English Premier League 2012-13

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
"which is funny because there are no good canadian players (the latest one i can remember was radzinsky, who played in belgium)"

Owen Hargreaves has to be the best Canadian player. He played fro England, but was born in Canada. He has to be at least one of the all time best Canadians.

yes, i really should have said heargreaves because after checking on his wikipedia page, it appears that radzinsky was polish and became canadian after playing in the canadian league
i had no idea
 

Matra2

Master
Joined
Jul 6, 2011
Messages
2,317
I've lived in Canada. Generally it is only good at sports played on ice or snow.:biggrin: In soccer their most successful players have been, Radzinsky, David Edgar (Newcastle, Swansea, and Burnley), Paul Peschisolido (Stoke City, West Brom), Dwayne DeRosario (DC United in MLS), the overrated Julian de Guzman (Deportivo La Coruna, Toronto FC), also overrated Atiba Hutchinson (Eindhoven, FC Copenhagen), and other than Hargreaves their best ever player John van Schip (left Canada when he was about 9) who played for the Dutch national team in Euro 1988, Italia 90, and Euro 1992.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_van_'t_Schip#International_career

Match of this weekend will be Chelsea with their new manager against Manchester City on Sunday.
 

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
I've lived in Canada. Generally it is only good at sports played on ice or snow.:biggrin: In soccer their most successful players have been, Radzinsky, David Edgar (Newcastle, Swansea, and Burnley), Paul Peschisolido (Stoke City, West Brom), Dwayne DeRosario (DC United in MLS), the overrated Julian de Guzman (Deportivo La Coruna, Toronto FC), also overrated Atiba Hutchinson (Eindhoven, FC Copenhagen), and other than Hargreaves their best ever player John van Schip (left Canada when he was about 9) who played for the Dutch national team in Euro 1988, Italia 90, and Euro 1992.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_van_'t_Schip#International_career

Match of this weekend will be Chelsea with their new manager against Manchester City on Sunday.

i posted an owngoal by hutchinson here: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...2013?p=258533&highlight=Hutchinson#post258533
so far that's pretty much the only canadian contribution to soccer here this year :biggrin:

i'm hoping for good results by chelsea, arsenal and liverpool :pray:
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Sunderland 2 West Bromwich Albion 4

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

WEST BROM:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew

Everton 1 Norwich City 1

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks,1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian
Finished: Unchanged ratio

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Manchester United 3 Queens Park Rangers 1

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo

QPR:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Stoke City 1 Fulham 0

STOKE:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

FULHAM:

Started: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 Iranian
Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Iranian

Wigan Athletic 3 Reading 2

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab

READING:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Aston Villa 0 Arsenal 0

VILLA:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

ARSENAL:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

Swansea City 0 Liverpool 0

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Israeli
Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Southampton 2 Newcastle United 0

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 4 Whites (1 englishman), 7 blacks

Chelsea 0 Manchester City 0

CHELSEA:

Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

MAN. CITY:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 half-Asian, 1 mestizo

Tottenham Hotspur 3 West Ham United 1

SPURS:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori
Finished: Unchanged ratio

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 151 (68.636 %) - Englishmen: 44 (20 %)

Blacks: 56 (25.454 %) - "English" blacks: 22 (10 %)

Other non-Whites: 13 (5.909 %)

24 goals (Whites: 17; blacks: 6; 1 own goal by an Arab)
 

Matra2

Master
Joined
Jul 6, 2011
Messages
2,317
WEST BROM:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew

At third in the EPL West Bromwich Albion are, after their fourth consecutive win, contenders for team of the year. They are certainly the surprise of the season. Given how small their budget is it's quite an accomplishment to be ahead of so many richer teams. Obviously they didn't need Roy Hodgson.
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Sunderland 0 Queens Park Rangers 0

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

QPR:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Asian

Aston Villa 1 Reading 0

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

READING:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Unfortunately, Villa's goal was scored by the black "Belgian" striker Christian Benteke... :mad2:


At third in the EPL West Bromwich Albion are, after their fourth consecutive win, contenders for team of the year. They are certainly the surprise of the season. Given how small their budget is it's quite an accomplishment to be ahead of so many richer teams. Obviously they didn't need Roy Hodgson.

Matra2 -

Well, not too many clubs require Hodgson's "services". Despite his own claims to the contrary, his overall record - with some Scandinavian exceptions - hasn't been all that impressive. He likes to point to his tenure with Switzerland as evidence of his top-draw coaching prowess, but the "Hodgson era" just happened to coincide with the best years of that nation's greatest ever crop of players: Stephane Chapuisat, Alain Sutter, Ciriaco Sforza, and Adrian Knup.

All in all, Hodgson isn't up to the task of managing teams which have high expectations. Given England's qualification group and how the matches have panned out thus far, making it to the 2014 World Cup finals shouldn't be a problem (although one never knows...). But beyond that I believe he'll be dumped from the job following an even more below-par than usual performance in Brazil. In my opinion, an increasingly black England playing a tournament in South America under "master coach" Hodgson are second round material at most.
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
The remainder of the mid-week matches:

Chelsea 0 Fulham 0

CHELSEA:

Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

FULHAM:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 Turk

Everton 1 Arsenal 1

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
Finished: Unchanged ratio

ARSENAL:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Southampton 1 Norwich City 1

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Asian

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Stoke City 2 Newcastle United 1

STOKE:


Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Swansea City 3 West Bromwich Albion 1

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks, 1 Asian

WEST BROM:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Tottenham Hotspur 2 Liverpool 1

SPURS:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

Manchester United 1 West Ham United 0

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori

Wigan Athletic 0 Manchester City 2

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: Unchanged ratio

MAN. CITY:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 half-Asian

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 144 (65.454 %) - Englishmen: 45 (20.454 %)

Blacks: 65 (29.545 %) - "English" blacks: 20 (9.09 %)

Other non-Whites: 11 (5 %)

18 goals (Whites: 7; blacks: 9; Arabs: 1; 1 own goal scored by a White)
 

Matra2

Master
Joined
Jul 6, 2011
Messages
2,317
He likes to point to his tenure with Switzerland as evidence of his top-draw coaching prowess, but the "Hodgson era" just happened to coincide with the best years of that nation's greatest ever crop of players: Stephane Chapuisat, Alain Sutter, Ciriaco Sforza, and Adrian Knup.

Yes, and even they received quite a hiding from a not particularly good Spanish team in the Second Round of the 1994 World Cup. To me Hodgson has always been a journeyman. That he has made it to England manager is quite funny, unless you're an England supporter.:biggrin: On a side note it wouldn't surprise me at all if does not actually speak all the languages commentators claim he is fluent in.

Arsenal's season is going down the tubes. Today they lost 0-2 at home to Swansea. According to news reports they are planning to spend a lot of money on new signings in the new year. I wonder who Wenger has in mind?
 

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
Arsenal's season is going down the tubes. Today they lost 0-2 at home to Swansea. According to news reports they are planning to spend a lot of money on new signings in the new year. I wonder who Wenger has in mind?


maybe a defensive middlefielder
song left and wasn't replaced
so yes, probably a black player
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
West Ham United 3 Chelsea 1

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori

CHELSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Arsenal 0 Swansea City 2

ARSENAL:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian

Fulham 0 Tottenham Hotspur 3

FULHAM:

Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black, 1 Turk, 1 Iranian
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 Iranian

SPURS:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Liverpool 1 Southampton 0

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Asian

Manchester City 1 Everton 1

MAN. CITY:

Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian

Queens Park Rangers 1 Aston Villa 1

QPR:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 Asian

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab

West Bromwich Albion 0 Stoke City 1

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 4 blacks

STOKE:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Reading 3 Manchester United 4

READING:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Norwich City 2 Sunderland 1

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Newcastle United play Wigan Athletic tonight...
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Yes, and even they received quite a hiding from a not particularly good Spanish team in the Second Round of the 1994 World Cup. To me Hodgson has always been a journeyman.

Matra2 -

Football management is a strange "profession". Men with patently disastrous records are often employed by club after club, presiding over predictably bad transfers, predictably bad tactics and otherwise preventable relegations, yet still "earning" buckets of money for years or even decades of failure. The lower leagues are full of such wastes of space, who are major contributors to the parlous state in which English football finds itself.

Of the better-known names, just think Mick McCarthy, Roy McFarland, and Bryan Robson...


Matra2 said:
Arsenal's season is going down the tubes. Today they lost 0-2 at home to Swansea. According to news reports they are planning to spend a lot of money on new signings in the new year. I wonder who Wenger has in mind?

frederic38 said:
so yes, probably a black player

It's unfortunate that a "whiter" Arsenal has thus far failed to deliver the goods. I can imagine the lagered-up Arsenal "faithful" reminiscing about the days when their team was loaded with "black talent" and blaming everything on an oversupply of "slow white geezers".

The worst thing would be if Wenger signs a Negro or two, puts them straight into the starting eleven and Arsenal begin to win more matches and move up the table, such a distasteful turn of events inevitably providing additional fuel for the great "caste" furnace...
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Newcastle United 3 Wigan Athletic 0

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 7 blacks

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks*, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab *Maynor Figueroa sent off after 12'

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 137 (62.272 %) - Englishmen: 42 (19.09 %)

Blacks: 67 (30.454 %) - "English" blacks: 23 (10.454 %)

Other non-Whites: 16 (7.272 %)

28 goals (Whites: 14; blacks: 12; mestizos: 1; Arabs: 1)
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Arsenal 2 West Bromwich Albion 0

ARSENAL:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks

Aston Villa 0 Stoke City 0

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

STOKE:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks* *Ryan Shotton sent off after 75'

Southampton 1 Reading 0

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 8 Whites (6 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Asian

READING:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 6 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks

Sunderland 1 Chelsea 3

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

CHELSEA:

Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Swansea City 3 Norwich City 4

SWANSEA:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli

NORWICH:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Wigan Athletic 2 Queens Park Rangers 2

WIGAN:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab

QPR:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
 
Joined
Oct 24, 2012
Messages
1,779
P2CQu.gif



fluffedshot1.gif



Horrible misses by "Gervinho",the worst player in the PL.
(Apologies if the images above are a bit crude,I made them myself,after a lot of work).
 

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
wow, thanks for these GIF
i watched the match and gervinho was very annoying, as always

compare it with podolsky's volley in champions league this season:

1353532460935.gif
 
Joined
Oct 24, 2012
Messages
1,779
wow, thanks for these GIF
You're welcome,but your gifs are more polished.I've ripped the above two from a youtube video,so quality suffers. Here's one I plucked from a blog:




tikitaka.gif





Take note Chelsea,this is what you get with a white midfield. I honestly think that if Chelsea could replace Mikel,Ramires with two decent players who can actually play football,they'd be a great team. Mikel especially is a very poor footballer.But most sports "experts" oversee his poor footballing ability as he is a "defensive midfielder" and praise him for being strong,athletic,the usual....blah,blah,blah.
 

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
You're welcome,but your gifs are more polished.I've ripped the above two from a youtube video,so quality suffers.

yes, they are polished because i didn't do them myself, i don't know how to make them

here a miss from this start of the season i found and mertesacker's reaction:


iFCvsg2csLeew.gif
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Manchester City 2 Manchester United 3

MAN. CITY:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Asian, 1 mestizo

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 mestizo

Everton 2 Tottenham Hotspur 1

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 small-part Indonesian

SPURS:

Started: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 8 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (No Englishmen), 6 blacks

West Ham United 2 Liverpool 3

WEST HAM:

Started: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Fulham 2 Newcastle United 1

FULHAM:


Started: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 Iranian

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 140 (63.636 %) - Englishmen: 45 (20.454 %)

Blacks: 68 (30.909 %) - "English" blacks: 23 (10.454 %)

Other non-Whites: 12 (5.454 %)

34 goals (Whites: 23; blacks: 8; Arabs: 1; 2 own goals scored by Whites)


One "catch up" match (from several rounds back) played last night:

Sunderland 3 Reading 0

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks

READING:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Sunderland's goals were scored by James McClean, Steven Fletcher (both White) and the black Stephane Sessegnon...
 

Europe

Mentor
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Messages
1,642
Chelsea had 9 whites starting against Monterrey in the World Club CUP. 2 more white players were substituted. Cahill started and Lampard came on in the 2nd half. Cole and Mikel were the black players. Terry is still injured.
 

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Newcastle United 1 Manchester City 3

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

MAN. CITY:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 half-Asian

Liverpool 1 Aston Villa 3

LIVERPOOL:

Started:8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

VILLA:

Started: 10 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

Manchester United 3 Sunderland 1

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 5 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Norwich City 2 Wigan Athletic 1

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab

Queens Park Rangers 2 Fulham 1

QPR:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

FULHAM:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 Iranian

Stoke City 1 Everton 1

STOKE:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
 

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
arsenal have a good oportunity of climbing up in the table
they'll play at reading and at wigan before christmas, and then they'll play against west ham at home the day after christmas
now that they qualified for the next round of the champions league and that they got the carling cup out of the picture, they can focus on those important matches
i hope that they'll start with a win at reading
i also hope that gervinho will feel comfortable on the bench
 

frederic38

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Messages
4,774
Location
france-grenoble
Especially glad to see them do this against Reading, another QPR like African import team with zero talent.

what a surprise to see these 2 teams struggling, QPR with "world class" "striker" :undecided: djibril cissé:

cissé.jpg


http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...lack-attackers?p=263440&viewfull=1#post263440

and reading with so many internationals in their starting 11: a malian international, barbudan and jamaican internationals, and so on :hail::afro:

now i want a victory for arsenal before christmas against wigan
they can go back in the top 4, where they belong, instead of the tottenham coal factory (the only reason why tottenham is 4th right now is because they don't play champions league, unlike arsenal who focused on qualifying for the next round of champions league)
 
Last edited:

Rebajlo

Mentor
Joined
Nov 9, 2009
Messages
1,521
Location
N.S.W. - Australia
Matches played on Sunday, 16th December and Monday, 17th December:

Tottenham Hotspuer 1 Swansea City 0

SPURS:

Started: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 8 blacks
Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 7 blacks

SWANSEA:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks

West Bromwich Albion 0 West Ham United 0

WEST BROM:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Reading 2 Arsenal 5

READING:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks

ARSENAL:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

198 starters (Chelsea vs Southampton postponed)

Whites: 124 (62.626 %) - Englishmen: 35 (17.676 %)

Blacks: 64 (32.323 %) - "English" blacks: 23 (11.616 %)

Other non-Whites: 10 (5.05 %)

28 goals (Whites: 17; blacks: 8; Arabs: 2; 1 own goal scored by a White)
 
Top