English Premier League White-Black Ratios: 2011-2012

[Porthos]

I can understand you being annoyed at Australians of Croatian descent for preferring their old country...

However the impression is that these "ethnics" were really the only ones who cared about football Down Under while the Anglo-Saxon element snubbed that sport alltogether (and continues to do so, by and large). Now that the ethnics are out of the picture, the stadiums are hopelessly empty.
Even the supporters I see look mostly like emasculated left leaning "metrosexuals" for whom "soccer" is fashionable. Probably the type of "fan" Lowy and his ilk are trying to attract, now that they sent the working class the way of the dodo. We have some similar yuppie fans here in the US (Portland / Seattle come to mind).

By the way - the Australian Team that eliminated Croatia from the 2006 World Cup read almost like a random page from a Zagreb phone book - Culina, Popovic, Viduka (captain and one of the best players ever to come out of Australia IMO), Skoko, Covic, Kalac... All Croatian "traitors"...

 

[Rebajlo]

Rebajlo, How do the English and French leagues compare in Rugby?

Europe - That depends on which version of rugby we are talking about. In the case of Rugby League (the code I referred to in my above post and the most popular "winter" sport in New South Wales and Queensland) the English competition is unquestionably far stronger. The otherwise all-English Super League actually includes one French club, Catalans Dragons (similarly, the Australian NRL includes the Auckland-based New Zealand Warriors).

In the more widely popular Rugby Union, however, things are a lot more even. If we use performances in the Heineken Cup (which may be viewed as the European rugby equivalent of the Champions League) as a yardstick, English teams have won six championships to the French teams' five, but the French have the edge in runners up poistions to the tune of nine to four.

As things go, the Irish sides Leinster and Munster have been dominant in recent seasons, winning four of the last six Heineken Cup finals...

 

[Rebajlo]

However the impression is that these "ethnics" were really the only ones who cared about football Down Under while the Anglo-Saxon element snubbed that sport alltogether (and continues to do so, by and large). Now that the ethnics are out of the picture, the stadiums are hopelessly empty.

There is no doubt that the mainstream Australian media displays a blatant anti-soccer bias, largely based on a determination to protect the primacy of the “native†sports of Aussie Rules, rugby league, rugby union, and cricket but part of which also stems from the popular notion that the sport in this country was established, developed and supported exclusively by non-Anglo-Celtic “ethnics†of Balkan / Mediterranean provenance. This, of course, isn’t completely true as soccer was always popular among English, Scottish and other northern and central European migrants.

The majority of the Australian team at the 1974 World Cup was British-born or “Anglo†Australian, especially the players who actually received game time. Peter Wilson, Ray Richards, Adrian Alston, and Peter Ollerton were born in England while Jack Reilly, Jimmy Mackay, and Jimmy Rooney were born in Scotland. Colin Curran, Johnny Warren and the aboriginal Harry Williams were Australian-born. The only non-Anglo-Celtic players to see any match time were Dragan “Doug†Utjesenovic (Serbian), Branko Buljevic (Croatian), Manfred Schaeffer (German), and Attila Abonyi (Hungarian). Looking at the entire picture, only four of the 22 man squad were of “Yugoslavian†extraction. :lightbulb:

Plenty of “ethnicâ€-based football clubs were established in Australia during the post-war migration period and - contrary to popular belief - not all of them were founded by Croatians, Serbs, Greeks, and Italians. For example, there were also Dutch, Hungarian, Polish, Czech, and German clubs but, with the passage of a relatively short period of time, these people and their children assimilated with Anglo-Celtic Australians, consequently weakening their organisations, often to the point of extinction, and thus relinquishing their visible influence on the sport.

The Greeks, Italians and “Yugoslavsâ€, however, generally took the opposite path and actively maintained “separate†identities. A clannish attachment to their clubs meant that these organisations possessed a steady stream of income and outlived their “northern†European counterparts, eventually becoming the face of top-level Australian club football.

There was, of course, an ugly side to this face. Old World hatred and rivalries, such as those between Croatians and Serbs, were transplanted to Australia, manifesting themselves in brawls between mutually antagonistic sets of supporters. Such ethnic violence did more to damage soccer’s reputation in Australia than anything else and provided a conveniently easy excuse for the media to belittle the sport. Clubs like Sydney Croatia, Melbourne Croatia, South Melbourne Hellas, Sydney Olympic, Preston Macedonia, Marconi, Brunswick Juventus, and Heidelberg Alexander became symbols of social dissonance, monuments to the worrying existence of virulently unassimilated ethnic enclaves whose allegiance to Australia was at best questionable. Australians saw people dressed in the colours of other nations, proudly waving foreign flags and rabidly singing the praises of these countries in alien tongues – all in all, a public relations disaster for the sport (and also, I may add, for the nationalities involved).

If we are talking attendance figures, Perth Glory joined the NSL in 1996 and attracted the largest and most vocal crowds in the competition, the overwhelming majority of their support being drawn from “Anglo†Australians and British ex-pats. This was due in large part to the club’s meticulously cultivated “non-ethnic†identity. In fact, the 1999/2000 grand final held at Perth’s Subiaco Oval, which the Glory lost on penalties following a 3-3 draw with the Wollongong Wolves (my now-defunct local club which, incidentally, was also “non ethnicâ€) set the all-time NSL attendance record of just over 43,000. The North Sydney-based Northern Spirit, another “non-ethnic†club which entered the NSL in 1998 also drew huge crowds by Australian standards before financial trouble set in, which caused them to fold at the end of the old competition’s final season.

By the way - the Australian Team that eliminated Croatia from the 2006 World Cup read almost like a random page from a Zagreb phone book - Culina, Popovic, Viduka (captain and one of the best players ever to come out of Australia IMO), Skoko, Covic, Kalac... All Croatian "traitors"...

Not quite true, mate. :icon_wink: The Australian team which played Croatia in the 2006 finals started three “Croatian-Australiansâ€, viz.: Mark Viduka, Jason Culina, and goalkeeper Zeljko “Spider†Kalac (who’s characteristically bumbling error gifted Croatia their second goal). The other “non-Anglo†starters were “Macedonian-Australian†Mile Sterjovski, “Italian-Australian†Vince Grella, and the half-Samoan Tim Cahill. The remaining five players were Harry Kewell, Scott Chipperfield, Craig Moore, Brett Emerton, and Lucas Neill.

If You wish to employ the phrase “Croatian traitorsâ€, how about raising the case of Josip Simunic, Croatia’s centre back in the abovementioned match? The Canberra-born Simunic was the beneficiary of a taxpayer-funded soccer scholarship at the Australian Institute of Sport, yet showed his gratitude by opting to represent Croatia.

But wait, there’s more, for the Croatian squad contained an additional two so-called “Croatian-Australiansâ€: Geelong-born reserve goalkeeper Joey Didulica and Sydney-born defender Anthony Seric, the latter having also benefitted from a taxpayer-funded AIS scholarship. Yes, very nice...

If we wish to dig even deeper into that particular Croatian squad, we can point to three other sons of Croatian immigrants who also displayed an admirable loyalty to their country of birth, in this case Germany: Ivan Klasnic and the Kovac brothers, Niko and Robert.

Towards the end of his time with Croatia Zagreb (that’s Dinamo Zagreb under one of its 1990s aliases) Mark (or Marko as he now called himself) Viduka was constantly booed by the fans because he had originally been personally recruited by the then-Croatian president Franjo Tudjman, whose popularity had subsequently plummeted. This expedited his transfer to Celtic. I recall seeing an interview with Viduka on Australian TV in which he discussed his shock at the constant heckling and stated that this was a shattering experience because he had grown up as and remained a “very Croatian oriented person†and “loved Croatiaâ€. That’s all very good, but it’s not what one wishes to hear from an Australian international...

Remember Ned Zelic? Well, when he was in dispute with Socceroos coach Frank Farina (a right tactical mastermind if ever I saw one...) before eventually refusing to play for Australia ever again he made many references to his “Croatian bloodâ€, the inference being that he would have preferred to play for Croatia. Yet again, that’s not what one expects from an Australian international. Now that he is retired, Zelic is a TV football pundit who conveniently acts the patriotic Australian (at least in front of the cameras...).

In conclusion, let me repeat that it is not my intention to offend anyone. If my words have offended anyone, well, please accept my humblest apologies...

 

[Rebajlo]

Just a little tip for everyone..

As You may have noticed, my post above was quite long and, part of the way through, I got up to, er, answer the proverbial "call of nature" and took some time to have a drink and generally stuff around.

I returned after a while and finished the post, the little yellow "auto saved" notice kicking in regularly. When I clicked on to "Submit Reply", the system informed me that I had been logged out! When I logged back in again, my post had disappeared and could not be recovered. Thankfully, I had copied and pasted the thing into a Word document prior to the attempted posting (which is a habit of mine), so I simply pasted it back in (after unloading a bucketload of imprecations and shaking a fist at the computer, of course).

So the tip is: if You are composing a post and feel the need to wander off for a while, always copy what You have written into a Word document - just in case things go awry...

 

[frederic38]

liverpool beat manchester united in cup, at anfield 2-1
carroll has been very important, the goal of the victory came on a wonderfull headed pass to kuyt, and a bad placing from evra (who has been booed)

in 3 days, they beat manchester city and manchester united

 

[Realgeorge]

Rebajlo and friends: Excellent thread on the tragedy of English football. Before about 1980, I would race to see an English football game, when available on pre-Cable and satellite TV. Now the UK teams are so filled with Negroes that it's just not English anymore. The quality of play certainly has declined.

Now I race to see any Irish hurling match I can find, because those teams are largely devoid of Negroes. Funny how Irish hurling is practically banned from the sports airwaves.

 

[frederic38]

a liverpool fan arrested for a racist gesture:

http://www.clickliverpool.com/news/...e-gesture-at-liverpool-v-man-utd--match-.html

rebajlo, you mentionned twitter in the "happy hour" section, and look at this:

A Liverpool statement read: "Following today’s game we were made aware of an image being circulated on social media relating to an incident at this afternoon’s FA Cup tie.

"We are now working closely with Merseyside Police to establish the facts of what occurred and identify the individual involved.

"We would urge any of our supporters with any information to contact either the club or the police."

also in france a PSG suporter was arested for a nazi salute yesterday

 

[frederic38]

If we wish to dig even deeper into that particular Croatian squad, we can point to three other sons of Croatian immigrants who also displayed an admirable loyalty to their country of birth, in this case Germany: Ivan Klasnic and the Kovac brothers, Niko and Robert.

nationality shouldn't be determined by the country of birth, except for countries of the "new world"
a croatian born in germany is a croatian in my opinion
an italian born in france is an italian also, according to me

jus soli didn't exist in germany until 2000, it's a total nonsense and an insult to the local people

it doesn't mean that they can't live there, but they shouldn't have the same rights than the local people

 

[frederic38]

victory 3-0 of liverpool, with a goal of carroll, against wolverhampton
meanwhile, chelsea did a disapointing draw against swansea
so liverpool is now 4 points away from the 4th place

the next matches will be crucial
the next 4 matches will be against tottenham, manchester united, everton, and arsenal

i think suarez will be back for those matches (he will make his return in the next match i think)


also, gareth bale scored his 9th and 10th goal in premier league this season, impressive
it seems that he really plays as a middlefielder now (assou ekoto is the fullback i think)

 

[frederic38]

also in france a PSG suporter was arested for a nazi salute yesterday

just to show how france is doomed, the suporter arrested for a nazi salute was arab (from magreb)

http://www.ouest-france.fr/actu/act...n-interpelle_-2037840------29019-aud_actu.Htm

L’individu, qui est d’origine maghrébine (!), a été placé en garde à vue.

 

[Rebajlo]

Rebajlo and friends: Excellent thread on the tragedy of English football. Before about 1980, I would race to see an English football game, when available on pre-Cable and satellite TV. Now the UK teams are so filled with Negroes that it's just not English anymore. The quality of play certainly has declined.

Realgeorge - Thanks for the kinds words, mate.


Here are the breakdowns from the midweek round.

Swansea City 1 Chelsea 1

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 6 blacks

CHELSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks* *Ashley Cole sent off after 86'

Tottenham Hotspur 3 Wigan Athletic 1

SPURS:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-mestizo (Chilean Jean Beausejour)
Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-mestizo

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 Liverpool 3

WOLVES:

Started: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black

Everton 1 Manchester City 0

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan

MAN. CITY:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian

Manchester United 2 Stoke City 0

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Asian

STOKE:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Aston Villa 2 Queens Park Rangers 2

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

QPR:

Started: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Jew (I technically cannot count London-born Hogan Ephraim as an "Israeli")

Blackburn Rovers 0 Newcastle United 2

BLACKBURN:

Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Bolton Wanderers 0 Arsenal 0

BOLTON:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Turk

ARSENAL:

Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Fulham 1 West Bromwich Albion 1

FULHAM:

Started: 11 Whites (3 Englishmen)
Finished: Unchanged ratio

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Sunderland 3 Norwich City 0

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 Asian

NORWICH:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 149 (67.727 %) - Englishmen: 49 (22.272 %)

Blacks: 61 (27.727 %)

Other non-Whites: 10 (4.545 %)

23 goals (Whites: 11; blacks: 8; 4 own goals scored by Whites)

 

[Rebajlo]

nationality shouldn't be determined by the country of birth, except for countries of the "new world"
a croatian born in germany is a croatian in my opinion
an italian born in france is an italian also, according to me

jus soli didn't exist in germany until 2000, it's a total nonsense and an insult to the local people

it doesn't mean that they can't live there, but they shouldn't have the same rights than the local people

frederic38 - The subjects of jus soli and jus sanguinis are rather thorny - as this is a website which promotes White unity, I'd rather not enter into a discussion about such things... :icon_wink:

In any case, I only raised the issue of integration as Porthos posed a question about the compulsory removal of "ethnic" components of clubs' names in Australia and the relevant fans' subsequent reaction...

 

[Rebajlo]

Seven matches last night.

Arsenal 7 Blackburn Rovers 1

ARSENAL:

Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Israeli

BLACKBURN:

Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites* (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks *Gael Givet sent off after 43'

Norwich City 2 Bolton Wanderers 0

NORWICH:

Started: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

BOLTON:

Started:6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Turk

Queens Park Rangers 1 Wolverhampton Wanderers 2

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 3 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks*, 1 Arab *Djibril Cisse sent aff after 34'

WOLVES:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Stoke City 0 Sunderland 1

STOKE:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites* (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks *Robert Huth sent off after 44'

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab

West Bromwich Albion 1 Swansea City 2

WEST BROM:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Wigan Athletic 1 Everton 1

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-mestizo
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-mestizo

EVERTON:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian

Manchester City 3 Fulham 0

MAN. CITY:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 half-Asian, 1 mestizo

FULHAM:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 11 Whites (1 Englishman)

Three red cards so far in this round...

 

[Rebajlo]

The remaining three matches of the last round:

Newcastle United 2 Aston Villa 1

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Chelsea 3 Manchester United 3

CHELSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian

Liverpool 0 Tottenham Hotspur 0

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks (remember, Suarez is now counted as a black...)

SPURS:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 142 (64.545 %) - Englishmen: 48 (21.818 %)

Blacks: 69 (31.363 %)

Other non-Whites: 9 (4.09 %)

31 goals (Whites: 20; blacks: 8; 3 own goals scored by Whites)

 

[Rebajlo]

Sorry for the delay, lads. I've been a bit busy...

Manchester United 2 Liverpool 1

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: Unchanged ratio

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Blackburn Rovers 3 Queens Park Rangers 2

BLACKBURN:

Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

QPR:

Started: 3 Whites (1 Englishman), 7 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Bolton Wanderers 1 Wigan Athletic 2

BOLTON:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Turk

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-mestizo
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 black-mestizo

Everton 2 Chelsea 0

EVERTON:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan

CHELSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

Fulham 2 Stoke City 1

FULHAM:

Started: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

STOKE:

Started: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Sunderland 1 Arsenal 2

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

ARSENAL:

Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks

Swansea City 2 Norwich City 3

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (6 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Tottenham Hotspur 5 Newcastle United 0

SPURS:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 West Bromwich Albion 5

WOLVES:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black

WEST BROM:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Aston Villa 0 Manchester City 1

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished:Unchanged ratio

MAN. CITY:

Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 141 (64.90 %) - Englishmen: 52 (23.636 %)

Blacks: 71 (32.272 %)

Other non-Whites: 8 (3.636 %)

36 goals (Whites: 21; blacks: 13; 1 own goal scored by a White; 1 own goal scored by a black)

 

[Freethinker]

Queens Park looks to be the most heinous squad in the Premier League. Their manager must be snorting the cocoa powder and buying into the black athletic superiority myth. Too bad his squad is a bottom dwelling, talentless bunch. If the team is to struggle, then why not fill the roster with English players in an English league?:crazy:

Anyway, they are tied with the far Whiter Blackburn and Woverhampton for the final relegation spot. Let's hope they receive it.

 

[frederic38]

regarding QPR, they blackened even more during the winter transfer window
they bought 2 big failures, taiwo from ac milan, and cissé from lazio
in his second match with his new team, cissé made his team lose thanks to a red card for grabbing by the throat one of his oponents:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16890908

it was against wolverhampton, so they gifted 3 points to an important rival, it could be costly for them

 

[frederic38]

liverpool won their first trophee since 2006:
http://www.givemefootball.com/league-cup/gerrard-we-need-more-trophies

 

[Rebajlo]

Finally...here are the breakdowns from last weekend's matches (25th & 26th of February):

Chelsea 3 Bolton Wanderers 0

CHELSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

BOLTON:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Turk, 1 Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian

Newcastle United 2 Wolverhampton Wanderers 2

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese. 1 Arab

WOLVES:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Queens Park Rangers 0 Fulham 1

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks*, 1 Arab *Samba Diakite sent off after 33'

FULHAM:

Started: 10 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

West Bromwich Albion 4 Sunderland 0

WEST BROM:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Wigan Athletic 0 Aston Villa 0

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

Manchester City 3 Blackburn Rovers 0

MAN. CITY:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 half-Asian, 1 mestizo

BLACKBURN:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Arsenal 5 Tottenham Hotspur 2

ARSENAL:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Israeli
Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman*), 4 blacks *Harlow-born, half-Finnish Carl Jenkinson has represented both England and Finland at youth level

SPURS:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab

Norwich City 1 Manchester United 2

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (6 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (7 Englishmen), 2 blacks

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks

Stoke City 2 Swansea City 0

STOKE:

Started: 10 Whites (6 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 3 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

198 starters (Liverpool vs Everton postponed due to League Cup final)

Whites: 124 (62.626 %) - Englishmen: 44 (22.222 %)

Blacks: 65 (32.828 %)

Other non-Whites: 9 (4.545 %)

 

[Rebajlo]

Last weekend's matches (March 3rd & 4th). At least I've managed to squeeze this in before tonight's matches: :icon_grin:

Liverpool 1 Arsenal 2

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 10 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black

ARSENAL:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Israeli
Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen), 6 blacks

Blackburn Rovers 1 Aston Villa 1

BLACKBURN:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black

Manchester City 2 Bolton Wanderers 0

MAN. CITY:

Started: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo
Finished: 5 Whites (4 Englishmen), 6 blacks

BOLTON:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Queens Park Rangers 1 Everton 1

QPR:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

EVERTON:

Started: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Turk

Stoke City 1 Norwich City 0

STOKE:

Started: 10 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (6 Englishmen), 3 blacks

West Bromwich Albion 1 Chelsea 0

WEST BROM:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks

CHELSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Wigan Athletic 0 Swansea City 2

WIGAN:

Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 5 blacks* *Nathan Dyer sent off after 60'

Newcastle United 1 Sunderland 1

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese, 1 Arab

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites* (4 Englishmen*), 1 black* *Stephane Sessegnon (black), sent off after 58'; Lee Cattermole (Englishman) red-carded just after the final whistle

Fulham 5 Wolverhampton Wanderers 0

FULHAM:

Started: 10 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 Turk

WOLVES:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black

Tottenham Hotspur 1 Manchester United 3

SPURS:

Started: 2 Whites (No Englishmen), 8 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks, 1 Arab

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Asian

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 136 (61.818 %) - Englishmen: 52 (23.636 %)

Blacks: 72 (32.727 %)

Other non-Whites: 12 (5.454 %)

24 goals (Whites: 14; blacks: 9; 1 own goal scored by a White)

 

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Here is Wojciech Szczesny's penalty save from last week's match against Liverpool. Phenomenal stuff!

Note Luis Suarez's initial dive to "win" the penalty...

WOJCIECH SZCZESNY - PENALTY SAVE VS LIVERPOOL, 3rd MARCH 2012:

[video=youtube;_WXglwQwVyY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WXglwQwVyY&feature=related[/video]

 

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Bolton Wanderers 2 Queens Park Rangers 1

BOLTON:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 7 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks

Aston Villa 1 Fulham 0

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black

FULHAM:

Started: 10 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

Chelsea 1 Stoke City 0

CHELSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

STOKE:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks* *Ricardo Fuller sent off after 25'

Sunderland 1 Liverpool 0

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 11 Whites (5 Englishmen)

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 Blackburn Rovers 2

WOLVES:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

BLACKBURN:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Everton 1 Tottenham Hotspur 0

EVERTON:

Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan
Finished: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan

SPURS:

Started: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab

 

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Manchester United 2 West Bromwich Albion 0

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites* (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks *Jonas Olsson sent off after 66'

Swansea City 1 Manchester City 0

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

MAN. CITY:

Started: 3 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab

Norwich City 1 Wigan Athletic 1

NORWICH:

Started: 9 Whites (6 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

WIGAN:

Started: 5 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab
Finished: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab

 

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The round concluded with:

Arsenal 2 Newcastle United 1

ARSENAL:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 134 (60.909 %) - Englishmen: 48 (21.818 %)

Blacks: 74 (33.636 %)

Other non-Whites: 12 (5.454 %)

17 goals (Whites: 9; blacks: 7; Arabs: 1)


One "catch up" match was played on Tuesday, namely:

Liverpool 3 Everton 0

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 10 Whites (7 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (6 Englishmen), 1 black

EVERTON:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk

All three goals were scored by Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard.

Each club has now completed 28 games, which means there are 10 matches remaining with 30 points to play for...

 

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Here are the breakdowns from the last round, which was spread out over four days between the 17th and 21st of March. There were only nine matches, as the Aston Villa - Bolton Wanderers game was postponed because Bolton's (black) Fabrice Muamba had suffered a heart attack during the FA Cup tie against Spurs last Saturday.

Wigan Athletic 1 West Bromwich Albion 1

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-mestizo, 1 Arab

WEST BROM:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 11 Whites (4 Englishmen)

Fulham 0 Swansea City 3

FULHAM:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black, 1 Turk

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen, 2 Welshmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks

Newcastle United 1 Norwich City 0

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 quarter-Vietnamese

NORWICH:

Started: 9 Whites (6 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 Manchester United 5

WOLVES:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks* *Ronald Zubar sent off after 39’

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 2 mestizos

Blackburn Rovers 2 Sunderland 0

BLACKBURN:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 Asian

Queens Park Rangers 3 Liverpool 2

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 10 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 11 Whites (6 Englishmen)

Everton 0 Arsenal 1

EVERTON:

Started: 3 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian, 1 half-Samoan
Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian

ARSENAL:

Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 5 blacks

Tottenham Hotspur 1 Stoke City 1

SPURS:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: Unchanged ratio

STOKE:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black

Manchester City 2 Chelsea 1

MAN. CITY:

Started: 3 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

CHELSEA:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

198 starters

Whites: 123 (62.121 %) Englishmen: 44 (22.222 %)

Blacks: 62 (31.313 %)

Others: 13 (6.565 %)

24 goals (Whites: 16; blacks: 7; Arabs: 1)