Horrific 7 Round Mock Draft?

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  1. Truthteller

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    First off, it was nice to see that CF had a spike in posts due to an obvious Afro-centric, pro-caste troll last weekend. But to prove we don't need trolls to generate more posting interest, I thought, perhaps, a new topic would help a little -- hence I decided it might be good to start a new (more specific) draft related post.

    Anyway, I just checked out NFL.com and saw some caste-clown (Chad Reuter), who looks like some sort nerdy white dad on a bad 1980's sitcom, has done a full 7 round mock draft and it's beyond horrible. I don't know all the players, but a pretty good estimate based on the names, positions and what I've seen on TV and read here at CF is that only 55 of the 253 players he projected to be selected in the mock will be white. That's a staggering low 21%, which is even crazier when you add in he has a bunch of 3rd string QB types after round 4 and a few punters and kickers! When you add in the small throng of white guards and tackles, he paints an even bleaker picture.

    Caste-whore Reuter has only one white WR being selected at the very end of the draft (249) and no white RB's. I hope this @sshole is way off, but only 53 to 59 whites being drafted has been the norm for several years now, so odds are he's going to be right. I remember back in the mid-to-latter part of the 1990's I used to be upset to see that only about 72 to 75 whites would be picked (close to 30%) year-after-year. Based on the way things are trending, 70 whites drafted this weekend would be a minor miracle and welcome surprise.


    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0900...nfl-mock-draft-teambyteam-picks-for-rounds-17


    Couple random Notes:

    ** I assumed some guy name Hoffman-Ellis at Washington was black, until I did a google search -- he's likely white and brought my total to 55.

    ** If I'm not mistaken, both Wylie and Danny Coale where among the top performers in the 40 yard dash at the Combine. How in the world can both drop so low on anyones list at NFL.com? And were are all the white WR's that had awesome pro days?

    **No Martinek, even with the 4.43/40 time and the chance to be "caste" as a "fullback" in the NFL?

    **Only two white safeties -- Smith, a potential 1st rounder and Hardin, who appears to be a bit asian (ala Kevin Kaesviharn)? Are there no other worthy white DB's in all of college football? We know how bad many of the black CB's fared at the Combine, I can't imagine the black safeties are that much faster or better?
     
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  2. jaxvid

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    I see no paradigm shift that would indicate the NFL is going to change it's anti-white racist ways. In fact as the draft day becomes more and more of a media circus there will be an increase in the desire to draft blacker as that is the expected norm. Whenever a white guy is picked there is a groan from the fan base so the signal is strongly sent to NFL GM's that a black pick is a safer pick.

    The NFL is all about entertainment, and criminally prone, thuggish looking, room brightening smilers, are what generates positive media spin and that is what it's all about in the United Consumer States of Americrap.

    Easily ignored is the success of white dominated teams like Green Bay, New England, and once Indy. They can all be Steelers/Giants/Eagles like as far as the richboy owners and corporate media hacks are concerned. Especially as black behaviour spins farther and farther out of control there is the need for some positive images which is what the NFL is primarily meant to do.

    I expect there will be plenty of complaining here at CF as superior White talent is ignored and undrafted. Happens every year.
     
  3. Truthteller

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    Good points all around Jaxvid. Yes, notice how ESPN still frequently replays video's of "Jet Nation" DWF's reacting in a very negative way to the Jets first rounders as far back as 1989 (Jeff Lageman) and 1995 (Kyle Brady)? The '95 footage is absolutely memorable, as they focus on some crestfallen loser/Warren Sapp fan with an obvious jett-black toupee, who appears around the 1:20 mark in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98




    Some mocks have up to 10 whites being selected in round one. That's likely the best case scenario. However, we know only 5 of the 26 prospects invited to the draft's Green Room will be white/look white: Luck, Kalil, McCellin, Tanneyhill and Fleener. That, also, comes out to about 20%. For most of the 1990's and into the early 2000's the NFL held the number of whites playing in the league steady at about 31-33% of their rosters. That was reflected at the draft. There might be an actual push to get that number down into the mid-20's? Perhaps Israel Cohen predicted the true reason for the Caste system 100 years ago?


     
  4. white is right

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    No mock draft is accurate past the first few rounds. Also the 7th round is total crap out. I recall an Ivy league fullback being selected over Henry Hysnoski last year, there is no way that should have happened. Also coaches love to grab projects that they can stash on the practice squad in this round.
     
  5. white is right

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    Jets fans are idiots plain and simple.....:frusty: They loved Blair Thomas back in 90' and some probably wanted to have Vernon Gholston's man juice so they could impregnate their wives/girlfriends.:dizzy:
     
  6. white is right

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    Back in the 90's the draft went to 9 rounds so more White would have been drafted then. With a 7 round draft some very good players won't get picked, Black or White. I recall Noel Devine not getting picked(head case but talented enough for a 7th round flyer).
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    The drafts are usually blacker than the league as a whole. For one thing very few kickers and punters are drafted, and no long snappers. All three are virtually one hundred percent White positions. (I'm still waiting for an explanation from the corporate media as to why blacks don't dominate kicking; after all shouldn't the league be filled with "athletic" black kickers with "cannon legs" who are nailing 75 yard field goals and kicking punts the length of the field?)

    Another reason is that White players are undervalued, as GMs often draft them later or not at all, but many will "unexpectedly" be quite good when/if they ever do receive a fair opportunity.

    I've also seen mocks with 10 Whites in the first round. Can't remember the last time that many were picked in the first round; my guess would be at least a decade and possibly as far back as the 1989 draft, which had lots of Whites picked in the first round. But Fleener's stock is supposedly dropping rapidly -- horror of horrors he's not a great blocker, which is never a big deal when it comes to black receiving TEs. McClellan and Konz could also drop out of the first round. Also, Tannehill could be this year's White QB who is drafted much later than predicted, an annual event going back to Aaron Rodgers in 2005.
     
  8. Truthteller

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    Good points WIR. I was only talking about the 7 round drafts from 1995 and going foward -- hence I wrote "mid-to-latter part of the 1990's".

    I believe the draft was 12 rounds from the mid-1970's all the way until 1992. 336 players were drafted in 92. The next year (1993) it was cut by 4 rounds and only 224 players were selected. But in 1993 and 1994, it must be noted, there were only 28 teams (32 now) and fewer compensation picks.

    In 1995, when both Jacksonville and Carolina entered the league, the draft got to about the 250 point, where it remains, even with the addition of a the re-launched Cleveland franchise and the Texans. Doing a quick count, I think there were about 75 whites picked out of the 249 in 1995. Both expansion teams were fairly white friendly then and, looking back, quite a few white DT's drafted in the latter rounds became real good -- better than the sumos that went much higher: i.e. Jason Fisk, Travis Hall, Chad Eaton.

    So the numbers are absolutely getting worse since 1995 and there is no doubt this is the way the powers that be want it. Jaxvid is correct. Even if some extra white WR's (Ebert, Coale, Pearcy) and Martinek get drafted this week, there will still be a ton of moaning and complaining about the goys (sics) that obviously got screwed.

    Also, our Afro-centric troll last weekend noted something like this: "Don't worry, you're guys (Ebert, Shoemaker, ect.) will get a shot". That's all well and good, but only a fool doesn't realize a prospects chances of making it in the NFL are directly related to where he's drafted: Players (mostly black) drafted in the top 3 rounds will be given repeated chances to make it and must prove they "can't play". 6th & 7th rounder and undrafted free agents have much fewer chances to make a 53 man roster and very little chance to ever start -- so expect the same old; same old this year and going forward.

    Finally, yes, Jets fans are mostly repugnant (looks wise and in terms of personality). They are basically the real life version of Doug's fellow IPS workers and buddies (i.e Spence) on the 2000's CBS sitcom King of Queens.
     
  9. Truthteller

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    Yes, great points, Don. I've also noted this before. With 53 man rosters and very few punters, kickers and snappers drafted, a large chunk of players from those positions (who make up about 6% of 53 man rosters) will be undrafted. So if only about 24 to 26% of the players drafted are white, that would be consistent with the league being about 30 to 32% white, as it was from the mid 1990's until the present. If the numbers decrease to about 21 to 23% white players drafted, then we could eventually see the total number of whites on rosters shrink even more -- to about 27 to 29%. That could happen very soon and stay that way for a while.


    Don, as I've noted many times, the 1989 draft was last draft that was fairly white friendly. What changed after that, who knows? Did it have something to do with the super liberal gentile Paul Tagliabue becoming the Commish in 1990? 1989 saw 12 whites (out of 28) picked in round one. Dallas and Phoenix also used future 1st round picks in the Supp. draft to select QB's (Walsh & Rosenbach). A whole bunch of whites were picked in rounds two and three (link below) in '89. My guess is over 43% of the players picked in the top 3 rounds were white in 1989...In 1990 it changed rapidly. Just two whites (George & Brostek) in round one and only a handful in each of the next two rounds. Things have never changed much since then. I would say in most drafts since 1989, whites make up less than 20% of the players drafted in the top 3 rounds. Only small spikes above 20% could be due to a large class of QB's?


    http://www.mynfldraft.com/1989

    http://www.mynfldraft.com/1990
     
  10. white is right

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    Yes all you have to look at is the Woodhead fiasco with the Jets. He was cut to keep a roster spot for a guy who everybody following the Jets thought was the worst of the 5 tailbacks that the Jets kept for a day. Yes Jets fans traditionally have been more working class as the tickets were more available and guys like Fireman Ed are in the stands. The only celebrity fan I recall of the Jets in recent years is James Gandalfini. The Giants get the more status concious celebrities.
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    Truthteller...nice post. I try to compile the number of white players drafted every year...unfortunately it always stays within the 53-60 player range. It really does not deviate much from year to year since I have been tracking (only since 2006 or so). Every year I am somewhat optimistic it may hit the 70 mark...I could easily make an argument for 70+ players to get drafted. The first round projections are much whiter than normal this year.

    I will keep my fingers crossed for more white players to get drafted this year but it probably won't eclipse 25%.
     
  12. dwid

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    well I read that they increased training camp rosters from 80 to 90 so hopefully we at least see more Whites get a chance, at least a look in training camp, which hopefully translates into a few more on the 53 man roster, so while the draft may screw over playeres hopefully a few more UDFAs squeeze in.
     
  13. Truthteller

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    Thanks, LF. I did compile the numbers several times over the years, but I did not store them anywhere. As I noted, in general terms, since the draft went to about 250 picks in 1995, we've gone through different periods. From the mid 1990's into the early 2000's, the number of whites drafted was usually in the 70 to 75 area -- or about 30 to 32%. In recent years, I think it's usually dropped into the 53 to 60 range (as you noted), which is bad. That's about 23% or less.

    Also, as I noted, since 1989 the number of whites picked in the premium rounds (1 to 3) has plummeted. That's real bad and serious cause for concern because that's were most of the NFL starters are found. In the 2010, we had a few extra good prospects at WR, TE and Gerhart that we thought could go early and some did (Decker, Gerhart, Gronk, Shipley). This year there seems to be some extra white 3-4 OLB's (i.e. McCellin) and DE's (Crick, Wolfe), but they'll probably be offset by fewer whites at offensive skill spots. Best chance for there to be 70 white draft picks, is if a bunch of Combine/pro day standouts go in rounds 5 to 7 -- i.e. Wylie, Ebert, Coale, Martinek, Pearcy, ect. Hope that happens; really doubt it will.

    dwid. Not sure if an increase in pre-season rosters will help that much. I guess it depends on what team a white free agent lands on. If they go to the Steelers or Bears, they are likely ending their careers before they start. Other teams (Pats and Pack) they might be able to make a practice squad, then work there way up after injuries -- i.e. Chad Hall, Amendola, Woodhead, ect. Problem is, for every white "overacheiver" that makes it as a rookie free agent, two to three black undrafted guys make it as well -- Arian Foster, Victor Cruz, Antonio Gates, Miles Austin, James Harrison, Devon Bess, Bart Scott, ect. -- so it always seems to even out in the end.
     

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