"Darkest Hour" - Hollywood's latest Winston Churchill propaganda

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  1. Riggins44

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    This needs to be remembered today as the Zionists have been relentlessly pushing for war between Russia and NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union.
     
  2. Heretic

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    Great post.

    The lies of omission are just as much a part of all of the endless (Rothschild) propaganda. Where are all of the mainstream newspaper/magazine articles, TV/Cable programs, movies/films/documentaries etc. on Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. and their atrocities over the past 50 years? Anyone? More lies of omission. Why? How?
     
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    I recently came across an interview on Youtube with a British historian - David Irving. I knew nothing about him until a few days ago but he wrote a definitive history of the Dresden Fire Bombings and has done extensive research and wrote many books on the Third Reich - mainly the leadership. He has been attacked as a holocaust denier and went to court in 2000 over this in England.

    Pretty good video of Irving discussing his book Churchill's War and giving his perspective of how Churchill operated. Eye opening stuff for a History buff like me.

     
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    I read that book and also Alexander McKee's Dresden 1945 The Devil's Tinderbox. I thought the latter much more powerful. He made it more personal, telling the story of the people on the ground, like the Dresden famous animal trainer who also ran - or worked at - I forgot which - the world famous Dresden Zoo. He was a broken man afterwards, after the Americans not only used their Mustangs to strafe the burned survivors who had fled to the river, but even strafed the animals in the zoo.

    Irving didn't just go to court. In 2006 they sentenced him to three years in prison in Austria for "holocaust denial", a Thought Crime, and he was locked up there for 13 months.

    If you want to search for info on any of this don't use Google. It has been "politically corrected". DuckDuckGo search engine is better.

    https://www.amazon.com/Dresden-1945...736613498/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
     
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  5. Charles Martel

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    I completely agree. :thumbsup:
     
  6. Riggins44

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    How true. Communism/socialism has killed many more people than Nazism. Yet nazism gets so much more bad exposure in Hollywood and in popular culture. Because Hollywood and popular culture is run by Jews who hate Nazis and hate White goyim in general, and the Jews invented communism.
     
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    More truth. That 1 sentence explains so much of the misery in our world right now.
     
  8. La France Blanche

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    The same person who is so wrong on one issue can be so right on another. Example - another Conservative British Prime Minister - Margaret Thatcher.

    She hated Germans. (So wrong).

    She wanted White people in South Africa to have their own all-White nation. (So right).
     
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    Irving elaborates on Churchill's connections to the Zionists.
     
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    This is about WWI not the second world war, but didn't want to start a new thread. Interesting how easily Americans have always been whipped up by war propaganda. Given how conservatives today have fallen for the perpetual "war on terror" malarkey, the question is, will Americans ever stop falling for rally round the flag rhetoric? War is a racket, one clearly rotting this country internally, yet still most conservatives can't put two and two together. This article is from an establishment British newspaper:

    Tarred and Feathered, Lynched in the Street and Locked Up in Internment Camps: The Tragic Plight of Germans in America During the First World War

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4992032/Germans-AMERICA-World-War.html
     
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    “The names of German food were removed from restaurant menus; sauerkraut became 'liberty cabbage', hamburger became 'liberty steak'.

    Even German Daschund dogs became known as 'liberty dogs' and German measles became 'liberty measles'.”

    When I was in elementary school in the 1990’s, I actually learned about some of the non-violent forms (such as the quotes above concerning the “re-naming” German dogs, towns, and foods) of anti-German hysteria occurring in the U.S. during WW1. It always stuck with me, especially since my family spoke German and we had a Daschund.

    The worst story of persecution that I’ve read occurred to Robert Prager in Illinois. Sickening stuff.

    This time of extreme distrust for all things German is the reason “The Espionage Act” was passed by Congress.
     
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    "The Great War:" was what they called their first world war, Part one of the great fratricidal wars of the 20th century to destroy the white race and western civilization and make the world safe for Israel, or "the war to end all wars" or "the war to destroy the barbarian huns" or "the wor to save motherhood and apple pie and the american way of life", as they billed it to their american cannon fodders. Anyway, it's a good and true article, the same thing I've been saying and getting attacked for saying it, right on here, by allegedly racially aware people.
     
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    I'd heard about the German POW death camps before but I never got into the details. It's horrifying what happened to those poor men and boys. What about all of these sadistic "American" officers and prison guards who took such joy in murdering and torturing these German prisoners, do you think they had last names like Johnson, Williams, and Taylor? I highly doubt it.
     
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    After the war was over more surrendered young German soldiers (most common age 17) were deliberately starved and frozen to death in Eisenhower's death camps then perished on the Western Front throughout the entire War. The American occupation ordered the death penalty for any German civilians who tried to feed the starving prisoners through the fence or by throwing food over the fence.

    I once read an account by an American Veteran who was in occupied Germany after the war. He was sickened by what he saw. He said that some of his comrades came back to the barracks and they were laughing because they found a group of German soldiers who had been hiding overnight at the bottom of a crater that was dug out by an explosion. They stood on the top of the crater and shot them down. They called it a turkey shoot. The Germans were just teenagers and they were crying. The American soldiers were laughing when they related the story.

    I used to work with a guy, an old-timer named Irv, who's actually still living. I found out he's still living because a bunch of the guys told me that they just visited him in his house and even took pictures of him. He's in his 90s now. Irv was a Jewish guy who was on American bombers over Germany in World War II. His bomber was shot down and he parachuted to the ground. He was captured by German farmers who wanted to kill him. He was happy when the military showed up. They locked him up in one of their prison camps, now dubbed "death camps", and treated him very well. He even shared an office with me at one point. He took the phone apart looking for bugs. He was nuts. So here was not only one of the terror bombers who was destroying Germany but a Jewish man as well, and he was treated very well and he was locked up in a "death camp" and he lived to break my telephone. In fact American pow's had an extremely low death rate in German "death camps" throughout the war. So did all Jews, not just Irv. Both the Vatican and the International Red Cross had access to the German camps throughout the war (but not the Allies' death camps in the USSR!!!). Both estimated that approximately 200,000 Jews died in the war years from all causes, that is Allied terror bombing, old age, disease, etc.
     
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    You do realize that POW camps were not what was referred to as "death camps", right? I know you like to play fast and loose with the facts but that's a big error even for you.
     
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    Too many neo cons or kosher conservatives, like this one, in this place. They get upset when confronted by facts that contradict what they've been taught on tv, except they dimly perceive that they don't like negroes as much as they're supposed to. They ignore everything and just scan for a word they think they can spin. The German POW camps were as much "death camps" as any other prison camp in Germany. The real death camps were run by the All Lies, in the USSR and then by the Bolsheviks and their American comrades in post war Germany.

    And then there was the American "Operation Keelhaul".

    And then there is what's going on now in still enemy occupied Germany. Look up US military bases in Germany. The Final Solution to the German/Goyim problem.

    In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps':
    A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p161_Brech.html
     
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    Operating the American torture chambers and death camps in post war Germany were many Jews dressed up in US Army uniforms. The (Jewish) author of *Other Losses* talks about that. Solzhenitzyn said that the rulers of the seven largest gulags (real death camps) in the Soviet Union were all Jewish.
     
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    There is no question that the treatment of prisoners of war is horrible. I'm sure many atrocities were committed against German soldiers after the war. It always happens that way. There are a lot of reasons for it. Resources are limited during and after a war and the last ones anyone cares about is the guys that were formerly trying to kill you. Add in that there is a lot of resentment and fear and it's no wonder POW's are treated so poorly. That does not make it any less tragic.

    However the way to avoid such unpleasantness is to avoid war altogether. It was unfortunate that German soldiers were treated like that but it was also unfortunate when they brought death and destruction to so many people before that. Which is why I go back to the fact that it was Hitlers war mongering which ultimately led to German soldiers being POW's. Invasion of Poland, invasion of Czechoslovakia, invasion of France, invasion of Russia, etc. At some point the idea that these are all defensive actions becomes silly.

    White people shouldn't be killing white people and Hitler was the worst in this category. He should be hated by all pro-white people.
     
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    Baloney. The Americans had a surplus of food and resources. They deliberately starved and froze and tortured to death the surrendered Germans and tricked the anti communist Russians into surrendering and then sent them to Stalin so he could kill them too. Russian emigrees who had been living in Germany and other countries since the red takeover of Russia too. They called it Operation Keelhaul.

    Some rare photos of Eisenhower's death camps are online. Real death camps, like the gulags in the USSR. The Red Cross and Vatican never had access to them, but they did to the German camps throughout the war. Funny how you don't see millions of "survivors" - - over 4 million jewish "death camp survivors" have applied for Reperations. Thats more than all the Jews Hitler ever had in his Third Reich, including the tens of thousands of Jews who fought FOR HIM! Some death camps, huh? - - from these real death camps sitting on their fat tukhases in Miami Beach and West Hollywood collecting Reperations. Huh? And that's because they're dead.

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    Yes.

    The bravest and best died in WW II - it was a terrible waste of millions of lives. Germany was destroyed by the end of the war, Britain and France were bankrupt, Hungary and Romania were enslaved. European nations were greatly weakened, not long afterwards Britain and France would begin to lose their colonies.

    I find watching movies about the European part of WW II depresses me. I do enjoy movies about the Pacific War, like Hacksaw Ridge and The Great Raid.
     
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    The issue of Eisenhower and the German POWs was thoroughly discussed in the early 1990's in books, articles, and panels of historians. There WAS mistreatment by Americans of German prisoners. Some Americans (with names like Johnson, Williams, and Taylor, also Schmidt and Mueller) acted brutally. The "missing million" were Volksturm old men and young boys and some from regular units who were quickly released without being recorded. The highest possible figure for German POW deaths in American hands was 56,000, not a small number in itself, but out of over five million, it amounted to one percent. This is close to the percentage of American POWS who died in German captivity. Since then the subject has been mentioned in histories of WW II.

    Due to the war Hitler started, there was a horrendous food shortage in Europe in 1945.

    Yes, Hitler should be hated by all pro-white people.
     
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    Sigh. Ongoing thread of evil Hitler vs evil Allies. Getting old . In some sense glad it's getting recognition, but sad at the divide it's creating here, Bickering about long gone white vs white wars is pointless. The loss of life is established, fact that we can't agree is a ((job)) well done .

    ((Bigger fish to fry.))
     
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    "Bigger fish to fry". I don't know about that. You see what they are doing to our ancestral homeland, Europe, right now? Destroying it FOR ALL TIME TO COME! And the epicenter of the destruction is Germany. Enemy occupied Germany. Look up US military bases in Germany. Like Shamir said, once the Americans come they never leave, unless they are thrown out, like the Vietnamese did. And how many young Americans - and many many more Vietnamese - died in that bs war for the lying politicians and their handlers behind the screen - "domino theory" and Gulf of Tonkin and whatever other bs their speechwriters could invent? Domino theory my ass. Now they are itching to start ww3 in the middle east. Endless war and death and destruction they love it.
     
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    Nearly every debate today comes down to 2 words - "Nazis" and the "Holocaust." There really is no bigger fish to fry than the truth of the events leading up to WW2 and the Holocaust. In the eyes of the mainstream rest of the world, we are all vial Nazis for supporting white athletes or white rights in anyway. I guess it comes down to what choose to believe. For me it's logical.

    I believe almost in its entirety the German or Hitler version of the events. Don't call me names now like Nazi apologists - it might hurt my feels. I have not come to my beliefs by joining some hate group or reading radical literature. I've kind of always had this view since elementary school because I guess it was natural. First of all, I could care less of the "woe is me, what about the Jews and Gypsies." There are not my people and I am not conditioned to believe they acted more morally than my people. If they got a sacking in WW2, I figured they deserved it. My Grandmother was actually kidnapped by Gypsies when she was about 3 years old. Her father caught up to the gypsies horse and buggy a few miles down the road and that is why I am here today and I don't feel sorry for what he did to them. My dad, who was rather neutral on the topic of WW2, worked with an old German man who fought in the war. They often chided him about the war and being German in a friendly way of course. His line about how the Germans treated the Jews, was - and I paraphrase "If you only knew how the Jews treated us Germans before the war, you would have no sympathy for them." This stuck in my mind. Anyways, enough about my 2 minutes of hate.

    On to the logic of WW2. Let me ask what anyone thinks would happen to any white nation today that became a non-Jewish white ethnic state. Wouldn't they "literally be Hitler" as a SJW would say? Wouldn't a war suddenly happen to "liberate" those happy white people from their very popular leader. I think if Iceland today decided to do something as timid as barring non-white (including Jews) immigrants the hellhounds of the world would descend on them and justify a war anyway they could. Their leader would be "literally Hitler." There is no doubt of this. Are you so sure this didn't happen in WW2? Was Hitler really after world domination? Was he always in the wrong? Was he hyper-aggressive? Was he nuts? Did he chew-carpet?

    Running out of time so I'll try to sum up on memory alone - don't nit-pick. The war started because we were told Hitler was being aggressive yet Germany was still smaller than Germany of pre-WW1. Austria was annexed peacefully and with the overwhelming support of the Austrian people. The Sudetenland was annexed per a peaceful international treaty- it was nearly all German anyway. A Part of the rest of Czechoslovakia was put under a German Protectorate at the request of the Chech President. Poland sent troops in and took part for themselves without any opposition (yet no war overtures towards Poland). Other parts like Slovakia were declared independent states. So far, seems pretty peaceful. But the drumbeats of war were loud in the Western World and have been since 1933 really - well before any supposed actions of aggression. I guess the morality of the was all comes down to Poland which I will have to address later as I am out of time.
     
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