Christian McCaffrey

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  1. Thrashen

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    Last night, Christian McCaffrey became the first white RB selected in the 1st round of the NFL Draft since Tommy Vardell in 1992.

    It seems like Head Coach, Ron Rivera, and GM Dave Gettleman are very impressed with him. In an interview after Christian was drafted, the two offered some of the highest praise I've ever seen for a white athlete, let alone a RB. They compared him to Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Curtis Martin, and LeSean McCoy. Gettleman even stated that McCaffrey is the best tackle-box runner he's ever seen...

    "What I think is very unique about Christian is – the best tackle-box runner I’ve ever seen is Curtis Martin when he came out of Pitt. Christian is right there with him. Running in that tackle box takes unique vision and unique foot quickness and he’s got it. Curtis Martin had it. He had a great career, a Hall of Fame career. This kid has that kind of skill."

    http://www.panthers.com/news/articl...cCaffrey/6b07e57a-a331-4c44-b41d-e4eb8d27bd25

    The Panthers are a decent running team and don't have much in the way of a slot receiver or pass-catching RB. They also have little in the kick/punt return department. The black starter, Jonathan Stewart, is now 30 years old and has missed numerous games in 6 out of his 9 NFL seasons due to a litany of injuries. In that time, he's had only one 1,000-yard season and that was in 2009.

    Once again, congratulations to Christian on defeating an entrenched Caste System that has ruined the career's of hundreds (thousands if you count high school players) of white RB's over the past 30+ years. His talent was so immense that even their rigidly anti-white propaganda machine couldn't deny him what was rightfully his. May he succeed in every conceivable way...

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  2. Extra Point

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    Caff's future success is going to be a big blow against the caste system.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    McCaffrey can be the greatest running back ever, much like J.J. Watt may be the greatest defensive end ever, but if the scouting services don't change, and recruiting and scholarship patterns don't change, and if the NFL scouts and the NFL draft doesn't change, and if the media doesn't change, then the Caste System doesn't change. White defensive ends are still as marginalized as they were when Watt entered the league, and going back further, around '09 all four All Pro starting DEs were White. But nothing changed for White defensive ends, not in the minds of DWFs nor in recruiting patterns and opportunities at major college programs. If he succeeds McCaffrey will be regarded as a freak, much like Jordy Nelson is, and will even be used to enforce the Big Lie that if a White player is good enough, he'll get every opportunity to succeed.

    But it is great to see a White running back break through, and get the chance to become a star.
     
  4. Ambrose

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    The dindus will likely attack his knees every chance they get.
     
  5. Shadowlight

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    Don is right that a few here and there have not changed the overall caste death grip dynamic that has it's hold on the NFL. But of course having a few here and there beats having none. Have to start somewhere. It would take wholesale cultural changes all the way up the food chain and more to make a proper dent in the current day caste layout. Multiple white skill RB's and WR's superstars and just more in terms of raw numbers of good to very good WR's and RB's would help. That is why all of us here keep hoping for more WR's to get drafted.
    As for Ambrose's point I have always felt that too many black players try to knock out white WR's with head and knee shots. It is dirty pool and I am sick of it.
     
  6. celticdb15

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    In defense of defenders. Sometimes its the most logical and necessary way to hit a ball carrier low especially if they're physically bigger. I consider it somewhat cheap but better than head hunting? Idk complicated issue, I don't want flag football but momentum is a factor in a lot of these plays!

    ** With that being said I can't wait to Cmac in open space! Injuries are part of the game just stinks when an elite talent like McCaffrey comes along and is considered the "The Great White Hope." We can't afford an injury to him because we don't have the depth to replace a talent like him! No disrespect to Crossan and Craine!
     
  7. Extra Point

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    It's the job of the announcers to point out dirty play but they never do when the victim is white.

    I remember when Jordy Nelson was speared in the ribs in the playoffs and not a peep out of the announcers.
     
  8. white lightning

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    I'm so/so with the pick of Christian M. to the Panthers. I think they will use him to do punt and kick returns which will limit some of his chances at running back. He will be used in the slot sometimes which I can live with. I guess the main thing is for him to get to play but I would much rather see him get over 100o yards rushing than all the other accolades. Hopefully Carolina, understands the elite talent that he is? Time will tell but at the end of the day we can't complain too much about him being selected in the top 10 picks! None of us could have possibly imagined that. Good luck the this athletic freak who has the brains to match. A potential superstar with out a doubt if used correctly.
     
  9. Deceptive Speed

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    If only Carolina had a white QB, they would probably be my most exciting team to watch next season! Even with Scam I will watch their games!
     
  10. whiteathlete33

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    Or like Mike Trout is the best baseball player ever.
     
  11. Shadowlight

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    I know there has been some back and forth on whether it was a good thing Christian landed in Carolina. But as I researched it I realized that Carolina is arguably one of the best teams for him. Firstly this is where he WANTED to land and we should not discount that.
    Now if you scratch out all of the teams that play on artificial turf, and my understanding is Christian wanted no part of playing home games on a non grass field and I respect that, it does not leave that many desirable teams left. In fact I can only think of two other teams that I might have wanted him to get drafted by outside of Carolina: Green Bay and Philadelphia. The only other team that would barely make that list is Washington.
    I am thankful he did not land in these cities below.
    Pitt--they are all set at RB
    Miami
    Cleveland
    Houston
    Jacksonville
    Tenn.
    Denver
    KC--would be acceptable but I prefer Carolina
    Oakland
    LA Chargers
    Chicago
    Tampa Bay
    Arizona
    LA Rams
    San Fran.
    To me most of these grass field teams are either too dull or too far removed from key media hubs to make them worthwhile.
    So count me at least as one who is pleased he landed with the Panthers.
     
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    NFL to me is becoming watch the players I like and am interested in versus the old love of the game. So make the Panthers a must watch team for me as was any team that had Danny on the roster.
     
  13. Extra Point

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    I think because he is a flashy player he's going to draw a lot of attention to the fact that white men can be great athletes.

    If he's successful, and there's every indication he will be, he'll be a huge caste buster.
     
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    McCaffrey will not change a ripple of flow. To the hundreds of millions of white Americans Trout seems almost unknown; Klitschkos are unknown; Lomachenko is unknown, Maradona is something Italians eat on a sandwich, Bird is a creature that flies, Ruth is a woman's name, and so it goes. The Caste system is not simply a matter of exclusion, it is perfected in how absent the minds of men are made.
     
  15. Carolina Speed

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    To some degree I agree with you Ambrose when it comes to Football, Basketball, and maybe boxing however, although Trout is still widely unknown or many do not appreciate what he's doing. I think baseball can still be saved. Bryce Harper is widely known and I think people generally know who Babe Ruth was. Harper could possibly be the next Ruth. Trout suffers a lot from being on the west coast and many people just don't get to see him, although it seems everyone knew Bonds. I understand what you're saying. How many white people know that a white man leads the league in stolen bases and triples? Feats that are typically reserved for faster blacks. Three or four of the fastest players in MLB are white, but it seems lost in their minds.
    I hope McCaffrey does well, but even if he does, it will take a long, long time and many more McCaffrey's to make much of a change. Again, the only reason we're getting to see McCaffrey is because of his dad. There are many more as good or better who will never get the chance.
     
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    Look at the way Frank Thomas and Griffey were hyped up. Trout receives a tenth of the media attention.
     
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    I spoke to a trucker the other day who had sports junk all over the inside of his cab -he couldn't even tell me who Mike Trout is.:eek:
     
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    Christian McCaffrey's speed stands out in Panthers' rookie minicamp

    by David Newton

    The first thing you notice about Carolina Panthers first-round draft pick Christian McCaffrey is he’s fast.

    Not just sneaky fast.

    Real-time fast.

    You couldn’t really see that when the former Stanford running back ran the 40-yard dash in 4.48 seconds at the NFL combine.

    But put him on the field with other players, as he was on Friday, the first of a two-day rookie minicamp, and most of those around him look like they’re moving in slow motion.

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    McCaffrey, it seems, has played fast since he began playing football for the Douglas County Dolphins in a suburb of Denver, where his father, Ed McCaffrey, was a star receiver for the Broncos. That also was the first time he wore No. 22, which he resurrected at Carolina.

    He wore No. 5 at Stanford.

    McCaffrey will return to Colorado after this camp to continue his training. He can’t resume working out with the team until June because Stanford is on a quarter system.

    But the Panthers and McCaffrey have plans to stay in touch, including via Skype.

    Judging by the number of television cameras and reporters lining the sideline on Friday, McCaffrey is generating the most rookie camp excitement this organization has seen since Newton was the first pick of the 2011 draft.

    McCaffrey enjoyed every minute of it, the same way middle linebacker Luke Kuechly enjoys every practice.

    full article: http://www.espn.com/blog/carolina-p...-speed-stands-out-in-panthers-rookie-minicamp
     
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    I don't know about you men around here, and if I'm wrong I'm not shy to admit it, but it seems the NFL board of governors may be getting worried about the eroding fan base, with the future starting to look too dark, and maybe they will start to let a little more light onto the field? After all, what is the sense of a Caste system if fewer and fewer are noticing or even caring?
     
  20. Don Wassall

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    Well, the just completed draft saw just 17% Whites picked, and the NFL's TV ratings and attendance figures are still very healthy, head and shoulders above those of any other league, and it remains incredibly profitable for the owners. There's an endless parade of black players accused of serious crimes and the DWFs are still as loyal to the league as ever. The occasional White "outlier" only props up the lie that if a White football player is good enough he'll get the same opportunity as a black one. I see no worries at all about the Caste System currently. About the only thing that can cause real damage are the Colin Kaepernick communist/BLM activist types that offend the misplaced patriotism of DWF Nation and that seems to have tamped down quite a bit.
     
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    TV and cable are in decline. The ESPN layoffs are strong evidence of this, and TV ad revenue is moving to the net.

    Fed-Up Advertisers Stop Paying More for Smaller TV Audiences
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-stop-paying-more-for-declining-tv-audiences

    While NFL ratings are better than most TV content, and the Superbowl always does well, the ratings can only reflect a percentage of the viewership. As the viewership is declining, a high rating is only a high percentage of a smaller group, which means fewer are watching.

    As whites are still only 20-25% of the league, at best, where will the new customers come from in the next 10 years? It can't be ignored that young men these days are not interested in sports in the same way their fathers are/were. But, maybe too many minds have already been made up these past 30 years and the present course is irreversible? Maybe a long slow decline is inevitable and when the the football industry realizes they've lost generations of interest it will be too late?

    One thing certain, one thing is incontestable, that if whites leave the football industry in large numbers, the industry will collapse in the hands of blacks just like the mostly black cities of America have all but collapsed into ruin.
     
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    If and when the White fan base starts to significantly erode, the NFL might do something about the Caste System. But look at ESPN -- all the problems it's having with declining viewership and profitability yet it's even more fanatically anti-White than ever. Committed change agents -- whether at ESPN, the NFL, or anywhere else in society -- have no intention of suddenly not being anti-White.

    As far as the NFL, it's more profitable than ever, it's far and away the most popular sports league in the U.S., and there are no indications that the Caste System is being changed. The owners are making money hand over fist, and when they sell a team they make hundreds of millions of dollars, soon billions.

    And as we have noted many times, the Caste System starts well below the NFL level. If the Caste System changes, it has to begin with ending racial slotting in high school and below, with the scouting services grading White high school football players fairly, and with the major college programs recruiting fairly and developing players fairly, as well as media attitudes changing. And if by some miracle all that began to happen, it would still take four or five years for the effects of it to be seen on the NFL Draft. When a White starting running back is as rare in big-time college ball as in the NFL, there isn't going to be any influx of "Christian McCaffrey types" into the NFL anytime soon.
     
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    Don had mentioned above that the occasional "outlier" white skill player does little to change the caste dynamic. With Christian we will have to wait and see if he is a trend starter for white RB's. We have seen some encouragement in the area of some young white RB's taking a cue from Christian so that is a step in the right direction any way you slice it. A very good comparison would be Jason Sehorn the outstanding CB for the Giants. Like Christian, Sehorn was on an island but was a terrific athlete. It kills me to this day that MNF's Joe Theismann , who was a horror show caste clown, said that Sehorn reminded him of Woodson the Pitt CB but with "less speed." Which was most likely an incorrect statement. Anyway Sehorn had no coat tails. He was the last true white CB to play in the NFL and that was back in the 1990's early 2000's. for crying out loud. I don't see the Christian coat tale situation turning that sour since there are some white RB's in the NFL and secondarily there are some ( not enough by any stretch) college RB's who have potential to reach the NFL. Only time will tell but if Christian performs well which I believe he will then the odds are better that other white RB's would emerge. Not an avalanche, who am I kidding, but hell at this point I will settle for three more Christian type white RB's starting in the NFL any day.
     
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    I like Christian McCaffrey, but looking at him on his tv interviews he looks small maybe it was the camera angle or the guy size doing the interview. It just makes me worry about how he will hold up to a 16 game schedule.
     
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    I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but the NFL won't change until the major college programs change their deeply embedded discrimination when it comes to recruiting and playing White football players. How did Christian McCaffrey even get the chance to play at Stanford? He's the son of a well-connected former NFL star, his family is close and very well-off financially, and Christian had the academic ability to attend a prestigious university, which is the rough FBS equivalent to the New England Patriots in that it is virtually alone in playing Whites at verboten positions such as tailback (Gerhart and McCaffrey) and fullback (Tommy Vardell and others). For every Christian McCaffrey, how many other outstanding White high school running backs have never gotten an opportunity? The number is very large.

    Carolina Speed recently posted about how many different college recruiters told he and his son, a tremendous high school running back, to their face that they don't offer scholarships to White running backs. Over the years CF has posted numerous newspaper articles along the same lines. I mean, how much more open and blatant can racial discrimination be? To put it in very rough terms, we've documented that in about half the 50 states each year, the leading high school running back is White -- but how many of them get scholarship offers to run the ball at major programs vs. how many of the black ones do?

    The NCAA is so ripe for a class action lawsuit on behalf of White football players. The evidence if properly collected and presented is overwhelming. It will take either that or some as of now unlikely sea change in public opinion and grassroots action to force a colorblind policy when it comes to recruiting scholarship athletes in football, basketball and track. There's a large number of Americans who oppose affirmative action when it comes to academic admissions and scholarships, but 99% of them swallow whole the myth of extreme black athletic superiority and never think to question what they see on the field of play in college ball despite how much it differs from upper-level high school play, where Whites more than hold their own at every position, though of course there is a lot of racial slotting in high school as well.

    Until that happens, the Christian McCaffreys will remain very rare outliers in college, which guarantees the NFL will continue to have very few White RBs, WRs, and defensive players in general. The major college programs are the linchpin of the Caste System, and also the most vulnerable to attack.
     

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