GGG vs Canelo

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  1. white is right

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    Yes this is why there are so many draws in these mega fights because everybody can sort of go home happy and the boxing public can demand a rematch.
     
  2. limitless

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    It continues the elevation of Floyd Mayweather who beat Canelo. It also elevates Floyd because now there is a mark on GGG's record. It stops GGG from setting records for defending the middleweight title.
     
  3. limitless

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    GGG pushed Canelo back the entire fight, landed more punches and controlled the fight. It was close, but a clear win for GGG. I'm pissed. They screwed Kovalev, now Golovkin. Next up, Loma.
     
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    Protect Hopkin's legacy. Did he beat his record of middleweight title defenses or not yet?
     
  5. Charles Martel

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    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
    Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
    James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
    Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
    Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

    CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
    CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
    CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds
     
  6. Charles Martel

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    Perhaps she's some combination of racist, incompetent and corrupt?
     
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    Corrupt and/or incompetent.
     
  9. Westside

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    Her sole purpose was to protect Hopkins title defenses. She could not even make it plausible. Just a dumb typical black person. Gladly it will not stop GGG's title defense march toward breaking the record.
     
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  12. white is right

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    Yes point taken in the rematch GGG will be one away from tying the all time record. I just hope GGG gets better compensation for this fight as anything can happen in the rematch. GGG is clearly not as good as he was a few years back as his shots are slower.

    This bs decision could be potentially legacy costing if GGG ages further in the rematch.
     
  13. Westside

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    GGG has to insist that the rematch be in Europe or Russia with judges from said continent or country. Enough of stacking the deck against the foreign fighter like last night and in Kovalev's matches against dirty Ward. It has to stop.
     
  14. Riggins44

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    Just watched the fight on Youtube. I gave Alvarez Rounds 1,2, and 12. I gave Golovkin rounds 5-11, though I can see how someone could give Alvarez 11. Rounds 3 and 4 I would give to GGG though I can see how one of them could go for Canelo. I would say GGG won at least 7 rounds, maybe as many as 9. He should have won by at least 115-113. 116-112 is probably the correct score.
     
  15. GiovaniMarcon

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    Pretty close fight, but I think GGG took it. It was really impressive in that whatever offense Canelo did have, when he did land a good shot, 3G just LOLed at it. GGG was hitting Canelo a lot but missing a lot, too.

    Overall, GGG won clearly. I say this as a highly-qualified nobody sitting at home watching on TV haha.

    If they really want to call it a draw I can see how you can mental-gymnastics that, although even that is BS.

    But 118 to 110 is clearly fraud.

    If GGG were only 30 I'd welcome the rematch because he's still prime Golovkin.

    He's still a young guy at 35 but boxing is a really young guy's sport and he'll be fighting the clock as well as Canelo in the rematch.

    It's just like Kovalev versus Ward. Kovalev clearly won the first fight but was robbed and in the second fight he was mentally under a lot more pressure.

    At least GGG didn't take the L and he's still officially unbeaten. I was hoping he would win this last fight and retire, but now he has to fight at least one more.

    It all seems to be a big scam from that f@g De La Hoya.
     
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    Max Kellerman seems like one of those creeps in a gym lockerroom who tries to talk to the other guys who just want to shower and go the f**k home.
     
  17. Westside

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    Great graphic. It puts things into perspective.
     
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    Canelo is whiter than GGG.
     
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    As far as I watched that I agreed with Atlas. Atlas, a criminal himself, reminds me of Monk Eastman who led the Eastman gang around the turn of the 19th-20th centuries in NYC. Atlas is Jewish and Eastman may have been Jewish too tho that's controversial. Most of the Eastman gang were, though.

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    Canelo's rep amongst Mexicans tanked. They didn't like the way he retreated all night and they didn't like the arrogant post-fight interview he gave, to Li'l Bugeyes I guess it was. That's what I've been reading anyway. I don't really know because I didn't have a good connection. I used the one I posted on here since my others - the ones I PM'd people - were KO'd as soon as the fight started. It had no sound and the video kept skipping so I'm not really qualified to give my opinion on the decision, except of course the stupid negress was on the take and too stupid to be subtle about it, and so is just about everyone in that so called city, that even calls itself "sin city". They're proud of being crooked.
     
  25. Westside

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    Being reading the comments of various articles on the fight. I would 98%+ are pissed off at the judges, Golden Boy and Canela. They are agreed that GGG was robbed of his victory on paper. Now GGG will be fighting father time and crooked Vegas. But the lure will be money. His management needs to make demands on Golden Boy for change.
     

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