College Hoops News; Transfers

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  1. Jack Lambert

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    It looks like Syracuse big man Tyler Lydon is entering the NBA draft. I feel he could use another year of college, as he was rather inconsistent for a lot of the year. I've stated this in another thread, but I'd rather have all these white guys staying in college for their college careers and becoming stars. Anyways, best of luck to Tyler in the NBA.

    I'm hoping Kennard and Allen both stay at Duke.
     
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    While not everyone agrees with my thinking on these things I detest this move. Lydon is one of my favorite college players ( top 3) and despite being inconsistent this year as JL says he was still growing as an all around player and was set to be a superstar in the coming two years. With Jim B staying on as coach this would have been a sweet marriage. Where are the mature people guiding young men like Lydon? Short term money grab long term error? Imagine if he stayed all four years ? He would receive adoration and respect from Syracuse fans who are as dedicated and rabid as any fan base in the country. The chance to grow as a player and develop not only basketball skills but become a more mature person who is more prepared to handle adversity. Tyler is a perfect example of a budding star who should stay in school. He has the athletic chops but he needs to hone his skills. A team guy I am disappointed but I hope the best for him. I would hate to see him shrivel up on some NBA bench instead of becoming a mainstay college figure on TV the next two years.
    The same goes for Grayson Allen. He should stay and hone his skills for one more season.
     
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    I think Henry Ellenson is a great example of this. I thought he should've stayed at least one more year at Marquette. Instead, he's barely getting into games for the Pistons this year in the NBA. If he'd have stayed in college, he'd have been the best player on Marquette (he would have led a VERY white team), First-Team All Big East, and seen as the poster boy for any tournament run the Golden Eagles may have went on this year. I think in nearly every case (there are exceptions) it'd be better for the player (and us CBB fans) if they stay in college and further hone their skills and become a household name. I just don't see the benefits of a guy like Ellenson or Stephen Zimmerman bouncing between the end of the bench in the NBA and toiling in the D-League. They'd be household names if they'd have stayed in college, and not rotting on the bench for 4-5 years until they get their shot, if they do at all.

    Of course, I'm rooting for Allen and Kennard to stay at Duke for next year. If they both stay, they'll likely be considered (along with Frank Jackson) the best backcourt in college basketball. 2/3 of the guys in the best college backcourt white (and Wooden Award Candidates to boot), and playing for one of the most high-profile teams in Duke? Yes please.
     
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    Again it is no guarantee if a player stays in school for four years he will become a better pro but in general I think it improves their chances of becoming a better pro. Two good examples JL thanks. Zimmerman has a lot of raw physical talent but what the hell is he doing in the NBA at this point? He should be a UNVL super stud right now. Ellenson isn't as athletically gifted but could have been a huge college star. And these two guys along with Lydon were all top players coming out of high school. The next two classes for 2017 and 2018 feature at best one vaguely highly rated player so we could see a huge drop in white stars at the college level in the next two years because of these players jumping ship early. Just because a ton of clueless black players jump ship is no reason for white guys to follow suit. I just hope my other two favorite college players TJ Leaf and Grayson Allen stay in school. Sure Grayson and that tripping stuff was foolish but I think he is a good kid and Coach K obviously likes him. Stay in school Grayson. He has been playing better of late and now scouts feel another year could do wonders and they see a Bobby Sura like player although I think Grayson has more potential.
    And you hit it on the nail JL they are "household names" if they stay in school and visual context means a lot these days when it comes to the caste outlook. Being the 11th man on an NBA bench or straddling between the D- League is pretty useless in terms of caste busting.
     
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    Indiana hires Dayton's Caste slut Archie Miller as its new HC. Makes Crean look like a saint!!
     
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    It seems the Thompson era at Georgetown is over. Hoyas have named Patrick Ewing as their new HC. I mean can't be worse than his predecessors, right?
     
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    This will be Ewing's first head coaching job. He has previously only been an assistant in the NBA. It will be interesting to see how he does. I'm not expecting a whole lot.
     
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    Roberts Blumbergs a 6'10" PF out of Latvia is going to play for Grand Canyon. In case you are wondering yes it is a Division 1 school in the WAC conference. Very nice athlete with a lot of skills. Quite a pick up for a team with no buzz. Heck Hispanics invaded baseball it would be nice to see a ramp up of white Euro basketball players in college hoops.
     
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    Awesome! Former NBA Guard Dan Majerle will be coaching him at Grand Canyon!
     
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  10. Jack Lambert

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    I hope overrated Lonzo Ball and the rest of his brothers fail. I hope LaVar Ball's business goes bankrupt. If any people wondered why we hate this douche, here you go: http://collegebasketball.nbcsports....trashes-lonzos-teammates-for-tournament-exit/

    Here's his actual quote: "Realistically you can’t win no championship with three white guys because the foot speed is too slow." This is so blatant, even the writer defends their three white players somewhat. I don't care how white UCLA is. I will never be cheering for them as long as there is a Ball even close to their program.
     
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    I've been looking at comments on the articles talking about Ball's latest comments I posted on above, and they are nearly 100% against him! They even recognized Alford and Leaf as two of the best players on the team, and Bruins fans were saying they wouldn't have been near as good without them. Maybe some DWFs will be waking up over this?
     
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    Of all the player's on that court vs Kentucky his mulatto son was the one getting exposed the most athletically by Fox and Monk. This guy is a nut job attention whore.
     
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    I guess it's official his Quadroon son is officially Black... If his son wasn't a brick mason in the Kentucky game they either advance in that game or a lose a closer classic thriller type game. Somebody in his rec league game needs to elbow Ball Sr in the throat until his eyes water.....
     
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    Papa Ball just gave us here at caste some bulletin board material. But the truth is many fans agree with this blather about the "slow white guys" which is why you hear a lot of carping if a team recruits a white player. And we all know in general the media "agrees" with his statement and promotes it in various ways.
    That said I was going to comment on this a while back but never pulled the trigger. His youngest son scored 92 points in a game this past season and the media reveled in it . One of the reasons he scored so many points is that he often just laid back and never ran up to play defense so it was artificially achieved. I thought at the time what a cheap non sportsmanship thing to do. As for Lonzo to his credit he is a team player. But the media blew him up way out of proportion. The nut case dad, not dissimilar to the William's sisters dad, ate up all the media hype and just ran with it over the cliff.
    Here is hoping the entire Ball clan fails. Cheers!!
     
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    I just came across the idiotic Lavar Ball comments and was about to post them but it looks like you guys beat me to it. This guy is a piece of ****, his ugly ass mulatto sons and white whore wife can all go **** themselves as far as I am concerned. Hopefully comments like this begin to wake whites up to the constant ******** of the caste system.
     
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    Just thinking rather than reacting to that idiot Ball's comments. We can start using this as a weapon against the caste system. It seems like the backlash is pretty significant besides the racists on black twitter. This could be a good thing and it can be used as a point of reference. I plan to use it on twitter.

    The Patriots had a bunch of well conditioned white athletes on the field and they owned the Falcons coal black defense down the stretch.
     
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    I agree Leo. Whenever these kind of blatant statements that suggest the inferiority of white athletes gets spelled out in big letters as opposed to the small letters the media utilizes it is a good thing because it forces people to think and contemplate the implications of the anti white athlete mind set.
     
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    Ya those 92 points he was cherry picking the entire "contest" .
     
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    Good news!! I see guard Jordan Hill has transferred from Wisconsin! That should open things up for Brevin Pritzl to start next year!

    Here are a few of the bigger transfer names in terms of white players who still don't have a school. I've noticed that they seem to be more likely to stay put than their black counterparts do. The school is parenthesis is where they transferred from.

    PG Casey Benson (Oregon)
    SF Egor Koulechov (Rice)
    F Henry Caruso (Princeton)
    F Hans Brase (Princeton)
    G Peter Kiss (Quinnipiac)
    F Matt Ryan (Notre Dame)
    F Mark Donnal (Michigan)
    F Ryan Fazekas (Providence)
    PG Jeremy Lieberman (Wyoming)
    C Evan Maxwell (Kansas)
    F Jack Whitman (William & Mary)


    The following transfers have already committed to their new schools.

    Fordham F Christian Sengfelder committed to Boise State.
    SMU F Harry Froling committed to Marquette.
    SDSU PG Cole Gentry is playing for his old coach Scott Nagy at Wright State.
    Former Ohio State SF Mickey Mitchell is now at Arizona State.
     
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    This just in : Grayson Allen is staying at Duke for his senior year! Good for him and good for college basketball. GO DUKE!!:clap2:
     
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    Excellent news!! Finally, a good decision.

    Also, to update my list: Egor Koulechov has committed to Florida, Henry Caruso has committed to Santa Clara, and Matt Ryan and Ryan Fazekas are looking at Vanderbilt.
     
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    From the other thread, 2017 Georgian big man Sandro Mamukelashvili commits to... Seton Hall. That means there'll be one pale-face on an otherwise all black affair next year. I'm not sure how much he'll play, considering he picked a team with a couple of the best rebounding bigs in the college game.... once again, a white player not making a good decision. The only way he'll play is if Delgado stays in the draft.
     
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    This is interesting, first team Juco All-American shooting guard Ty Lazenby has committed to Oklahoma! He averaged 23 points and 5 boards in the Juco ranks.

    http://www.scout.com/college/oklahoma/story/1772509-juco-guard-ty-lazenby-commits-to-sooners

    With this, Oklahoma now has three white athletes committed to play for them next year in this class, joining forward Matt Freeman! This gives Oklahoma four white scholarship players, and with the exception of Oklahoma State, that's double more than any other team in the Big 12 has. The other two are Top 100 SF Brady Manek and Finnish center Hannes Polla. If these guys can manage to get some minutes, the Sooners could become a team to watch.
     
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    Good news! I found it interesting that despite leading his HS team to 3 state championships, scouts questioned his "size" therefore that explains his lack of recruitment. Apparently now even 6'5 white Shooting Guards are deemed "undersized" by caste whore scouts.
     
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    Ha, I was reading Matt Miller's Top 400 lists and Calvin Munson at 6'0 5/8" 245lbs is undersized for an LB apparently. His top linebacker is the next Alabama bust who was only 6'0" 229 lbs but no issues with his size are brought up in the negatives section of his write up (this same LB was kicked out of the combine and yesterday was put into the NFLs Drug program for giving a diluted sample at the combine). I digress though - sorry to hijack this thread!
     
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