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Discussion in 'Media Racism and Stereotyping' started by Ground Fighter, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Ground Fighter

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    http:/jonentine.com/reviews/Orlando_ 01.htm

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  2. jcolec02

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    what is it??? website doesnt work...
     
  3. Ground Fighter

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    Are you sure? The link works for me.

    Dammit, well its supposed to be link to a very lengthy article about Brock Forsey and the disappearance of the White running back. Try it again, jcolec.
     
  4. Ground Fighter

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    jcolec,


    Type it in the address box exactly as I have it typed word for word. The article is titled "Endangered Species", and its written by Jon Entine if you want to google it to find it. I think everyone should read this if they can.
     
  5. White Shogun

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    Thanks for posting the article Ground Fighter, but I'll pass. I saw 'jonentine' in the link text and decided to skip it. I've read enough of his screed to know I won't like what he has to say and will likely just be pissed off after reading it. [​IMG]
     
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    I honestly never heard of the guy until today. I just entered "Brock Forsey" into the optimum search engine and this article was one of the many things that came up. The article is not what you think, so if you get a chance, read it. I've never steered anyone wrong on this website before.[​IMG]

    I also found some strange stuff as well. I stumbled upon one website that had Brock in all these pictures with what looked like random bimbos. It was some local radio stations site, and the headline for some of the pics said something like, "We're hangin' out with former Boise running back Brock Forsey" or something of that nature. From the pics, I doubt he's playing any kind of football anymore as most of his build is gone. I'll see if I can find the site if anyone wants to see what has, unfortunately, become of him.
     
  7. Ground Fighter

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    Here's the web pages address if anyone is interested:

    http://www.theticketchicks.com/pages/TCEventsPhotoAlbum.h
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    So, here is what has become of Brock Forsey. Standing around with morons and wearing a wool beanie like friggin' Fred Durst from Limp Bizkit. What a waste of talent. [​IMG]
     
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    It doesn't work for me either, even though I noticed that after http: you only put one / instead of two //s. Even then it did not work.
     
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    Oh,didn't you just love that line before the last parapgraph - "That's never going to change.Color has nothing to do with it."?

    Hey blacks:WHAT "racism"?
    WHAT "oppression"?
     
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    Entine didn't write that article. Entine is the fool who wrote the book Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It. That article link you posted is by two writers from the Orlando Sentinel. I think it's the best mainstream article I've ever read on the subject of anti-white discrimination in football, everyone should read it.
     
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    I don't understand how they can make the argument with a straight face that the running back position is all about, and only about, speed. There are many black running backs who aren't that fast or agile, either one. Strength, power, peripheral vision, mental alertness, and a host of other factors have a role in determining just how good a running back a player may be.

    Considering that you only need enough speed to hit the hole and outrun a few lineman, why do they insist on saying that a back have 4.4 speed? How many running backs actually run that fast? You're going to need more power and strength to take hits and break tackles once you're in the open field facing linebackers and safeties anyway.
     
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    I agree. I can think of a number of slow black runningbacks off the top of my head. Maurice "Slow Mo" Clarett and Ron "Bubble Butt" Dayne for example.Clarett ran a 4.8 or something like that. I don't know what Dayne's 40 time was, but I'm sure theres some handicapped people out there that would give him a run for his money.[​IMG]
     
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    After Brock Forsey's big game here in Chicago, Rick Telander of the
    Chicago Sun Times wrote an article wondering why there were no white
    running backs in the NFL. He didn't go into nearly as much detail as this
    article. However, he was hauled onto local shows up here and asked
    about his article--it was VERY controversial that he insinuated there was
    some sort of racial discrimination against whites.

    I noticed how Entine sidestepped the issue of racial differences in
    intelligence. What a daring taboo-breaker!

    And if Bowden really does play the best player, regardless of race, then
    why was he laughing when asked about white running backs? Seems the
    white guys playing linebacker are fast and agile enough to hunt down and
    tackle those superior "athletes". Why switch the white guys to linebacker
    and ask them to hunt down and tackle if they are so slow and suck so
    much?If the black guys can't be the star, then they disrupt the whole
    team. Bobby Bowden, boot-licker. What a crap that guy is!

    I also noticed the black racists Ozzie Newsome and Eric Dickerson had no
    reluctance in spewing their racist bilge in the press. Without
    repercussions, of course. I think the mirror was invented for Eric
    Dickerson too.

    Thanks for linking this article JD074 and Ground Fighter.
     
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    Well, that argument is a bit moot anyway. Ron Dayne ran a 4.65. Emmit Smith, I heard, ran a 4.6. Shaun Alexander ran a 4.63. Sammy Morris ran a 4.6. Kevan Barlow ran a 4.6.

    I could go on. The speed argument is an attempt at an excuse. It doesn't work. Speed can't be the reason that Forsey, who runs a 4.6, gets no invite to the combine and Domanick Davis, who runs a 4.6, does.

    There are other motives in play here.
     
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    And I'll tell you what happened after "Brock's big game". The "powers-that-be" panicked when they saw mighty Whitey run for over a hundred yards a score a touchdown. When I look at his pics, I can definitely tell that he's a natural runningback, and not a guy that the caste system idiots can label as a "fullback". His height, weight, build, speed, vascularity...everything was working for him...except the NFL's set racist system. He had it all, and was thrown in the trash for no other reason than the fact that he's White man. I'm so heated right now, steam is hissing out of my ears. [​IMG]

    For Christ's sake, its like he was punished and banned from the league for GOOD performance! Black players mess up every game, time after time, and its like people can't make enough excuses for them. "Its ok Tyrone, juss don't muss up ness week aaiight." Despicable.
     
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    I could go on. The speed argument is an attempt at an excuse. It doesn't work. Speed can't be the reason that Forsey, who runs a 4.6, gets no invite to the combine and Domanick Davis, who runs a 4.6, does.

    There are other motives in play here.


    Futuregohan30 what do you think the other motives are.
     
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    Wisconsin's starting "tailback" this season is a 5-11, 242-pound redshirt freshman who runs a 4.8 40... pj hill is 6th NATIONALLY in rushing... just goes to show that OBVIOUSLY there's more to being a running back than pure speed.

    similarly, jovorskie lane, a "tailback" at Texas A&M despite weighing in at close to 300-pounds according to his coaches, is tied for 6th nationally with 19 rushing TDs and 689 yards rushing this year.

    how many white guys with those measurables are getting a chance to play tailback in collegiate football? ZERO.

    the double standard is the problem. where hill and lane are said to be a "devastating, punishing, physical runners," white guys who have the same build, speed, and so forth are called "waaaaay too slow" and are relegated to merely blocking. there are hundreds if not thousands of white runners out there who are just as good, if not better, but if you suggest that they would make tremendous running backs, you get laughed at, especially by white fans. [​IMG]

    therein lies the problem that all of us here at Caste Football resent.Edited by: Jimmy Chitwood
     
  19. Guest

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    To be simple, it's basically a form of racial stereotyping. Blacks are really athletic. Whites aren't so much.
    Whites and asians are smart. Blacks aren't so much. It's another form of sociological herding, if you will, that sort of herds us into different areas based on racial perceptions.

    I mean, we have to face it: our general societal perception is that white men can't jump, right? The perception is that white people cannot run, so, naturally, they aren't perceived to be good running backs.
    It's just a form of sociological engineering.
     
  20. white tornado

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    So you agree with us that whites are fully capable of being great athletes but arent allowed to.
     
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    It is true to an extent, and in some cases racial stereotyping prevents them from being seen the way they probably rightfully should be.
    In other words, yes, to an extent, I agree on that much.
     
  22. white tornado

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    So what are you doing to remedy this and help fight descrimination.
     
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    Well, as a black person, it's more complicated (people think I'm odd for pointing it out).
    However, all I can really do now is occasionally talk about it when I see it, and point it out once in a blue moon on mainstream football boards(on topics like David Ball, for example, when people say he's nt worth drafting, etc, etc).

    Overall, there is discrimination on both sides of this coin anyway(not just with whites), so it's not as simple as just fighting one side.
     
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    Good question for everyone on the forum, not just the black kid.
     
  25. PitBull

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    Being black, it may not be so simple for you. But it is for us.
     

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