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Discussion in 'UFC-- Mixed Martial Arts' started by Feng_Nguyen, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. Feng_Nguyen

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    good site.


    you make many good points.


    i now add mine.


    I am a martial arts instructor for years.{ tae kwon do.}


    many more i spend in other types of martial arts. {muay thai}


    i can tellthat for certain in tournament competition there is no disadvantage of whites. they win all the time, or they lose only if they don't train.


    no difference of race in tournaments.


    continue with this site. there needs to be a site this type.


    feng
     
  2. StarWars

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    Thanks I guess. It is actually disturbing how many people think whites are less athletic and slower than blacks. Kindof rediculous with figures like the Klitschkos, yet this stereotype persists. I dont know much about Assians because I dont see many of them (not assuming your Asian), but from what Ive seen they have equal quickness to whites and blacks, and good hand eye coordination. I just dont see them that much so I couldn't say, all I know is that they dont really make good sprrinters, especially for Nationalistic countries that actually care about their athletes.
     
  3. NorCal831

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    yea when it comes to fighting, especially MMA, i dont think there is are any differences (except that some things point to whites having stronger upper bodies) in terms of race. but personally i feel whites and to a lesser extent asians will always dominate MMA.
     
  4. celticdb15

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    How about a cardio difference?? Most of the black guys ive seen fight (except Rashad Evans and Silva) always seem to get winded faster than their non black counterparts.
     
  5. NorCal831

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    that slipped my mind, but there definitely might be a difference in cardio. from personal experience playing team sports with black guys (football), it seems like they definitely fatigue faster than white guys. whether its a genetic difference (possible) or laziness (also possible) im not sure but it appears that white almost always have the better cardio.
     
  6. Feng_Nguyen

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    Ibe quick toadd how ever, in real life situatin, whites havemore chance of death by palm strike. dragon strike to nose. The nose it protude more out on white people. Make to much sense if think a about. This have I seen unforrtunatly to times in hongkong street fight machess. But in tournament situatin, this death blow illeagal. Nothing to worry for whites.
     
  7. StarWars

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    I've read that this is a myth because there is no bone in the nose, just cartilage. You may have seen people die from nose blows because their brain bounced around in their head, but not because the nose has a bone in it that getslodged in the brain when the palm strike occurrs And in real life situation we have weapons other than our hands.
     
  8. celticdb15

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    Glad to bring up a good point![​IMG]
     
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    Us Aryan/Nordish Whites have more natural strength than other races, as evidenced by our dominance in the WSM competition.[​IMG]
     
  10. King Rotten

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    Hi Feng, your theories are quite intriguing but also flawedand while it is completely obvious that the members who replied to youwith theirrebuttalshave a 3rd grade education at best, I can't help but to agree with them onsome of theirpoints. Right now, though, that is neither here nor there.


    What is most important at the moment (considering I am currently a competitor on the MMA circuit) is to obtain some knowledge regarding this death palm - dragon strike maneuver. My master refused to elaborate on it, and seemed quite disturbed that someone was mentioning it online. I would like to add this skill to my training or......arsenal if you will.


    Can you help?
     
  11. celticdb15

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    3rd grade education???[​IMG]
     
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    king rotten- tell us about poison hand and iron palm,thanks
     
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    I shall have you know that I passed grade 4 last year and am working hard and may pass grade 5 this turn around! [​IMG]
     
  14. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I think many Asian qualities as athletes are similar to whites actually, but East Asians "on average" seem to have a "slight" overall strength disadvantage to whites mostly due to size. As far as sprinting the slight disadvantage is probably mostly b/c most East Asians are shorter than Europeans-same with Mestizos-or b/c we have slightly stronger quad muscles.

    One area East Asians may "possibly" have a slight advantage over whites is overall technique and possibly hand-eye coordination and footwork technique. They are either the best or at least very good at Ping Pong, Martial Arts, Gymnastics, Diving and "pretty competitive" at tennis-especially the French Open.

    Anyone interested in the debate of where I believe blacks and whites have slight advantages athletically should look on page one of "the black athlete" thread in the track forum. I for one- don't believe in white supremacy in every life facet, just that whites have lots of gifts in sports we are not given credit for. Still quite arguably- we are the best "ALL ROUND" athletes in the world by a small margin.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  15. StarWars

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    I agree and they are also good fighters. Mongolians are very strong though; almost as strong as Icelandic/Slavic/Northern Europeans/Germans/Scots and probably stronger on average than the rest of western europe.
     
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    For their size Mongolians probably would be basically the same strength wise as Icelandic/Nordic and Slavic peoples, but tend to be slightly smaller. The Scots are also very strong b/c they are known to have some Viking blood, although the Irish have some as well-although less so. The Germans have been thought to be a mix of mostly Celtic with some Slavic blood.

    I read an article that Europe was divided into three groups about 35,000 years ago. Europe was divided by the Ice shelves during early migration into the continent during an Ice age. Three groups and languages emerged-Slavs to the East and north, Celts in central/western- and northern Europe and Latins mostly to the south. I believe Nords/ Icelanders are closely related to the Slavs, but it was a few years ago when I read this- so I may have forgotten.

    Also, I have been amazed by the most disciplined East Asian person's gymnastics and/or Martial Arts training. These guys get their technique down to a science. They tend to be blessed with good cerebral skills as fighters/gymnasts with footwork and hand-eye coordination anyway. Don't count whites out in these areas either though.

    Whites TEND to have the quickest first few steps amongst the elite athletes and best strength overall in my view.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  17. StarWars

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    Yes, if only we supported our athletes in America the things we could do...I know so many talented white people that give up because nobody believes in them. They say that is when true champions shine, in a dark weightroom unnoticed, but I am afraid that is not the case. You have to believe you can accomplish great things beefore you do so.
     
  18. Feng_Nguyen

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    i seen men kill before always using dragon palm always white man always have big nose


    many sailer from america not do nice to hongkong woman this make street machess


    black man white man all sailer from america all not do nice to hongkong woman.


    hongkong man do kung fu to nose sailer die one two times


    always palm strike dragon deliver. black man sailer he get knockout I see but him not die him only with arms out strate from baCK but knockout


    white man die two times alll them have big nose


    black man he have nose flat like asias
     
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    Was that a limerick? [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Riggins, you fell for it!
     
  21. Feng_Nguyen

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    white man have bigger and stronger but have many presure point weakness.
    nose and adam neck aple more suseptible to crush, and chin always weak for whites.
    asia man better pouind for pouind fighter in the world. only they are small.
    but poind for pouind asia man better.
    this we see agin resently. agin and agin we see, if size is same for asia vs white fighter.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqzA9TycW-Y&feature=related
     
  22. StarWars

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    Naturally the smallest races will make the best pound for pound fighters. In my opinion Japanese athletes are probably the most athletic of the Asians. Manny Pacman of the Phillipines is a beast; good guy too. He and Joe calzaghe were the two best pound for pound fighters too. Mayweather and Roy Jones Jr. are overrated pussies, And Wlad and Vitali are forces.

    Asians are the best weightlifters at the smaller weights, and whites for the middle to bigger weights. The strongest men in general are always white, especially of Slavic or Northern European descent. Yet still blacks have the stereotype of being the "strongest and toughest."
     
  23. StarWars

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    But I think you are confusing a little pound for poound and size. If an asian boxer tried to fight at 220 lbs theyd get their ass kicked. Races are best at their average size for the most part. Plus Joe Calzaghe is probably the best pound for pound small fighter ever.
     
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    ...And Fedor is the best P4P MMA fighter ever![​IMG]
     
  25. Feng_Nguyen

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    in tournament compitition big white man win every time almost every time
    in real life sitation on street maches asia man win every time
    too many death blows asia man can use
    can dragon palm strike to nose cause death for big white
    can mantid strike adam neckaple. white neckaple very big. vonnerble to crush. white man need hole in neck to breath.
    these blows all illegle for tounament compitition.
    on street no matter who is bigger. small asia man destroy oponent sometime kill oponent. this i have done.
    streets in hongkong very very bad. very bad place.



     

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