Election 2004

[white lightning]

So lets take a poll guys.Who are you for,Bush or Kerry.
Both guys obviously have their good points and bad points.I could put a spin on both but I still think that
any vote is better than no vote.With that being said,I
am leaning towards Kerry.I am more scared with the economy,social security,illegal immigration,etc. than
with just the military view of Bush.Who are you guys
going to vote for?

 

[right winger]

I'm voting for Michael Peroutka of the Constitution Party. Nader is also a good choice. Bush is the worst president in U.S. history, but Kerry would be more of the same, except he might not antagonize the entire world into hating America like Bush so effortlessly has.

This country is not a democracy, it is a closed one-party system with two nearly identical wings controlled by the same powers-that-be. Without the development of new parties America is doomed.

 

[JD074]

In my mind, there are only two options: vote for a third
party candidate, or don't vote at all. Any vote for Bush
or Kerry reinforces the status quo.

I don't toe the party line that states that someone
who doesn't vote is necessarily lazy and stupid. I
was going to vote for Badnarik of the Libertarian
Party, but now I'm leaning towards not voting at all. I
disagree with all the people who are "tirelessly
urging" and guilt-tripping us to vote. What they're
saying is that voting for president is immensely
important. But should it be? Voting for president
shouldn't be so important because presidents (and
all politicians) shouldn't be so important. They
shouldn't have such an enormous capacity to control
our lives. So, for me personally, not voting is a vote
for my principles! That would probably sound weird
to a lot of people.

The less that people vote in general- and for Bush or
Kerry in particular- the better. We need as many
people who don't believe in the political process as
possible. Is it really legitimate to vote for who is
going to do "the best job" at trying to control our
personal lives, society, and economy? I want to
remove myself as much as possible from a political
system that is trying to control me and everyone else.
That will probably include not voting.

But if someone wants to vote, definitely vote third
party. And don't believe the crap about it being a
"wasted vote." People who think that don't
understand that a person who votes third party is not
doing so because he thinks that that candidate will
win. He does so because of his principles. So he's
clearly not "throwing his vote away". He's stating his
convictions instead of just trying to pick the winner.

 

[jaxvid]

re: third party votes. For most people their vote is meaningless in that the state in which they live is leaning strongly one way or the other (Rep or Dem) so the advantage of a third party vote is that it is a much larger percentage of the votes cast for a candidate and thus has more value. It is also a signal to the major parties that they lost a voter because they did not offer something that voter wanted. I also agree that not voting is a viable alternative in that it is essentially a vote for "none of the above". However make no mistake the "get out the vote" campaign is aimed entirely at potential Democratic voters--minorities and youth. Republicans vote, so things like motor-voter laws are aimed at pumping up votes for Dems.

 

[bjan]

I like two third party candidates, Michael Badnarik, and Michael Peroutka.I saw Mr. Peroutka put himself in a uncomfortable situation on c-span on Sunday. He was being interviewed by a black moderator in Washington D.C.,and the topic was "bad neighborhoods"."Not that this is a bad neighborhood" he said, of D.C.without even being prodded.Of course it is! He then said,"all races are the same,the human race".As more black moderators come on the scene,to interview whites,it seems the whites fall all over themselves trying to say what blacks want to hear.Perhaps this is a subliminal method being used to keep whites off balance.

 

[right winger]

Four more years of Bush and the neocons. . . can America survive it?

 

[Guest]

Joseph Sobran......this is how it works, if they're on TV, they're bought and paid for. the people that can help are either in jail for being patriots or they can't raise enough money to compete and or they have been killed. our President answers to a higher power and i'm not talking God.

 

[JD074]

Bin Laden now claims that he is using the war on
terror as a means to bankrupt America, like with
Russia when they fought Afghanistan. So maybe
that's what we have to look forward to....

 

[jaxvid]

The choice was Bush or Kerry, period. Did anyone really think our point of view would be BETTER off with Kerry?

 

[Colonel Callan]

Bush and Kerry serve the same masters. I'm in CA, so we already know the state is the land version of the Titanic. I voted for Peroutka. I think turnout was high because a lot of whites are becoming aware - on a superficial level - that there really are anti-white forces at work. However, they don't have the knowledge, the awareness, to realize that the Republican party isn't really for whites. They just think it is right now. A few more years of amnesty and other traitorous acts against whites are going to help the coming collapse hit, big time. It's going to be messy and cruel, but in the end, whites will emerge on top. It's too bad that so many whites are going to have to learn painful, tragically hard lessons before the collapse, and at the beginning of the collapse, in order for their thinking to correct itself.

 

[white lightning]

Very interesting post C. Callan.I agree with you that the US is going to be in for one hell of a wakeup call
in the near future.If you had to pick either side which
is hard to do,who would you lean towards?As you said,I
believe alot of whites lean towards the Republicans.

 

[JD074]

I agree, Colonel, white conservatives are
brainwashed into thinking that the Republican Party-
and Bush specifically- are on their side. Why,
because he's a "born again Christian"? On
television they are saying that the main reason why
people voted for Bush is because of "morals/
values". What a fraud. He makes a few token
conservative stances, like gay marriage and stem
cell research, and then spits in the face of so many
other conservative principles. What about what he
said before the 2000 election about "small
government", and saying that he doesn't want a
government to run our lives? All lies, of course. He's
ballooning the government, he's recklessly spending
our money, he hired John Ashcroft, he implemented
the Patriot Act, he's needlessly waging war against a
sovereign nation- all travesties against traditional
conservative principles. He's a traitor to
conservatives.

It used to be that conservatives were anti-war, and
Democrat/ liberal do-gooders, like FDR, were the
ones that wanted to go to war in order to police the
world. Conservatives were the isolationists that
didn't want to meddle in other countries' affairs. Now
we see conservatives with their phony gung ho
machismo and total willingness to stick their noses
in other countries' business and bully sovereign
nations. "Yeah we're tough, we're gonna kill all them
Arab terrorists." Yeah right. You'll fail. You can't
outlast the Arabs. They'll fight you for hundreds of
years if they have to. But we'll bankrupt ourselves
long before then, just like Bin Laden wants.