in at 231 pounds (11 pounds heavier than Dec.; his camp claimed the weight gain was intentional). Although I thought Ibragimov did a little more damage with his punches, the decision was understandable.
Austin was hard to hit (he's 6'6",245), Ibragimov stunned him several times but Austin was able to hold on and survive. Then he would use his reach advantage to keep his distance. Austin caught him with a left hook in the later rounds that cost Ibragimov the victory. I would definitely watch a rematch between these two.
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Austin was hard to hit (he's 6'6",245), Ibragimov stunned him several times but Austin was able to hold on and survive. Then he would use his reach advantage to keep his distance. Austin caught him with a left hook in the later rounds that cost Ibragimov the victory. I would definitely watch a rematch between these two.
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Ibragimov's power shots had more obvious effect on Austin than Austin's power shots did on him. This gave Ibragimov a slight edge in this close fight but a draw was a reasonable verdict. Sultan seemed overly leery of Austin's height and reach. His jabs were too pawing and tentative and telegraphed his desire to focus on big straight lefts.
Overall, Ibragimov is clearly a more dangerous and aggressive fighter who is likely to be the winner of a rematch and to remain a factor in the weight class.
Overall, Ibragimov is clearly a more dangerous and aggressive fighter who is likely to be the winner of a rematch and to remain a factor in the weight class.
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I was impressed with Ibragimov's power and stamina. However, Sultan does need to sharpen up his jab and learn to work a little more effectively on the inside. I still think he has an awful lot of potential and will be a force in the heavyweight division. Lahoavitch (spelling?)is one of the most impressive I have watched recently though.
In the prefight Ibragimov's manager compared him to Mike Tyson. Ibragimov didn't live up to that. He's a lot slower and much less skilled at working his way in. with
His main tactic being the old lunge and punch. But he does have heavy hands. That and a good chin will keep him in the mix. Austin won the boxing and controlled the distance and tempo while Ibragimov landed the harder shots. Classic judging dilemma. In this case a draw robbed neither fighter.
I wonder how the Ibragimov camp ended up with Panama Lewis. Looks like the Eastern Europeans can be as shady as anyone else in boxing. And why would you choose a trainer that can't work your corner during a fight?
This was a title eliminator? I have an idea. Since it was a draw, let them both fight Klitchko. On the same night. The two of them would be no more than six to eight rounds work for Vlad. Say, one or two for Austin, five or six for Ibragimov.
His main tactic being the old lunge and punch. But he does have heavy hands. That and a good chin will keep him in the mix. Austin won the boxing and controlled the distance and tempo while Ibragimov landed the harder shots. Classic judging dilemma. In this case a draw robbed neither fighter.
I wonder how the Ibragimov camp ended up with Panama Lewis. Looks like the Eastern Europeans can be as shady as anyone else in boxing. And why would you choose a trainer that can't work your corner during a fight?
This was a title eliminator? I have an idea. Since it was a draw, let them both fight Klitchko. On the same night. The two of them would be no more than six to eight rounds work for Vlad. Say, one or two for Austin, five or six for Ibragimov.
Various thoughts:
1) Sultan probably would've dropped Austin in the first round if Austin didn't hold on to his arm for twenty or thirty seconds. Heck, he could've dropped him a second time as well (late in the round, when Austin held on for dear life yet again.) So it could've been a 10-8 or 10-7 first round, but we'll never know because Austin is such a coward.
A little holding is okay, but you can't just hold forever like that. How about a little heart, a little toughness? Since when did it become okay for a FIGHTER to be so afraid of getting hit? You're a f*cking FIGHTER, if you don't want to be hit, go play golf, p*ssy.
Referees should dock a point or two throughout the fight when a fighter holds excessively. It wouldn't be excessive punishment, but it would give a slight edge to the fighter who has to put up with this sh*t. Wlad, Colazo, Spinks, and Austin all should've been docked a couple of points in their fights against Peter, Hatton, Karmazin, and Sultan, respectively. (Don't worry, Wlad is usually so dominant that one or two points won't matter much, and of course won't matter at all when he knocks out his opponent! Calzaghe was docked a point but it didn't matter because he decimated Lacy.) If I was the ref, I would've docked a point against Austin in the first round, and one point in the final round.
2) If Sultan has problems with a tall fighter who's going to hold a lot, he's going to have BIG problems against Wlad! As much as I enjoy seeing a smallish white HW- reminiscent of the old days- his size is a huge disadvantage.
3) Can Teddy Atlas stop talking for ten seconds? Nah!
4) The color commentator repeatedly said how great the fight was. Huh? A decent first round (would've been much better without the holding) and two knock downs, and that's a great fight? Nah. Lyakhovich/ Brewster was a great fight. This was mediocre at best.
I hate cautious, conservative, "defensive" fighters like Austin. They're so boring. And I'm not that racially biased about this, because I was livid about Timur Ibragimov's "performance" against Calvin Brock. I detest that style of fighting. I don't care if they win fighting that way. I'm a fight fan, I want action!!
1) Sultan probably would've dropped Austin in the first round if Austin didn't hold on to his arm for twenty or thirty seconds. Heck, he could've dropped him a second time as well (late in the round, when Austin held on for dear life yet again.) So it could've been a 10-8 or 10-7 first round, but we'll never know because Austin is such a coward.
A little holding is okay, but you can't just hold forever like that. How about a little heart, a little toughness? Since when did it become okay for a FIGHTER to be so afraid of getting hit? You're a f*cking FIGHTER, if you don't want to be hit, go play golf, p*ssy.
Referees should dock a point or two throughout the fight when a fighter holds excessively. It wouldn't be excessive punishment, but it would give a slight edge to the fighter who has to put up with this sh*t. Wlad, Colazo, Spinks, and Austin all should've been docked a couple of points in their fights against Peter, Hatton, Karmazin, and Sultan, respectively. (Don't worry, Wlad is usually so dominant that one or two points won't matter much, and of course won't matter at all when he knocks out his opponent! Calzaghe was docked a point but it didn't matter because he decimated Lacy.) If I was the ref, I would've docked a point against Austin in the first round, and one point in the final round.
2) If Sultan has problems with a tall fighter who's going to hold a lot, he's going to have BIG problems against Wlad! As much as I enjoy seeing a smallish white HW- reminiscent of the old days- his size is a huge disadvantage.
3) Can Teddy Atlas stop talking for ten seconds? Nah!
4) The color commentator repeatedly said how great the fight was. Huh? A decent first round (would've been much better without the holding) and two knock downs, and that's a great fight? Nah. Lyakhovich/ Brewster was a great fight. This was mediocre at best.
I hate cautious, conservative, "defensive" fighters like Austin. They're so boring. And I'm not that racially biased about this, because I was livid about Timur Ibragimov's "performance" against Calvin Brock. I detest that style of fighting. I don't care if they win fighting that way. I'm a fight fan, I want action!!
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That would have looked like an exhibition boxing match for the gay games with Carl Lewis or Kordell Stewart being the referee.....