Class of 2020

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  1. Bucky

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    Agreed gents. Looks like Mangum made a heady decision to take his talents out West.

    Cal lost out on Filkins but were able to land Mangum. Not a bad trade off.
     
  2. Shadowlight

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    National signing day is Wednesday. As I was snooping around I noticed 2019 speedster RB ( Rocky alert) Cole Mueller is a freshman on the Illinois St. football team and they were on TV today. I don't believe Mueller played at all this season? I think he is a Kansas native?

    Speaking of Kansas their recruiting class includes two tall white tight ends and two speedy white wide receivers! That is a surprise. Probably mentioned somewhere above but still wanted to mention them.

    Luke Grimm is a 6'0" 175 deep threat type and the smaller Kyler Pearson ( 5'8" 150) is clearly a quick slot player.
     
  3. mattgianone

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    Here is a weird one for the ages. Wyett Ekeler form Colorado has signed to play rb or db for Wyoming. This kid is absolutely white. He looks like a Hitler youth which ain't such a bad thing. The last name kind of struck me and true to my thoughts he is the half brother of NFl rb Austin Ekeler. They have the same mother. How his mother got tangled up with a black guy and moved to a white one is beyond me but I hope this kid pans out as a rb. Wyoming has another rb who moved up to second string in the last game in Brett Brenton. I have wanted to talk about him months ago because he was tearing it up as a true freshman this year on limited carries. He was the Wyoming state high school player of the year and he is fast and elusive in the Idaho's Nick Romano mold.
     
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  4. mattgianone

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    A little more on Wyett Ekeler. He ran a legit 4.42 forty at a U. Colorado camp this summer. He is also REALLY explosive. How he is being possibly going to wind up in a defensive backfield is beyond me. It would be nice in a few years if he and Brett Brenton run 1 and 2 for Wyoming. Also Wyoming wr Gunner Gentry will be back from injury as he was averaging over 30 yards a catch before he got injured early this season.
     
  5. Bucky

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    Funny you bring this up. I checked out Wyoming's recruiting class a couple days ago and noticed the same thing. I guess the Ekeler's got their athletic genes from their mom. He's definitely a guy to keep an eye on. Wyoming has a nice Pipeline to Colorado for recruiting.
     
  6. Shadowlight

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    Huge get today. Nebraska just signed safety Isaac Gifford younger brother of Luke ( Cowboys special teams). Gifford is a tremendous athlete with 4.4 speed and a near 40 inch vertical. I don't know what the hell HC Scott Frost was doing in Florida but he is slowly but surely gaining my respect now. Keep in mind I was a huge fan of his as a player so this turn of events is music to my ears. Maybe it is a result of all his talks with Tom Osborne, one of the greatest and smartest coaches of all time. A man I respect.

    Signing day is tomorrow.
     
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  7. Shadowlight

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    With Addazio now at the helm you notice the difference right away. Albeit one or two of these guys may have committed prior to Addazio's arrival. Not sure. Other white recruits coming in include TE Dylan Walker and Colorado Gatorade Player of the Year RB Tanner Hollens. Plus WR/Athlete Henry Blackburn ( mentioned above).

    But it looks like the caste full
    ahead approach of former HC Bobo is in the rear view mirror.
     
  8. white lightning

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    Thanks for the update brother. We need some more good news like this around here. Very happy to hear that. This will team a team to watch in the very near future.
     
  9. mattgianone

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    I'm sure that has been discussed earlier somewhere but not only does UCLA have 2 wr's coming in, granted one might be slightly Hispanic ( Logan Loya ) and the other looks like he is half Asian ( Matt Sykes ) I am really high on incoming safety Jake Newman. This kid could be a shutdown corner. I don't watch a lot of db highlights but this kid is really impressive. He may never get a shot at corner but he has all the tools and that innate awareness most dbs don't have.
    It looks like Utah has signed a coupe of
     
  10. Leonardfan

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    Looking over the recruiting rankings - just some observations:

    Going through the Top 10 - pretty much strictly caste recruiting - some white OL and TEs but almost nothing else.

    The Cuckeyes get a 4 star white QB recruit and a 4 star black QB recruit - why the white recruit decided to commit there is beyond me.

    Alabama gets a 5 star white athlete in Drew Sanders - my guess is they put him at the caste TE position. They also recruit a 5 star quotaback who is 5'11 180 lbs.

    Clemson with a fairly crap recruiting class - getting a mystery meat poly QB. I wish DT Bryan Breese would of selected a big ten school.

    A&M recruits a white QB under Jimbo Fisher - I think the last time Fisher coached a white QB was Christian Ponder.

    Texas recruits a 4 star white QB and a DT - Sawyer Goram-Welch.


    Teams 10-20

    Notre Dame has a respectable recruiting class - 2 DEs, WR, 2 TEs and a 4 Star QB in Drew Pyne

    Michigan - Haurbaugh still cannot remember what led him to building a talented Stanford program. They did sign one 3 star white QB, have one 3 star QB hard commit, Two TEs, one DE and an RB in Gaige Garcia. However the offensive line and defensive line are mostly neglected.

    Penn St - very caste - 3 white commits (LB, OT, ATH) in a 27 player class

    Washington - They have a decent class - QB/4 OL/2 LB/1 ATH/2 TEs but all safely within the realm of caste positions

    Tennessee - 1 QB and a 1 center out of 21 player class

    South Carolina - 1 QB out of a 17 player class

    Miami - 1 QB and 1 ATH out of an 18 player class

    Oregon - 1 QB - they have a quota recruit too, OLB, OG and DE

    North carolina - that old caste stooge mack brown might of lost his mind - 9/25 commits are white including WR Stephen Gosnell

    Teams 20-30

    Nebraska - Scott Frost isn't helping his case much - at least he is bringing in a white QB - Logan Smothers and has some solid transfers coming in. Shadowlight also mentioned S Luke Gifford. Way too much recruiting from FL and TX. He did get two D-linemen though.

    Florida St - Two white QB recruits and a white d-linemen. 6 out of 17 - Ole Massa Bowen must be going crazy!

    Stanford - probably the most disappointing news was that Emmit Smith's son decided to go to Stanford. This will probably hamper the chances RB Casey Filkins gets but I'll be optimistic at this point. 9 of 19 recruits are white including 2 WRs and a DT with a hard commit from a DE.

    Kentucky - white QB for Stoops to screw over and a white OT. 2/20

    Ga Tech - QB, OT and TE. But dey got dem dat steal with an updside quotaback too.

    Miss St - QB and OT - expected a little more from their coach Joe Moorhead

    Wisconsin - 11/19 - none at any unexpected positions but with they way the recruit they won't be experiencing any down seasons.

    Maryland - "Players coach" Mike Locksley has one white WR - Nick DeGennaro out of his 23 player class.

    UCLA - Chip Kelly looks to slowly be correcting the poor recruiting done by Mora - one white QB, 2 white WRs, one DE, one LB, 1 DB as a hard commit and a few white OL.

    TCU - Another fairly pathetic Gary Patterson recruiting class. They do have one white WR - Blake Nowell

    Purdue - Brohm continues to build a caste leaning program. Disappointed to say the least.

    Teams 31-40

    Iowa - another solid but safe recruiting class. Ferentz does not seem to want to get out of his comfort zone and recruit whites at caste positions. Can't really complain though 9/20 is not terrible.

    Utah - An actual pleasant surprise after years of poly and black infestation - 6 white recruits - 2 defensive ends, 2 safeties and a white LB. They also have Jake Bentley transferring in at QB although I don't trust Whittingham as he let 4 star QB Jack Tuttle out of the program last year.

    Minnesota - PJ Fleck with a disappointing class - 5 out of 23 - 2 DEs, 2 LBs and a TE. Fleck needs to row the boat away from inner cities when he recruits.

    California - a decent class for Justin Wilcox - 2 QBs including a dual threat, 1 ATH, 2 TEs, 1 LB, 1 WE in Mason Mangum

    Colorado - Mel Tucker doing his best Bryce Bobo impersonation - almost completely ignoring the state of colorado in recruiting

    Arizona St - Caste clown Herman Edwards keeps at it - 1 OT and 1 hard commit in WR Ryan Morgan - out of 15 total recruits

    West Virginia - 1 QB Garrett Greene and 1 WR Reese Smith are the only highlights in the caste hell.

    Northwestern - Another as expected class - 7 of 16 - no real caste busters but at least Fitgerald is not selling out

    Ole Miss - 1 QB and 1 OT with one TE transfer.

    Lousiville - 1 QB and 1 WR Nick Malito highlight this class. Scott Satterfield turning into another full bored head cuck.

    Teams 41-50

    Oklahoma St - Mike Gundy surprised with 9/18 white recruits - 4 star QB Shane Illingworth, 2 LBs and S Zach Middleton are players to keep an eye on

    Pitt - Narduzzi with a goose egg - 0/15

    Michigan St - big step back for the embattled Dantonio. He did mention to get an asian QB though lol. 4 white defenders - 2 DE and 2 LBs as well.

    Iowa St - dreaded double dipping with QBs here with 4 star Hunter Dekkers and 3 Star Aidan Bouman both committing. 1 WR in Aidan Bitter and two OLBs. Looks like 9/20 total

    Texas Tech - 2/18 - another big 12 joke

    NC State - 1 QB and 2 OL - SEClite

    Kansas - Les Miles keeping the roster black and most likely unsuccessful - does just about all the recruiting outside of the state. 1 white WR did commit - Kyler Pearson

    Oregon St - Double dipping in white QBs again - other than that not much to get excited about. They recruited a few white TEs and a white LB. Have a white DT transfer from Air Force

    Kansas St - Chris Klieman disappoints some - at least he recruited a white QB. For those who do not know Klieman was the coach of the very white and dominant North Dakota State team's that won several national championships. He did not recruit any whites outside of caste positions.

    Indiana - Tom Allen looks to become another white QB sellout. I hope Jack Tuttle gets out of Indiana. Allen will recruit white OL though.
     
  11. TwentyTwo

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    Excellent Breakdown Leonardfan...& Some wonder why the NFL is not whiter?? THIS is where it starts!
    >>>> Recruiting Services<<<<
    Not ONE White RB in "Top 100" (24 7 Sports) ...not until #107 Bruce Garrett (Texarkana TX) headed to BYU! Then not another til' #140 Gaige Garcia to MICHIGAN

    >>There are 32 NFL Teams...IF each team were Start Three WR's = 96......IF they are going by "24 7 Sports"...there would be ONLY THREE WHITE STARTING WIDE RECEIVERS????
    Ranked #22 John Humphries 6'-5" 205 to STANFORD
    #64 Logan Loya(part hispanic?) to UCLA
    #70 Bryce Farrell 5'-11" 170 to STANFORD
    >>>>Guess that's where an obscure prospect like a Adam Theilen (D2 Minn-Mankato) or a Cooper Kupp from FCS Eastern Washington comes in ??...so far down the Recruiting List ...they are not on a list!

    Nice to see Oklahoma State bucking the trend!

    Alabama Signing "TWO" white defenders has been an eye opener ...ATH/Edge Rusher Drew Sanders is an Elite talent((he was emphatic on playing Defense) & LB Jackson Bratton. Not sure the last time this happened? The Crimson Tide D struggled plenty this season without one ever playing ; Not always the automatic winning formula! what do they have to lose??

    According to 24 7 Sports the #1 Player in the Nation is D-Tackle Brian Bresee (6-5" 290) Signed with CLEMSON(Whitest Power 5 Team on Defense? w Iowa & Wisconsin?). In the state of Maryland he is the ONLY white player listed in the Top 50...insane!

    6'-7" TE Kole Taylor (from Grand Junction CO) to LSU is an intriguing prospect ....

    DB's
    Nate Ritchie (6'-3" 200) & Ben Renfro to UTAH...
    Ben LaBrosse to SYRACUSE
    Tyler Venables to CLEMSON
    Isaac Gifford to NEBRASKA ....Yes indeed Shadowlight!
    Jake Newman to UCLA ...Mentioned above; plenty of upside
    Ryan Kilburg to WESTERN MICHIGAN
    Teagan Wilk to EAST CAROLINA
    Zach Middleton to OKLAHOMA STATE
    Luke Marion to UTAH STATE....& former Boise State RB Keegan Duncan (6'-3" 220) also going to UTAH STATE

    D-Tackle Nash Hutmacher from South Dakota is going to NEBRASKA
    LB Will Norris to MISSOURI
     
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  12. Shadowlight

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    Thanks for the big summary. It is quite a chore sifting through the caste heavy jungle like environment out there so I give you credit for plowing through the maze. It is like a huge wall of sound with just a few little morsels to hang onto.

    Originally Kansas had two WR commits, which I had recently brought up, but speedster Luke Grimm pulled out at the last second and reopened his recruitment. New schools include Kansas State and Iowa State and several non Power 5 schools. Probably won't know until February.

    UCONN recruited a mobile white QB from Canada and a white TE along with two white DEs. That is almost an advance for them which signifies how bad things still are out there.

    Yes too many teams are sticking to the caste recruiting formula which doesn't bode well for us here at CF hoping for changes in the right direction.

    ( And thanks to TwentyTwo for the additional info see above.)
     
  13. Leonardfan

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    There isn't much in the recruiting that deviates from the college write-ups. The SEC is the SEC - very anti-white - no surprise there. Boise State is a goner - a perennial favorite here at CF is gone for good. There is no Christian McCaffrey effect (yet?) as most schools have ignored white RBs. Most recruits are at QB, OL or TE. I have noticed a number of white players with the athlete designation - my guess is they will end up at TE/LB or DE. The MAC may be doing a little bit of self-correction - I see some white WRs and DBs mixed in which is a little promising.

    Some players of interest I came across:
    RB Lincoln Pare Arkansas State
    RB Joey Formani Bowling Green
    S Ryan Kilburg Western Michigan
    S Giacomo Iraci Western Michigan
    S Maxen Hook Toledo
    S Teagen Wilk ECU
    APB Jared Cole UMASS
    CB Joe Lusardi UMASS
     
  14. Shadowlight

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    The Ivy League isn't especially forthcoming with their commitments, kind of like the service academies but three names readily stick out. Two of them have been mentioned here at CF before.

    WR Jackson Hensley -Harvard. From a rural area in Kentucky his family is ecstatic he will be at Harvard. 4.4 speedster who also played baseball but ultimately chose football. Ran a 6.53 in the 60 yard dash.

    RB-Miko Maessner-Princeton. Think Zane Dudek who was a high school superstar in Pennsylvania. Like Zane, Miko was shunned by his home state of Nebraska and ended up at an Ivy League school. Miko is a sprint star and has great deep speed.



    WR-Josh Casilli-PENN. Right in Don's backyard I believe this 4.4 sprinting flash looks to continue the mini tradition that WR Justin Watson started at PENN. 6 feet and 180 pounds.


    All three of these players are Division One talents.
     
  15. Bucky

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    Wilson Kelly, From Boyle County, Kentucky is a guy I was initially very excited about. 6'1 260 with cat like quickness he was a Beast along the Defensive Line. He committed to Middle Tennessee State(his only offer) to play Center.. I hate when this happens. The guy had 84 tackles, 4sacks, and 23 Tackles for Loss as SR! So let's go ahead and move him to his caste appropriate position of OL!

    Same thing happened to another KY DL in Austin Collins that is going to Louisville to play OL, despite originally being listed as a DE.

    https://m.amnews.com/2019/12/03/wil...ides-of-the-ball-to-earn-lineman-of-the-year/

    **Also noticed WR Luke Grimm Committed once again to Kansas giving them 2WRs in their class.
     
  16. Bucky

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    Ohio landed another Kittrell Brother, in Bryce. Both of his older bros were Bobcats. 5'10 185lb Running back from Nebraska.

    Also Minnesota landed a talented Athlete from Illinois in Finnigan Schirmer. 6'2 200lbs. 10.62 100Meter! So of course they'll be bulking him up to play OLB.. Not sure if they offered or if he's a Walk-on.
     
  17. Shadowlight

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    Not a ton on TV early today. Some crap bowl game. Drearily raining here as I wait for the two NFL games later and a few college basketball games featuring teams I have interest in like Duke, Arizona and Gonzaga this evening.

    I am not a big fan of All Star games and even though NFL prospects are at play I struggle to get through events like the East West Shrine game or even the Senior Bowl. I admit I do like the NFL Combine as long as there are players of interest for me and I try to watch the entire draft.

    That said at 1:00 today on NBC there is the All American Bowl. As expected trying to find white players apart from drop back QBs, OL and of course kickers, is generally a hollow exercise in futility. Still for those inclined here below are some names to follow. Most have been mentioned here at CF.

    For the East:

    DT Bryan Bresee-Clemson #44

    TE-Michael Mayer-Notre Dame #87

    For the West:

    DE Logan Jones -Iowa #94

    DE Van Fillinger- Utah #91

    DE-Blasie Gunnerson- Nebraska #24 ( Its a good sign Frost zoned in on a quality defensive player)

    APB-Casey Filkins- Stanford #19 ( Anxious to get a first look at a player much discussed here)

    WR-John Humphreys- Stanford #86 (Rangy deep threat)
     
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    I watched most of the high school all star game...
    I saw Filkins run 4 times....8, 6,6 and a zero as time ran out.....
    4-20 ish. One for a td.
    There may have been more carries,...

    They had good things to say about Bresee.
    Mayer had a catch, I believe for a td.

    Ayden Hector had some action, upon further review he’s not all white....
    I thought maybe Shadowlight forgot someone......
    Heading to Stanford along with Casey....
    The high yellows that don’t act ghetto are certainly better than all coal....
    Maybe we can start watching the Cardinal again.....
    I’m still very curious as to the Smith/Filkins dynamic and how it will play out......
     
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    Jackson Hensley commits to Wake Forest - I believe he was initially going to go the Ivy route to Harvard.
     
  21. Shadowlight

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    Today is "National Signing Day" although it seems most players have already signed earlier see posts up above that give breakdowns of some of the important moves by schools etc.

    Having trouble finding any significant white signings today but I did run across one shocker. Georgia just signed WR Ladd McConkey. He is 5'11 and around 165 pounds. He is seen as a speedy slot type and has some potential. Is a three star recruit which means he could become a starter. He is a local talent.

    Perhaps there are some white gems committing today but for whatever reason I can't zone in on what is going on?
     
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    Tough to sift through the stuff today because I often can't tell if commits are from December. But if I am reading this right BYU brought in a nice late haul. Of course with BYU there are two year mission issues. But below are what I think are late signs:

    WR Devin Downing

    DB Dean Jones

    DB Ty Burke

    LB John Nelson ( related to ex USC DE Porter Gustin)

    LB Tate Romney-has already said he is going on a two year mission
     
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    Conner Lewis is a 2020 CB prospect out of Arizona who has terrific speed and displays great range and CB skills. he had a fabulous high school career. The big boys have stayed away although it looks like several big schools will be charitable and offer him preferred walk on status. So sweet of them.

    I would like to do a psychological test. Would coaching staffs prefer to be exposed to the coronavirus or offer a scholarship to a white cornerback prospect? This would really put them on the spot wouldn't it? Would they rather risk contracting a terrible virus that might even kill them or succumb to allowing a white player on their team playing a taboo position.

    Just guessing here but I suspect they would opt for the virus.
     

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