College basketball 2018-2019 Week One

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  1. Deceptive Speed

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    Oh how the tides have turned for Duke a team that has historically recruited the best white players in the nation, have now gone full caste with an all-black starting 5.

    They've reached a new low with only 2 whites part of their rotation in 6'7 F Jack White avg. 8ppg and 7ppg, while 6'6 SG Alex O'Connell only has 5ppg in 10-15 mins a night. Promising Fr. Joey Baker, hasn't really played so far even tho he probably should be starting, but I'm sure he'll break the rotation as the season progresses. Duke does have a good recruiting class coming so hopefully this doesn't last, but for now I refuse to watch them.
     
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  2. icsept

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    The Whites at Duke have to serve a racial apprenticeship, while the blacks get instant starts for their “one and done” season. As a Freshman, Grayson Allen rode the bench until being unleashed in the National Championship game. An excellent freshman year could have earned him a lottery pick, but he had to return and his draft stock ebbed and flowed from there. Only the “one and dones” are considered lottery worthy. Coach K knows if you don’t start the blacks, they won’t come.
     
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    Coach K lost me years ago when he said he wouldn't mind his daughter marrying someone like Grant Hill. K and Roy Williams are both liberal idiots.
     
  4. Old Scratch

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    White players have to just stop going to Duke, Duke is no longer white friendly since Luke Kennard and Grayson Allen led the team a couple years ago. Alex O'Connell was a 4 star recruit (just shy of 5) by 247sports, 14th ranked SG in the country out of high school and barely gets to play his sophomore year at Duke. Black one and dones play over him both years. Right now he's averaging 10 minutes per game, and that's inflated by him getting extra minutes in blowout games, he only played 3 minutes in each contest against Gonzaga and Auburn. He could have went to another big school and started right away like at Xavier, Syracuse, UCLA, or played for his home state of Georgia, instead he got buried at Duke and has zero chance at making it to the NBA. Allen was better rated than O'Connell and had a weaker class and still had to serve a racial apprenticeship his freshman year.

    The currently top rated PG Nico Mannion received an offer from Duke but didn't even give them a visit, and already signed for Arizona. Top whites should be going to schools like Villanova, Michigan, Virginia or wherever they will get to actually start and get minutes from day one.
     
  5. Jimmy Chitwood

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    TERRIFIC game between Iowa and Wisconsin tonight, with both teams going hard, exchanging leads back and forth throughout the game, and each making big shots and big stops in pivotal moments. the high energy and high level of play gave the game the feel of an NCAA Tourney game despite it being late November.

    as far as our guys go, Iowa had 4 “gym rats” on the court for much of the game, while the Badgers started 3 but had several see significant minutes off the bench. i really like the way these two teams played, but eventually Wisconsin pulled out the win.
     
  6. Deceptive Speed

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    Well I'm glad Nico didn't go to Duke, he has some big things in store for him. Honestly I kind of wish the NBA would bring back drafting guys out of HS, maybe then we can see the Duke of old dominating with mostly white teams.

    Notre Dame, and Gonzaga are good places for top-ranked whites too.
     
  7. Freethinker

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    Fully agree. Great post.
     
  8. white lightning

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    You guys need to keep your eyes on Alex Barcello. He is a sophmore at the Univ. of Arizona playing for the Wildcats. He had 16 pts in his last game. They didn't
    play him that much last year but he is getting to play more this season. I can see him having a nice season and he has so much talent not to mention great hops! Here
    is a video of some of his senior year hilite reel from a little over a year ago.

     
  9. Shadowlight

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    I understand the frustration that Old Scratch and others have with Duke this season. Those "fab" freshman are beyond annoying. The gushing gets sickening.

    That said I am willing to suffer through it. Coach K has one of the better track records of any big time coach we care to mention. And hopefully both Jack White and Alex O'Connell can make a difference as the year proceeds. Yesterday White , who has been a bear on the boards all year , nabbed 9 boards but didn't score. O'Connell had his best game of the season scoring 13 points on 5-10 shooting.

    That said they are in a tough situation. It is hard to find a groove if your minutes are choppy.

    But if things click now by next season they could be important starters.

    Joey Baker from all indications will likely red shirt. He is the most talented of the three.

    Duke will take patience. Probably I alone here at CF am willing to suffer through this season as long as White and O'Connell stay engaged and grow as the season moves forward. They are very talented young players and both are leapers.

    Speaking of glimmer I got a good look at SG Tyler Herro yesterday ( 18 points and 5 rebounds in a tough win) and he is easily the freshman I like best so far with apologies to Northern Iowa's PG AJ Green who I have not seen and Mac Mclung who I love but is clearly limited shooting wise but he should improve. Hopefully.

    Herro is everything you want in a basketball player and a better athlete than advertised. Nice movement and light on his feet. Very skilled and smart. And at 6'5" has the height to hopefully play in the NBA some day. Imagine that. Kentucky as a team to watch. Although to be fair they did have a white player Derek Willis contribute for a couple of years not to long ago but lately they have been bad news--until now. And Willis didn't start getting big minutes until his senior season.
     
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  10. Jimmy Chitwood

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    Joe Weiskamp (sp?) of Iowa is the best all-around freshman I’ve watched play this year. at 6-6 and versatile enough to play (and guard) multiple positions, he’s a very, VERY good wing who is a potential scoring machine. 6-6 freshman teammate Connor McCaffrey (the head coach’s son) comes off the bench but plays big minutes on the wing, but he’s more of a slashing point guard who either finishes at the rim or creates for a teammate. they’re a pair i am excited to see develop.

    in other news, Belmont fell for the first time this season in a high-scoring affair with mostly-black Green Bay, despite Windler’s 31.
     
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    Seeing two kids like Matt McClung on Georgetown and Tyler Hero at Kentucky play descent minutes as freshman and already doing
    good gives me hope for the future. Next year it will continue with Nicco Manion and others. I see a reimmurgence of white ball players
    from the U.S. who can flat out play. Sites like youtube with show like overtime really help our cause. I can see some of these kids becoming
    stars not only in college but in the nba down the road. They just need a coach that believes in them! The future looks bright!
     
  12. Deceptive Speed

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    I'm still gonna pass on Duke this year, I'll see how their looking next year.

    AJ Green should have stayed commited to Iowa, N Iowa just doesn't have the same level of competition. Regarding Tyler Herro yes I think he may be our best NBA prospect this year, even better than last years crop of SG's Allen, Divencenso, and Huerter. We do have another big-time SG prospect for the 2019 draft in Virginia's Jr. Ty Jerome 6'5 200. Jerome's a well rounded player avg. 14 ppg 3 rpg and 4 apg, who might even project better as a PG!
     
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  13. Jimmy Chitwood

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    Jerome runs the point for Virginia. he’s got all the tools.
     
  14. Jimmy Chitwood

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    Michigan has climbed to #5 in the polls, led by their two first-year starters in junior 7-foot-1 center Teske and foreign freshman forward Brazdeikis.

    Teske is a big man who can step out and knock down the three, has some decent feet, and provides solid defense in the post. he’s better than he was “predicted” to be by all the “experts.” shocker.

    Brazdeikis has star power. he’s aggressive, has good size, and has enough of an all-around game offensively to keep opposing defenses off balance. he plays with the type of attacking mindset that is fun to watch and far too rarely seen from our players. he doesn’t mind dunking on someone’s head, either. and from what i’ve seen, he’s the unquestioned emotional leader of the team.
     
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    Belmont won a thriller Tuesday night versus the unexpectedly tough Lipscomb (team that was mentioned earlier this year), in a game that went down to the final shot and had 8 or more “gym rats” on the court for nearly the entire game.

    Belmont moves to 7-1 on the year, with Lipscomb at 6-2. both should be in the mix for a conference title in the OVC.

    Iowa’s young (majority White) team tips off an intra-state rivalry game with (all-black-except-one) Iowa State at 7:00 central tonight. how will the Hawkeyes bounce back after they got demolished by Michigan State in their last outing?
     
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  16. Bucky

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    Good news regarding Belmont and Lipscomb. It's a shame they both can't make the Tourney!

    Right now watching Arizona Vs Utah Valley. Valley leading AZ 38-29 with 3 gym rats starting for them!
     
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    Actually, Lipscomb is in the Atlantic Sun conference while Belmont is in the OVC; so both teams can get in if they win their conference tournament! Lipscomb looks like a heavy A-Sun favorite right now, seeing what they did to SMU and TCU earlier in the year, and former A-Sun power Florida Gulf Coast struggling thus far. Belmont is looking very good, but has a good team in all-black Murray State (who've knocked Belmont out of the OVC tournament the last couple of years), so the Bruins will have their work cut out for them.

    Iowa had a nice win over nearly all-black Iowa State last night, the game Jimmy alluded to. Bench players and 6th and 7th men Nicholas Baer and Conner McCaffrey led the Hawkeyes' white contingent with 14 and 12 apiece off the bench. Baer's barrage of threes in the second half broke the game wide open, and McCaffrey's taking over of the game down the stretch helped Iowa seal the deal.

    A white friendly Purdue squad knocked off all black Maryland, who the commentators were salivating over for large portions of the game. Matt Haarms had 10 points, 6 boards, and 3 blocks in the win.

    Another Mid-Major to keep an eye is Wofford. The Terriers start do-everything guard Fletcher Magee, one of the best in the country from deep, and Wofford's leader. The springy 6'4, 200 lb senior had 27 points in the Terriers' devouring of a cupcake last night. The Terriers also start two more white guards in freshman PG Ryan Larson, and guard/wing Nathan Hoover. Guard Storm Murphy and big man Matt Pegram come off the bench for nice minutes.

    Butler senior Paul Jorgensen has been exceeding expectations so far this year. Not only has he proven to be a reliable second scorer behind their "star," Jorgensen is actually Butler's leading scorer so far this year at over 17PPG. Yet, this is the same game some DWFs are talking about benching once a Duke transfer of the magical variety becomes eligible next week. Typical DWF fandom at its worst. They're hoping either Jorgensen or Sean McDermott (who happens to be the squad's third leading scorer at nearly 11 PPG will be bench for this magical athlete who couldn't even get on the floor at Duke, despite Coach K's new affinity for magical athletes.

    One last team I'd like to mention: No. 13 Texas Tech is currently undefeated at 8-0. Normally, I wouldn't care, seeing as how Tech is usually nearly all-black. However, this year, the Red Raiders decided to inject some diversity into their squad; 2/3 of the starting backcourt is white. Matt Mooney, a senior graduate transfer who tore up the Summitt League at South Dakota last year, starts at one spot and is the second leading scorer with nearly 11 PPG. Italian Davide Moretti, a sophomore guard, starts at another backcourt spot, and is third on the team with nearly 10 PPG. Hopefully the Red Raiders can contend in the Big 12; with their two white starters, they qualify as the whitest team in the conference (going by numbers of players who play heavy minutes). That's right. Only one other team in the 10-team Big 12 (Oklahoma State, who likely won't be good) gives 27+ minutes every night to two white players like Texas Tech does. I hope their coach doesn't get fired for this transgression. There are a couple of teams with solo white stars (Iowa State's Michael Jacobson, Kansas State's Dean Wade, Baylor's Makai Mason, Oklahoma's Brady Manek, and Texas's Dylan Osetkowski), but on these teams, the white player is the only one that gets time, or only 1-2 players play sparse bench minutes. Hey, it's better than the SEC.
     
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    6'-9" 236lb Sr. Forward Mike Daum (South Dakota St.) scored 42 points last night vs. Southern U. He became the 67th player in NCAA Division I history to score 2,500 career points.
     
  19. Bucky

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    Marquette vs Wisconsin just started. 50 percent of athletes on the floor are pale faces.

    JL nice post and glad to hear I'm mistaken, looking forward to both squads come March!
     
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    Patrick Ewing is not an intelligent coach. Mac McClung was the hot hand and had a career high 18 points, and sat the last 12 minutes of the game. Georgetown was up by 15 at one point and ended up losing.
     
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    This is not surprising. The caste reasoning is that during the early parts of the game, the sense of urgency is not quite as high, allowing someone like McClung to score. At the end of the game when intensity is at it's highest, only a "real athlete" can rise to the occasion. It's part of their "magical" properties that whites do not possess in the caste-mindset.
     
  22. Bucky

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    Happ with 29pts.

    Howard from Marquette is a ball hog and an inefficient shooter. Bum!
     
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    Coach Ewing needs to play Matt McClung more minutes. The kid scores 18 while their other starting guard Akinjo only has 4 pts. Why was he in the game when he struggled today? Matt McClung would
    have helped to win this game. Hopefully this is a wake up call for Georgetown. McClung is a star in the making. You can live with the freshman mistakes with his scoring and passing that he brings to the table.
     
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    As we all know Louisville hates playinf white guys, but with Pitino gone that may be changing with Jr. G Ryan McMahon 6'0 playing starter mins at PG! McMahon who is used mostly as the 6th man for some reason has been Louisville's go to scorer at the end of games with a knack for hitting clutch shots. Hes currently 2nd on the team in scoring with 10 ppg, and he instantly makes Louisville a watchable team just like Tyler Herro at Kentucky its nice seeing a white player take over caste team.
     
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    For those that missed the games, it was an AMAZING day of hoops yesterday for our guys. Here are some of the better performances:

    Ignas Brazdeikas and Jon Teske helped lead Michigan to a win over South Carolina. I've really been impressed with Teske. He's been a guy that went from playing 20 MPG to start the year to nearly 30 per game recently. Brazdeikis has all the tools. He's very impressive, and should be must watch stuff for CF users. For South Carolina, Maik Kotsar, a junior forward, head 16 points.

    Villanova's Joe Cremo has been playing very well of late, and has been getting 20+ minutes off the bench for the defending national champs. He had 12 points and 2 boards yesterday. The Wildcats are watchable this season with Collin Gillespie as the starting point, and Cremo coming off the bench for good minutes. Cole Swider, a freshman forward with a sweet stroke, also gets 10+ minutes off the bench.

    Northern Iowa freshman AJ Green is a good one. He scored 20 points yesterday. Unfortunately, his team is not good. They barely beat Division 3 Dubuque yesterday. Hopefully his team improves so people are more able to see Green.

    It was nice watching BYU/Utah yesterday. Both teams started 3 white players, and the Cougars had 4 white players on the floor for large parts of the game. BYU has gotten point guard Nick Emery back, so they should be improving the next couple of weeks. Their black forward Childs is their best player this year, but guards TJ Haws and Zac Seljaas make up the rest of the Top 3. Haws had 18 points and 6 boards, while Seljaas had 14 points and 6 boards. With St. Mary's down, this could be a good chance for the Cougars to make some noise.

    Utah has an impressive freshman in forward Riley Battin. Battin has forced his way into the starting lineup, and has produced. Battin had 9 points, 6 boards, and 5 assists against BYU.

    Ohio beat all-black Radford, who are sure to be media darlings this year, since they'll be in the NCAA Tournament. Ohio improves to 6-3. They only have 1 white starter, but he's their leading scorer in sophomore forward Jason Carter. He again led the Bobcats yesterday with 19 points and 6 boards. In addition, Ohio plays two white players for heavy minutes off the bench in wing Gavin Block and forward Bennett Vander Plas, who often play more minutes than two of the starters, so Ohio is one team to watch.

    Ethan Happ finished with 34 points, 11 boards, and 4 assists on an outstanding 16-21 from the field. It wasn't enough, as Marquette ended up winning in overtime, 74-69. It was an enjoyable game to watch, with at least 2 white players on the floor for both teams nearly the entire game. Joey Hauser had 15 points, while his brother Sam Hauser had 13 points, 14 boards, and 4 assists. Bucky is right; Howard is a complete ball-hog, and makes watching Marquette hard at times. He was 7-29 from the floor last night. I'd say Marquette won in spite of Howard, not because of him. For Wisconsin, they need to get Brad Davison going. I'm not sure what happened with Davison, but he's been very quite the last couple of games for the Badgers.

    Mitch Ballock had 23 points in a losing effort for Creighton last night. I think the Blue Jays would be better if they let more than one of their white big men on the floor at the same time. Krampelj, Epperson, and Froling are all very talented; surely they could play together at some point.

    It was a great day to watch Butler basketball yesterday. In their destruction of nearly all-black Northern Illinois, the Bulldog's top three scorers were white. Sean McDermott hit 7 threes and posted a career-high 23 points. Paul Jorgensen had 16 points, 3 assists, and 3 boards, while Joey Brunk came off the bench for 15 points and 4 boards.

    John Mooney and Rex Pflueger both had good nights for the Irish against UCLA last night. Mooney had a double double with 12 points and 11 boards, despite going up against players much taller than himself. Pflueger had 14 points, 6 boards, and 4 assists. However, the Irish lost because of the extremely selfish play of their two black guards. TJ Gibbs went a sparkling 4-14 from the floor with three turnovers. Gibbs has taken by far the most Notre Dame shots this year with 120, and is making just over 34% of those shots. He's the Irish leading scorer at just 13 PPG, which is horrible for the amount of shots he's putting up. Freshman Prentiss Hubb, who somehow has a green light to shoot from anywhere apparently, one-upped his upsid-laden backcourt mate by posting 2-12 from the field. Hubb has taken the third most shots of anybody in a Notre Dame uniform this season (76) for a sparkling 37% FG average and less than 9 PPG. Gibbs and Hubb finished with 9 and 7 points respectively. Some of their horrible shot attempts allowed the Bruins to get out in transition and score easy baskets. They both caused critical Irish turnovers down the stretch that allowed the all-black Bruins to win the game. So, while the Irish pretty much play 2-3 white players the entire game, the enjoyment of watching them is lessened somewhat by their black ball-hog backcourt that think they are way more talented than they actually are.
     

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