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Discussion in 'Happy Hour' started by jaxvid, Sep 23, 2009.
Cheap date anyway, she's already drunk and paid for her own seat!
If she had worn an old Mike Furrey jersey instead, my opinion of her would have been more favorable.
We've talked about this jersey thing before. I don't think many black women, if any, would wear a Jeremy Shockey jersey in public or at a football game. NO, the sisters and brothers in particular would set her straight. Edited by: Bart
Well I see very few black women wear any jerseys compared to white women, and the ones that do yes they will 99% of the time be black players. Whites, men or women, will gladly wear black players jerseys. Every time I see a Patriots jersey that starts with "8..." I'm hoping it's 83, but nope 90% 81 for Randy Moss. I've only seen Welker a few times.
Whats funny is that there's a couple white players jersey that I have seen blacks where on more than one occasion. I've seen them where Brett Farve and Tom Brady. Now a black person wearing a Hillis Broncos jersey, that would be something else!!!
So what if she was drunk. She said the black guy touched her is some way and was pissed off. I don't reflexively defend blacks because I know how many of them act. This guy never sat down - she did. She got pissed off again and got back up. A black guy posturing to a cute white girl is unacceptable no matter how drunk the girl is. That's my opinion. Take a look at the video and how his is taunting her and never sits down. You don't think this guy was flirting with her earlier in the way black guys always do? And when she shut him down, do you think he kept his mouth shut? Nobody knows what precipitated the conflict but at the very least both should have been removed. He was acting like a clown also even though he appeared sober.
Sorry fellas, but that " lady" does not help our cause. She looks like a stranger in a strange land and truly should not have put herself in such a compromising situation. All she has done was provide grist for the internet intellectuals to use against her kind. On a side note, is it possible that she and the gentlemanly, young negro were together, as they both were wearing exact jerseys. Perhaps there is some mud sharking/love issues which reared up during the game and we are only privy to the last stages of a love match gone wrong (as they seem to do in blended relationships.)
Sorry, cowardly whites is all I saw. No wonder they're stealing our women. No one in the video even had the guts to step in and tell the negroes to back-off as she was being cuffed. The crowd would use any excuse to sit on their hands and do nothing - so of course they reflexively blame the white girl - it keeps them from having to admit that they have no testicles.
Did the black fellow really get beer poured on him? I doubt it. Who smiles and taunts after a beer is purposely spilled on them. Notice how orginally the black guys think they are in trouble when security is getting called. The brutha almost sits down and even shuts-up for a moment. That all disappeared when typical DWF pretends to have testicles as he screams at the women. That was a free pass signal to home boy.
Who cares what jersey she was wearing? She probably didn't even buy it and probably has no idea who it is anyway. Try going to a store and finding one Jersey of a white player from Detroit - mission impossible. We of all people should rid ourselves of the reflex to cower and find excuses to NOT defend our own race - drunk or not. Lets face it plenty of drunk white women that did not have it coming have been assualted by negroes.
At the very least I am with Jaxvid on this one. Talk about a golden opportunity to defend a beautiful white women and win her favor. I know some of you guys would never go after someone who dared drinking at a ball game. Whatever. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
Yeah exactly how I saw it too.
The only uniform she had on to me was her white skin. But this is a typical example of white solidarity vs non-white solidarity. Nothing new, that's why were in the fix we're in, blacks will defend murderers, rapists, thugs, instinctively, just because they are black but whites....? Any reason to toss a fellow white overboard because they don't measure up to some high standard of "whiteness", drunk, skank, trailer trash, blah blah, marching off to extinction one at a time, at least we're not on the same side as drunk slutty white woman!
Yeah, I'm with Jaxvid and Kaptain Poop. She is a good looking white woman, against a black guy. When we as a race don't have the auto-sympathetic nature that other races have due to white guilt and a lack of testicles in today's America, we lose. We must support our own, and have as many children as possible. She was acting like an idiot, but I don't know the full story, so until then, I'm with the white chick. And oh yes, it is becasue she is white. That is good enough reason.
The biggest problem I see with the video is lack of information. What if the black guy is her boyfriend? And not only her bf, but she initiated the argument? The video joins the incident in the middle of it, it's tough to have sympathy for anyone involved as far as I'm concerned without knowing more.
I guess I'm confused as to what I'm supposed to be "sympathetic" for? Who was wronged so badly that I have to feel anything for them? The fact that she was dragged from a corperate-sponsored, caste NFL football game (cheering on a super-black roster of loser players) whilst druken and proudly wearing a black man's name on her back? The fact that the some black guy supposedly got a $10 beer dumped on him and got taunted by a woman at a football game?
I would only agree to physically help her if someone was actually huring her....which nobody was. Security tried to remove her from the stadium, but she was fighting and pushing them. Actually, it seemed like she was hurting those around her. She was the one "chimping out," whereas the black and white DWF onlookers all appeared irritated with her.
Not enough info, I suppose. It's an interesting video, though, thanks for posting Jax.
Interesting observations. Some questions. Did the girls attend the game by themselves? It's possible, but there surely aren't a lot of young women who like football that much. If they had White escorts - where were they during the hoopla? It would not be unreasonable to assume one or both were into mudsharkery.
Wearing a "DWF" style Rogers' jersey, drunk, obnoxious...could be a mudshark possibly (same behavior...ie - quasi-TNB).
KP & JaxVid, not to be a "keyboard kommando" here, but...if I saw some "brutha" really getting out of line with a White woman (who wasn't a mudshark), I'd not hessitate to engage his @$$. I have a pretty violent side (which rarely comes out these days...being married, with kids, career, etc.). I'm not proud of it, but I've been in alotta scraps in my younger days. Although I have a longer fuse now, I would indeed brutalize some mug if he's way outta line. I try to keep my temper in check, but if the situation calls for it, I'd be one of the first to throw hands.
Edited by: DixieDestroyer
just because she was wearing a jersey of a black guy dosent mean she would ever date one btw. I doubt that black guy that steped in was where man.
just because she was wearing a jersey of a black guy dosent mean she would ever date one btw. I doubt that black guy that steped in was her man.
Hard to say. I agree with Don. From what we see in th evideo we really do not know what the hell happened. That being said, IF they were there together (as some posters have alluded to the rarity of 2 women going to a football game alone)as a intimate couple then she is on her own full stop NO MATTER WHAT he is doing to her (I would call the police if he was beating her but by no means put my physical or FINANCIAL well being on the line for a mudshark)for she then becomes one of them. I have known 2 guys. 2!! that have defended white women from non-white boyfriends. 1 had to pay big money in legal fees and nearly went to jail, the other one had to pay restitution because the white chick he saved testified for her African boyfriend. Ironically, neither chick was even Australian. 1 was a Swedish or Dutch chick who was here on a student Visa, the other one was from England. Anyway, (not to be some keyboard commando)I would not allow some innocent white girl to be attacked by any invader.Edited by: aussieaussie31
Wow, lots of good commentary here. Ultimately, I would choose to stay away from this. For all I know, what if they are together, and this is all a setup to collect some money from the poor sucker who decides to intervene? Like Aussie says, what if the matter goes to court and she decides to testify against her rescuer, and for her African man? It's not worth it. Also, as Don has indicated, we hardly know any of the facts here.
It's a very tough judgment call as to when you should intervene in a situtation like this. Although, I agree 100%, if those were 2 black women arguing with a couple of white guys, you better believe any and all black folks in the vicinity would have no doubt descended there like a pack of wild dogs to defend their fellow sistahs.
So, I see that angle as well, and yes, white people definitely need to learn a thing or two about racial solidarity, which is sorely missing these days.
If one of the DWFs sitting nearby was in reality a very racially aware white man, I still would not want him to intervene, given what the video shows. If he was not in the original argument and came over to defend the very drunk and obnoxious white girl, if it had gotten physical between him and the black, he likely would have been charged with assault and battery. I doubt what appeared to be all-black or nearly all-black security personnel would have looked upon his intervention kindly. And for good measure, he could possibly becharged with a hate crime as the black might claim he was called a racial slur even if he wasn't. This theoretical white man would then be facing all kinds of negative consequences that could wreck his livelihood, while the gains would be. . . what. . . knowing he went down in flames trying to help a drunk white girl who probably didn't even remember what happened the next day when she sobered up.
It's a sad but true reality that white men who still have their racial instincts have to be very smart about these things. I would much rather seethis theoretical raciallyaware white manseething in his seat but at least be able to live to fight far more important and relevant battles.
More likely than not she would.Men usually don't think twice about what they wear. Not the case with females who are adept at sending signals. A woman wishing to broadcast her availability will dress accordingly. What do you suppose a black guy is thinking when he sees a young, white babe (especially if she is unattended) wearing the jersey of an afrolete while cheering vociferously for other affletes? You think she doesn't know? Edited by: Bart
Bart, in my experience women don't even know who the player is, what position, what they look like, etc. I totally agree that women are adept at sending signals. And yes, some do know who the players are. One girl I was seeing a couple years ago was wearing a Nash jersey when we watched the Suns game! Lol. But that is the exception. If a Stafford jersey was the first thing she saw that fit, she probably would have worn that too. Go to any NFL game, and you will see plenty of white women with their white husbands wearing Ray Lewis, Chad Ochocinco, McNabb, etc.
Nope we can't tell much from the video. That's kinda my point. Why reflexively assume it was the white girl's fault? We do know about as much as the security knew. What makes me mad about the video is she was removed while blacks were allowed to mock her and point (almost contacting) at her several times while absolutely nobody including security told them to back off. She was purposely grabbed in the boob - not just pushed - but grabbed in front of security.
I think we have all been drunk in public before. I would hate to a group of blacks in front of area full of whites start something with me while all the whites sat on their hands or even encouraged the blacks just because they had the excuse that I was drunk - or whatever excuse they would use. That type of thing happens all the time though as we have seen on numerous crime thread videos.
I agree with you Kaptain Poop. I agree completely that most white males walking the streets these days are cowards. I have no doubt of that. I watched a clip from France, I sh*t you not, 2 Arab kids that stood about 5'5 and weighed like 130 pounds soaking wet had grown white adult males that outweighed them by god dam 80 pounds trembling in fear. Embarrasing to be honest.
Same can be said in the US. I think it was in Seattle Washington a few years ago. I saw a group of mabye 10-15 Africans stomnping white women in the head while literally HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS of white men stood by. The white boys were looking at the f*ckin sky pretending not to see what was going on right in front of their own eyes while some white girl was getting kicked in the face by black males. It was hard to make everything out because you could tell as soon as it dawned on the camera man what exactly was going down, all footage seemed to come a abrupt end. I was embarressed of my white skin for like a month after I saw that most vivd display of cowardlyness.
Wow, you are really living up to the new screen name, lol.
Aussie isn't that the whole point of the media and Hollywood? To make whites afraid of blacks. They want us to self destruct.
I noticed that this video was on the front page of youtube meaning it was one of the most watched videos in the country/world. Imagine if some DWF had come to her aid-he'd probably be Stormfront's man of the year or something.
I can see both points of view. As far as not having enough knowledge or background of the situation that was my whole point, when do you in such situations? Sure it would be nice to know her background, the situations background and all of that but in real life you don't get that information.
Many here criticize white kids that stand by when other white kids get beat up on a bus----well maybe they didn't know what the fight was about, maybe the white kid was an cornhole, maybe they were worried about "hate" crimes and wanted to save themselves for something more important. That's the whole frickin' point!
In this video you see a black fan from several rows over hollering in his two cents, he wasn't worried about the background, when blacks jump in to pummel a white guy, they're not worried about the situation. You can argue that that is what separates us from them but if you do then you have to put up with the beat down's because that is just something white people don't get involved in because for whatever reson we're more careful.
As far as her and the black guy they almost certainly didn't know each other which you can infer from the comments by the person who posted the video and from their interaction, that was not a lover's quarrel.
And for her wearing a Roy Williams jersey, I don't think that's a big deal because as Kaptain Poop pointed out what else could she wear? There are virtually no white players on the Lions to celebrate. Roy Williams has been gone since last year anyway. You maybe could get a Stafford jersey but since he's new it would cost a fortune, other then that maybe a Joey Harrington jersey which would open you up to ridicule more then anything else.
Why was she there? Probably to meet guys. I have to believe NFL football games are a great place to meet guys with money. The crowd is 95% white so if she was looking for black guys she was in the wrong place. Lots of chicks go to sporting events because there are plenty of men there who got money because a day at the game is not cheap. And she probably wants a DWF like her dear old dad (most likely).
So while I don't really disagree with anyone here on this because I see both sides, and I don't know that I would've done anything because I'm too old for both her and the hassle but if I had already had a few beers who knows? I probaby would have yelled at the guy just for the hell of it, why not?