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[Guest]

i was merely complaining about how black the miami dolphins roster had become,and that dante culpepper is a washed up bum, and howhe couldn't play quarterback without his ahleticism to help him along.I was called racists whenI pointed out that since Saban had taken over our team was darker but notany better talent wise.I also said that WesWelker is the teams best player even though some fans wanted him to get cutbecause of his color.I beleive the NFL is the most reacist leauge their is they shove the black quarterback down our throat, butI demand that WHITE people be given the chance to run the football just like blacks have been given the chance to throw it. The majority of fans are white and if enough of them speak up then the NFL will have to change to make the fans happy. Right now this leauge is bent onpromoting Michael Vick and ChadJohnson with their braids andgold teeth. Their are so many white players that fall through the cracks it sickens me. white athletes play for the love of the game, but alot of times doors are slammed in the faces whiles the black players have them repeatedly opened time and time again with greased palms behind them as well. I do see however now more white guys playing running back now than in the past. SoI feel the tide is changing I guess to many black kids locked up to fill outso manyD1 rosters. Oh wellI guess the trend is changing and hopefully for the betterthis is my post your comments are welocome please.





Edited by: dolphin Jimmy

 

[Don Wassall]

Jimmy, you have a home here if you want, as long as you're not Jimmy Johnson that is.

I check a lot of boards that have discussions about Caste Football, and most of them seem to have a "thought policeman" or two that immediately denounces this site as "racist" and worse without ever examining it or trying to look at it with an open mind. Human nature being what it is, the rest of the posters usually fall in line and show off their politically correct mindless opinions, though there is sometimes a supporter or two who dukes it out with them.


But there are also threads where Caste Football's perspective is discussed without name calling. This isn't a particularly intellectually stimulating one but it's recent, from the Arizona Cards forum on ESPN.There's anaive, glassy-eyed idealist, but no censor or bully jumps in to steer it:


[url]http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=20&threadI D=5259299&lastPostID=29455465 [/url]

 

[whiteCB]

Jimmy ,people's attitudes are shaped by beliefs and evaluations. Which are pretty hard to change or even shape. So the average attitude towards white players is exactly that of your typical fan. A belief that white players are inferrior to their black counterparts. Then their evaluation of the situation is only heightened every time ESPN, or pretty much every media outlet, is on and always is sucking Vick's and Chad's Johnson. This gives white people very negative, and in no way true, attitudes of the athletic ability of white guys. Edited by: whiteCB

 

[Triad]

A belief that white players are inferrior to their black counterparts. Then their evaluation of the situation is only heightened every time ESPN, or pretty much every media outlet, is on and always is sucking Vick's and Chad's Johnson. This gives white people very negative, and in no way true, attitudes of the athletic ability of white guys.

You very eloquently summed up how the system works.

 

[Ground Fighter]

Jimmy ,people's attitudes are shaped by beliefs and evaluations. Which are pretty hard to change or even shape. So the average attitude towards white players is exactly that of your typical fan. A belief that white players are inferrior to their black counterparts. Then their evaluation of the situation is only heightened every time ESPN, or pretty much every media outlet, is on and always is sucking Vick's and Chad's Johnson. This gives white people very negative, and in no way true, attitudes of the athletic ability of white guys.

I couldn't agree more. The average NFL fan is...well...a moron. And what do morons do? You guessed it...they believe everything they see on t.v. In other words, if they only see blacks at cornerback, they just accept the lie that Whites are too slow to play that position.

Now, take our little crew of rebels on CF for example. If we don't see Whites at a certain position, the first thing we want to know is WHY, and then we start asking questions. We want to know why White college players with better 40 times than some blacks in the NFL are not lining up at corner. WHY WHY WHY...this is what separates us from those retards who go out and spend money on some obnoxious, Whitey-hating black player's jersey for their son to wear.

Loooong before this site was even a twinkle in Don's eye

, I always had a racial perspective on sports. When I was really young my dad and I would watch games together on t.v. My racial-awarness came from him. As we watched football games, he would always tell me of great White players such as Csonka, Hacksaw Reynolds, Don Maynard, Riggins, James Craig, Jim Otis, etc. He would tell me that just because the amount of White athletes in the NFL had faded, that it wasn't because because we didn't have the ability. It was because we were victims of discrimination.

 

[Leonardfan]

A few days ago on another nfl draft site someone made a thread telling a comment about Micheal Crackhead Irvin and how he said Chris Hovan was overrated because he was white on the Dan Patrick show. Some of us than asked how could Hovan be overrated, no one talks about him. Irvin picked the one guy on the tampa bay defense that isnt old and aging and said he was the overrated one due to race. I brought up the fact that Irvin did not critcize Barber,Brooks or Rice at all. The post mysteriously disappeared. It is such bs

 

[Matt_Bowen_Fan]

Loooong before this site was even a twinkle in Don's eye

, I always had a racial perspective on sports. When I was really young my dad and I would watch games together on t.v. My racial-awarness came from him. As we watched football games, he would always tell me of great White players such as Csonka, Hacksaw Reynolds, Don Maynard, Riggins, James Craig, Jim Otis, etc. He would tell me that just because the amount of White athletes in the NFL had faded, that it wasn't because because we didn't have the ability. It was because we were victims of discrimination.

There's that, but also, the black players have gotten really 'in your face' in the last 10 years or so. Football has always had some guys like that, but now its the norm, not the exception. What happened to the classy black players? I mean, Marvin Harrison runs his route, scores his TD, gives the ball to the official, and then he and Manning talk about what went right/wrong etc. None of the dances, or other BS. I grew up loving Darrell Green when he started playing for the 'Skins, and he was a class act on and off the field(still heavily involved in charity work in the DC area). Either of those are guys I'd love to play football with/against, but the majority of black affletes? I honestly can't say I'd want them on my team. It's sad from my perspective as a white fan, and as a guy who was always told that class matters, win or lose.

 

[cslewis1]

Loooong before this site was even a twinkle in Don's eye

, I always had a racial perspective on sports...

That's funny, because I was just the opposite. My parents were bleeding hearts and raised me to be racially-aware in deference to "people of color". I absolutely hated the Celtics in the 80's and loved the lakers. I loved Vince Evans, Doug Williams, any team with a black QB. Hated Joe Paterno and Penn St. with a passion.

4 years in the melting pot of the Army changed all that though. We had a group of white guys get togehter to watch the Duke-UNLV championship and called ourselves the AWO(All white org---cheesy I know but we were kids) When the blacks found out there were race fights all over the place. It was actually pretty scary in some regards and sad in some too because I had friends who were black and after that, we weren't.

But the lesson was that when white people stand up, the WHOLE WORLD comes against them. It takes balls to do it indeed. Edited by: cslewis1

 

[Spooge]

Jimmy, the majority of music buying fans are white also,however, that does not stop the industry from shoving mocha"musicians" down our gullets. The NFL (negro football league) is no different. The agenda is the same: make it fresh, sell-it to the kids, RAP style, super-funkadelic,urbana. No whites allowed! Welcome aboard caste, but watch that you don't go too far with you verbiage in regard to the brutha's, it may be considered racist and too caustic to some of our posters. The anti-white mentality is growing each day across the spectrum of America, and yet, we at caste must tone down our outrage...

 

[Ground Fighter]

There's that, but also, the black players have gotten really 'in your face' in the last 10 years or so.

You're right, they have gotten more "in-your-face" over the years. The only crazy White boy to "get back in their faces" in the last 10 or 15 years was Bill Romanowski. And look what happened to him, he was deemed the dirtiest, most hated player ever, basically because he fought back (although, I admit, he did step over the line a few times). Chris Carter said once that he "hated playing against him, and that "he's a dirty player."

Now, I am not condoning EVERY SINGLE nasty thing Romo did, but I will admit the man never took any crap from foul-mouthed negro players (or anyone else for that matter). People always throw the whole "spitting in J.J. Stokes face" thing at me, whenever I defend Romo. I wasn't on the field, but I highly doubt that Romo just up and spit at him because he felt like it. More likely than not, he was provoked.

My point here, is that blacks are allowed to do as they please to Whitey on the football field, without any fear of repercusssions. You see, Whitey isn't just prohibited from playing certain positions, he's also not allowed to stand up for himself either. The second a White man fights back...well...look no further than what happened to Romo. Romo isn't really hated for being dirty, he is hated for many-a-time ruining blackys day on the gridiron. In other words, this is just another attempt from "the powers that be", to socially castrate us. Scrutiny until no end.

 

[bigunreal]

Ground Fighter, you are so right. The few whites that have succeeded in recent years are quite, unassuming types like John Lynch, Brian Urlacher, Mike Alstott and Drew Bennett. Watch Lynch play- he makes a hard tackle and then hangs his head and reports back to the huddle. No jumping up and down like a maniac in celebration. No trash talking. No egotistical nonsense during the few interviews he (or any other white player) is permitted on ESPN or the NFL Network. Jeremy Shockey is the only white guy playing now who has a wild streak to him. Otherwise, all the whiteys instinctively "know their place."

 

[White Shogun]

Jeremy Shockey is the only white guy playing now who has a wild streak to him. Otherwise, all the whiteys instinctively "know their place."

And guess who was being criticized on the ESPN Radio show yesterday? That's right, Shockey. Apparently he had to have a face to face meeting with Tom Coughlin about some of the comments he's been making. Shockey had a meeting with his coach because he said some of the same things that Tiki Barber, Plaxico Burress, and Strahan have all said.

 

[backrow]

yeah, Barber has been critizied for it as well, but not as excessively as Shockey...
and i say, well done Jeremy!

 

[Freedom]

Ground Fighter wrote: "The only crazy White boy to "get back in their faces" in the last 10 or 15 years was Bill Romanowski. And look what happened to him, he was deemed the dirtiest, most hated player ever, basically because he fought back (although, I admit, he did step over the line a few times). Chris Carter said once that he "hated playing against him, and that "he's a dirty player."




If a wide receiver says he hates playing against a particular player, it means that player has done his job.
If a successful receiver like Chris Carter hated playing against Romo, it means Romo was pretty good and should be in the Hall of Fame.

 

[backrow]

lol, i wouldn't say that just because player(s) hate facing someone that means automatic HoF consideration...

 

[white is right]

Romo won't get within sniffing distance of the hall. He is way too controversial. If he were an LT type he could make it. But he is a guy that is marginal hall of famer that has alot of baggage. Racial, drugs and dirtyness. I don't see him getting in unless they have a ceremony in 2106.....Edited by: white is right

 

[Ground Fighter]

Maybe the Negro Football League doesn't recognize that he is potential Hall of Fame material, but at least we do. However, a black athlete with half Romo's ability will have a spot reserved for him. Disgusting.


It looks like White athletes have a choice to: A., Stand up for yourself, do as you please, and don't take any malarky from people; basically the way Romo was.

Or B., Shut your mouth, bend over & take it in the pooper, put up perfect numbers your whole career, and if you kiss blacky's ass enough, maybe just maybe, there will be a HoF spot for you.

Honestly, if I were him, I wouldn't have done it any differently. I respect him way more.

 

[Freedom]

Didn't LT send drugs and prostites to his opponents rooms?
I can't say that I don't like the idea because if he did, it would actually be a smart thing to do because it would pamper the opponent. But it is still immoral.

Romo was really not that controversial(well, in the ethical sense). What did he do that no other player did, or attempted. See that 60 Minutes of him?

Dolphin Jimmy, not everyone seemed to hate your views and you're still listed on their board with 44 posts. Here's a thread everyone should read. http://www.phins.com/phorum/read.php?2,727Edited by: Freedom

 

[JD074]

Jimmy, the majority of music buying fans are white also,however, that does not stop the industry from shoving mocha"musicians" down our gullets. The NFL (negro football league) is no different. The agenda is the same: make it fresh, sell-it to the kids, RAP style, super-funkadelic,urbana. No whites allowed!

Unless you're a whigger like Eminem or Justin Timberlake!

I saw Timberlake on the Tonight Show a week or two ago, and he was on stage with about a dozen blacks, not one white bandmember. Coincidence? I think not.

Welcome aboard caste, but watch that you don't go too far with you verbiage in regard to the brutha's, it may be considered racist and too caustic to some of our posters. The anti-white mentality is growing each day across the spectrum of America, and yet, we at caste must tone down our outrage...

Not too much. Just a little bit.

 

[JD074]

People always throw the whole "spitting in J.J. Stokes face" thing at me, whenever I defend Romo. I wasn't on the field, but I highly doubt that Romo just up and spit at him because he felt like it. More likely than not, he was provoked.

He was. Stokes was talking plenty of trash right before Romo spit in his face. They usually don't show that part.

 

[white is right]

Didn't LT send drugs and prostites to his opponents rooms?
I can't say that I don't like the idea because if he did, it would actually be a smart thing to do because it would pamper the opponent. But it is still immoral.

Romo was really not that controversial(well, in the ethical sense). What did he do that no other player did, or attempted. See that 60 Minutes of him?

Dolphin Jimmy, not everyone seemed to hate your views and you're still listed on their board with 44 posts. Here's a thread everyone should read. http://www.phins.com/phorum/read.php?2,727

Yes and because of his crack abuse and hatred for the writers there was a small contingent of writers that said they wouldn't vote for him. LT had overwhelming credentials. Romo has more borderline credentials. He's Clay Matthews with a bristly personality or Jack Tatum or Conrad Doblers dirty reputation.

 

[Freedom]

Jack Tatum and Romanowski were both Raiders

. Ronnie Lott taught Romanowski how to play early in his career, or so I read on this board in an old post.

 

[robcat]

How many blacks spit on white players? It happens every season yet it is completely covered up or mentioned briefly and just as quickly forgotten. Romo was the designated white bully for everyone to hate, just like Bill Laimbeer in basketball. Now Bill Schroeder that was just pure white rage and anger misdirected at aninnocent white man that everyone somehow agreed upon through the subconscious to hate, a ghastly example of collective white pathology and irrationality.


At any rate i don't think Romo is Hall of Fame material. Hes comparable to Ron Santo in baseball, very good players whose overall careers fell a little short of what was needed.

 

[backrow]

last season: Sean Taylor spat on Micheal Pittman... i never heard much of this incident even a day after it happened...

and i agree with robcat, Romanowski is not quite HoF material.

 

[hedgehog]

Jeremy Shockey is the only white guy playing now who has a wild streak to him. Otherwise, all the whiteys instinctively "know their place."

And guess who was being criticized on the ESPN Radio show yesterday? That's right, Shockey. Apparently he had to have a face to face meeting with Tom Coughlin about some of the comments he's been making. Shockey had a meeting with his coach because he said some of the same things that Tiki Barber, Plaxico Burress, and Strahan have all said.

Shockey's comments were a topic of discussion on the ESPN pre-game show. Tom Jackson had some advice for Jeremy Shockey - "Shut up, just Shut up"and Jaws had to chime in as well "Let your play on the field do the talking"If Jeremy had a darker complexion the comments by Tom and Jaws would have been something like this. Tom: "thats just Jeremy being Jeremy" or "I am sure there is something going on behind the scenes, that would cause Jeremy to make these comments" The double standard is ridiculous. Edited by: KJV1