College Hoops News; Transfers

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  1. Jack Lambert

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    It looks like Syracuse big man Tyler Lydon is entering the NBA draft. I feel he could use another year of college, as he was rather inconsistent for a lot of the year. I've stated this in another thread, but I'd rather have all these white guys staying in college for their college careers and becoming stars. Anyways, best of luck to Tyler in the NBA.

    I'm hoping Kennard and Allen both stay at Duke.
     
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    While not everyone agrees with my thinking on these things I detest this move. Lydon is one of my favorite college players ( top 3) and despite being inconsistent this year as JL says he was still growing as an all around player and was set to be a superstar in the coming two years. With Jim B staying on as coach this would have been a sweet marriage. Where are the mature people guiding young men like Lydon? Short term money grab long term error? Imagine if he stayed all four years ? He would receive adoration and respect from Syracuse fans who are as dedicated and rabid as any fan base in the country. The chance to grow as a player and develop not only basketball skills but become a more mature person who is more prepared to handle adversity. Tyler is a perfect example of a budding star who should stay in school. He has the athletic chops but he needs to hone his skills. A team guy I am disappointed but I hope the best for him. I would hate to see him shrivel up on some NBA bench instead of becoming a mainstay college figure on TV the next two years.
    The same goes for Grayson Allen. He should stay and hone his skills for one more season.
     
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    I think Henry Ellenson is a great example of this. I thought he should've stayed at least one more year at Marquette. Instead, he's barely getting into games for the Pistons this year in the NBA. If he'd have stayed in college, he'd have been the best player on Marquette (he would have led a VERY white team), First-Team All Big East, and seen as the poster boy for any tournament run the Golden Eagles may have went on this year. I think in nearly every case (there are exceptions) it'd be better for the player (and us CBB fans) if they stay in college and further hone their skills and become a household name. I just don't see the benefits of a guy like Ellenson or Stephen Zimmerman bouncing between the end of the bench in the NBA and toiling in the D-League. They'd be household names if they'd have stayed in college, and not rotting on the bench for 4-5 years until they get their shot, if they do at all.

    Of course, I'm rooting for Allen and Kennard to stay at Duke for next year. If they both stay, they'll likely be considered (along with Frank Jackson) the best backcourt in college basketball. 2/3 of the guys in the best college backcourt white (and Wooden Award Candidates to boot), and playing for one of the most high-profile teams in Duke? Yes please.
     
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    Again it is no guarantee if a player stays in school for four years he will become a better pro but in general I think it improves their chances of becoming a better pro. Two good examples JL thanks. Zimmerman has a lot of raw physical talent but what the hell is he doing in the NBA at this point? He should be a UNVL super stud right now. Ellenson isn't as athletically gifted but could have been a huge college star. And these two guys along with Lydon were all top players coming out of high school. The next two classes for 2017 and 2018 feature at best one vaguely highly rated player so we could see a huge drop in white stars at the college level in the next two years because of these players jumping ship early. Just because a ton of clueless black players jump ship is no reason for white guys to follow suit. I just hope my other two favorite college players TJ Leaf and Grayson Allen stay in school. Sure Grayson and that tripping stuff was foolish but I think he is a good kid and Coach K obviously likes him. Stay in school Grayson. He has been playing better of late and now scouts feel another year could do wonders and they see a Bobby Sura like player although I think Grayson has more potential.
    And you hit it on the nail JL they are "household names" if they stay in school and visual context means a lot these days when it comes to the caste outlook. Being the 11th man on an NBA bench or straddling between the D- League is pretty useless in terms of caste busting.
     
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