Happy Christopher Columbus day!

Charles Martel

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"You can never cross the ocean until you have the courage to lose sight of the shore" - Christopher Columbus

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Carch., thanks for starting this thread. Columbus is one of my favorite historical figures.
That said, I don't believe the quote u posted is an authentic quote from Columbus. I think it has been erroneously attributed to him over the years.

I will offer a quote about Columbus, from his contemporary Alessandro Geraldini, who was a royal tutor & New World traveler. In defending Columbus from slanderous accusations of navigational ineptitude & simply being the benefactor of dumb luck Geraldini said, Columbus was moved to undertake this long ocean expedition, not by vain chatter of men, or the experience of Galician sailors, but by sure reasoning and a sure knowledge of the orbit of Heaven and earth.

The cultural-Marxists comically imply that Columbus was a dufus who simply got lucky crossing the Atlantic (multiple times).. But their agenda should be transparent to anyone watching. Their erasure of Columbus is just part & parcel of their destruction of Western tradition & confidence. Unfortunately, the successful death of Columbus' honor signals the death of the West. Hold up this man & his accomplishments..

And whether they realize it or not, the cultMarxists benefit from the New World paradigm of freedom & (both geographical and social) mobility that Columbus initiated. peace.
 

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Everybody hating on Columbus. People utterly ignorant of nautical technology are apparently under the delusion that any old ship and any old navigator could have reached the Americas. Which also explains why there's all sorts of counter-factual dorks who think that the Muslims discovered the Americas in the Medieval era, or that the Viking expeditions were at all comparable to Columbus's. People see the world now, and assume that ships can sail anywhere, which they can for the most part. But it was not always so. The sea once held horrors for sailors against which all of man's ingenuity was then utterly impotent. A sudden storm could mean the drowning of an entire fleet. Even in the days of sailing wind and fog were the bane of sturdier ships, such as Shovell's fleet which was lost in the Chops, and the Spanish Armada that lost many ships and men to the rocks of the Orkneys and the coast of Ireland.

Sailing in a straight line from Spain to the Americas seems so deceptively simple on a map, it seems as if anybody could have done it if they simply outfitted a vessel and unfurled their canvas with an easterly wind behind them.

In reality I would even be willing to divide all maritime history between pre-Columbus and post-Columbus because he completely revolutionised navigation and exploration.
Before Columbus mariners could not go far from shore, they could certainly not go on inter-continental expeditions. The Americas were in total isolation from the rest of the world, it was difficult even to reach south of the Sahara where Africans were in semi-isolation.

Attempts in antiquity to sail southwards were made by the intrepid sailors of the Mediterranean. It was rumoured that the Phoenicians like Hanno the Navigator passed the Straits of Gibraltar and pushed down the west coast of Africa. Some sources say that the Greek sailor Eudoxus, after returning from India, set out to circumnavigate Africa.
If these men in fact set out to round the Cape of Good Hope they perished in the attempt because there are no records of them ever returning, and so Europeans knew almost nothing of the southern continent.

After the Arabs conquered the Middle-East and Iberia, European explorations came to an end, though the Arabs continued to push south along the coast of Africa. The Portuguese, after a great deal of laborious work establishing stations for resupply and repair meticulously along the west coast of Africa at last rounded the Cape of Good Hope almost a century after they had set out. What it took Henry the Navigator and all of the Portuguese who followed him a century to achieve, what Hanno and Eudoxus died attempting, what no Greek, Phoenician, nor Arab mariner no matter how skilled in sailing the vessels of their day could do over millenia, Columbus did in a few months.

This is a staggering and almost unbelievable achievement that has been unjustly clouded by time and the vast improvements of navigation since then. Columbus showed the world that nautical technology had at last come into its own. No longer were ships bound to the shore, no longer were navigators forced to sail with the coast in sight to seek shelter and to maintain their bearings. The oceans were the limit, wherever water touched man could go.

Within a few generations the Europeans went from knowing almost nothing of the planet to mapping out its entirety with remarkable accuracy. The sea was to be the especial preserve of Europeans for the next four centuries until at last the rise of Japan gave them a competitor. But one who imagines that the achievement of European explorers was nothing so impressive ought to reflect that no nation outside Europe was significant to maritime progression after the heyday of the Arabs. Even the mighty fleets of Barbarossa and Dragut's day had passed, their ancient obsolete galleys a curious anachronism in a world filling up with sails.

If sailing between continents and across oceans were really so simple, then any non-European ought to have been able to do it. But they were not and did not. Because they lacked the technology to build sufficiently sturdy ships and were ignorant in sophisticated navigation and cartography.

After the destruction of Turkish sea power, long overdue, at Lepanto in 1571, there was no non-European society that could hope to contend with the Europeans on the water. Henceforth all of the world's greatest navies, both military and mercantile, were to be exclusively European until the eve of the First World War.

That is the achievement of Columbus, a most extraordinary technical feat that is without parallel in world history.
 

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There's a lot of Columbus-bashing today on twitter.

I see many of the tweets are from Negroes, rather than American Indians.
 

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The bashing of Columbus perfectly embodies the attack on anyone or anything tied to Western civilization ie. white people. Those bashing him all spew out the same non-nonsensical attacks they have been force-fed by the current perverse society and the enablers which spew out this rhetoric. This society is devolving and crumbling at an alarming rate.

As for the Native Americans - didn't they cross a land bridge from Russia/Asia following migratory herds of animals they relied on as a food source. That is the currently held belief of the scientific and anthropological communities. So there is actually no such thing as a Native American. The fact of the matter is that survival of the fittest occurred and nature took its course. As has been the story through history - those from the continent of Europe have been dominant race, ethnic group and culture.

The pure ignorance of all these nitwits spewing the narrative about Columbus being a rapist, slave trader and murderer are base arguments brought on by people with no appreciation of historical context or of the actual truth. As is always the case no mention is ever made of the Arab or Blacks explicit participation in the slave trade.

Nice find on your post Phall.
 

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Virtually all South Americans are part Spanish or Portuguese so if Columbus wouldn't have "discovered" the west then none of those part Europeans would be alive. They never mention that. They should all kill themselves to remove the stain of Columbus from the earth if they hate him so much.

I celebrated Indigenous People's Day by laughing at how stupid and primitive their culture was and how easy they were eliminated. Losers!!
 

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Virtually all South Americans are part Spanish or Portuguese so if Columbus wouldn't have "discovered" the west then none of those part Europeans would be alive. They never mention that. They should all kill themselves to remove the stain of Columbus from the earth if they hate him so much.

I celebrated Indigenous People's Day by laughing at how stupid and primitive their culture was and how easy they were eliminated. Losers!!

LOL! Well said. ;-)

That brand of bullcorn reminds me of the pultroon pansies who whine & cry about "native Americans" & how the White man 'stole' their lands. Yet, these pantywaist pinkos' beloved injuns were mere savage heathens that contributed a drop in the bucket to humanity...compared to the endless plethora that the White man has given civilization. Case in point...it was the White man who founded the Constitutional Republic (America v1) & made it great. Thus, it should be the kindred of those men who reap the bounty & keep the ship afloat. This land should have been reserved solely for those of similar kind as the Founders.
 
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As for the Native Americans - didn't they cross a land bridge from Russia/Asia..

Yeah, but that fact is irrelevant to the politicized term Native American.. My estimation, Native American is used by cultural-Marxists & ethnocentric activists to suggest/contrast Indian tribes as the true & eternal owners of the New World.. against Europeans, the eternal trespassers & villains. Even if/when it's confirmed that there were Caucasians in North America prior to the settlement of Indian tribes, 'Native American' will still be used by Marxists to uphold their subversive, bigoted take on history.. ie-the birthright-continent owning Indian tribes were monolithic & noble victims.. Europeans were monolithic, predatory bad guys.

In Columbus' first voyage journal, he documents the instructions he gave to leave their hosts' dwellings unmolested. He practiced respect for his New World hosts. Relations went sideways after Columbus headed home, and falls on the initial settlers, and natives, left behind to coexist.

And Columbus was dealing with various, differing tribes, which is a fact that the Marxist sh*theads completely ignore, or are unaware of. To Jax's point, the local Carib tribe was viewed by their neighbors as aggressive & cannibalistic.. Other friendly tribes warned Columbus about the Carib. All of these objective, historical nuances & realities are useless to cultMarxist history/herstory tho..
 
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