Chris Hogan

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  1. TwentyTwo

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    Is it any surprise WR Chris Hogan has burst onto the scene with newly named starting QB Kyle Orton the last three games?? He has more receptions in this time than his entire career!

    And with highlight-reel catches like last week; being the Top Catch of the Week...the future looks bright for Hogan!
     
  2. celticdb15

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    Indeed!! Keep defying the odds Chris. Exciting young player.
     
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    Here is some of a recent article of the former Lacrosse player....

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com...s-hogan-buffalo-bills-wide-receiver/17792985/

    It's no surprise that Hogan has begun to emerge since Kyle Orton was elevated to starting quarterback. Remember, when Orton arrived in late August, Hogan was deeper on the depth chart, and they formed a connection as Orton learned the offense.

    "Between me and him, when he first got here he was doing some scout team stuff with me, and that gave us a little more time to get more associated with each other; how he throws the ball, how I run routes, so that's definitely helped," said Hogan.

    All 12 of Hogan's receptions have been delivered by Orton, who became the starter three weeks ago in Detroit.

    "The key for me is going out there every Sunday knowing my assignment," Hogan said. "Kyle and I have a pretty good chemistry, he trusts me on the field to know what I'm supposed to do. I'm getting pretty good separation from the DBs and catching a few passes here and there, so that has a lot to do with the playing time I'm getting now."

    When Hogan looks back on his decision to play lacrosse in college, he admits that despite the success and the fun that he had, if he could go back in time he would have chosen to pursue football. But in the end, based on where he is now, it really didn't matter.
     
  4. Extra Point

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    When Hogan was with another team, Miami I think, he played very well in preseason. He acquired the nickname 7-11 because he was always open. He got cut anyway.

    He's been serving his racial apprenticeship for a couple of years and now he's finally getting a chance.

    He should have been starting a couple of years ago.
     
  5. Don Wassall

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    Interesting comment by the Bills' head coach Doug Marrone: “Chris was a guy – and I’ve never mentioned this to Chris – that you looked at and were looking for reasons why maybe he shouldn’t be on the team,â€￾ the Buffalo Bills’ coach said.

    Of course there's no downside to saying something like that. Lovie Smith said that Brock Forsey, one of the best college running backs of the past 20 years, "looked like a waterboy" with no repercussions. Bobby Bowden fell over laughing when asked if he'd ever recruit a White running back to Florida State. If Marrone would say the same thing about a black quarterback -- "Jamal was a guy you looked at and were looking for reasons why maybe he shouldn't be on the team" -- he'd be out of a job in a New York second.

    The rest of this article about Hogan is good but predictable:

    Hogan leaps at opportunities with Bills

    http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/hogan-leaps-at-opportunities-with-bills-20141024
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    Hogan is one of the few good stories this season along with Bersin down in Carolina. It's amazing how Hogan's effectiveness went up once Orton was given the starting job. I wish him a healthy and productive rest of the season.
     
  7. Thrashen

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    This comment makes no sense. Chris isn’t some diminutive slot receiver. He’s a big-bodied 6-1, 215 lbs, runs a 4.39 40, and did an amazing 28 reps at 225 lbs.

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    I’d compare his body type to that of Jeremy Maclin...

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    I heard about Hogan’s Casteon torture-session in Miami at CF, but never saw him play until this season (and briefly last season). The guy simply has “it.” He’s delivers in the clutch and he’s always open. Given the amount of teams he’s been screwed by over the years, his resiliency is impressive.
     
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    After yet another nice game against the Dolphins last night, Brian Biggane over at the “Palm Beach Post” gets a few Casteon digs in at Chris Hogan. Then, he cleverly utilizes several maddening, backhanded “compliments” about Hogan uttered by Bills head coach, Doug Marrone, during an interview several weeks ago…

    So, to recap, Chris Hogan has “many critics” and “actually looks smaller [than his listed height and weight] on the field.”

    First off, who on earth is criticizing an obscure player like Chris Hogan? He’s an undrafted fromer college walk-on currently playing on his 4th NFL team and he’s never received any significant playing time at WR until this season…where he’s been the 3rd or 4th receiver and playing on special teams.

    Despite this, he’s accrued nearly the same amount of receiving yardage as former 2nd round pick, Robert Woods (307 yards compared to 361 yards), he’s averaging a higher YPC than Woods (12.3 compared to 10), and has the same number of receiving TD’s as Woods (2). So which of these two players should have “many critics?”

    Now let’s address the height/weight fallacy. Hogan and Watkins are both listed at 6’ 1”, while Woods, one of frailest, weakest, least muscular receivers in the league, is listed at 6’ 0” (yeah, right). So why does the little twerp, Woods, avoid criticism for his physical attributes, even though he's shorter than Hogan? Oh, and then there’s the little fact that the “undrafted nobody,” Hogan, is much, much stronger than Woods (2nd rounder) and Watkins (1st rounder). Hogan did 28 reps at 225 lbs, Watkins did 16, and Woods did 14. So who’s the real weakling?

    Then there’s the inconvenient fact that Hogan actually ran a faster 40-yard dash (4.39 seconds) than Woods (4.42 seconds) and Watkins (4.43 seconds). But guess who’s forced to risk concussions playing in the slot?

    Hogan is being treated like a “kid brother” who’s lucky to even be in the NFL. In reality, he’s a reliable, strong, fast, athletic, up-and-coming player who earned his position the hard way and has been making the most of it in 2014...

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    Good stuff Thrashen. Damn good stuff.
     
  10. PHillisFan

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    A+ post. Hogan has the size,strength and speed to be a starting receiver. In two games Orton missed him wide open for a possible score. If only he were on a roster like NE. My fear is that if they go back to Manuel he will see no targets.
     
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    The Bills would be wise to move on from Manuel. Orton is still young for a QB and the Bills threw away their 1st rounder in 2015 last year on Watkins. Their should be some decent QBs on the FA market like Locker (who I feel has potential and is more hampered by injuries than talent) or drafting a qb in the 2nd/3rd round to groom.

    Hogan is probably the caste story of the year for us. He is a damn good WR and I am glad to see him proving all the caste whores wrong.
     
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    I ageee. I dont want to see Manuel's face again, but Orton is a pure statue in the pocket. He cant scramble to save his life. He will only succeed if Buffalo improves the O-line.

    I like Locker as a fit in Buffalo, but I can only see that happening if the new owner cleans house. The current coaching staff seems to like Manuel as the backup.
     
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    Here's another article on Hogan that follows the Caste script: He's "quite likely the most versatile all-around athlete on the Buffalo roster" and when he learned the Bills obtained Percy Harvin "his reaction was what you would figure from a great athlete: More competition is always a good thing," even though according to the article this great athlete is fighting just to make the roster after shining as the team's number three receiver last year when he finally got an opportunity. Even the title of the article is pathetically Castean -- the team mascot is "ready to battle" just to make the team:

    Chris Hogan ready to battle for Bills roster spot

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com...buffalo-bills-chris-hogan-competing/28868751/
     
  15. Freethinker

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    I would wager that Chris Hogan is surely the best athlete on the Bills. Now if you asked a DWF or a sports media pundit they would probably answer Sammy Watkins or Shady McCoy as they view "athleticism" through the narrow lens of running fast in a straight line. A rigidly stupid way to quantify athletic ability if ever there was one.

    Hogan possesses very good speed as well as lateral agility and leaping ability. He has great hand eye coordination and body control too. He has shown these skills on the football field. I recall he had an impressive number of reps on the bench press, showing an impressive strength to weight ratio. He showed strength in the homerun derby he won. His baseball display also highlights his hand eye coordination. In addition to all of this, he also played lacrosse, which many of the aforementioned skills again come into play.

    What other player on Buffalo can come close to matching this athletic ability?
     
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    Yeah, Hogan has the size (6' 1"), frame (215 lbs), strength (28 reps at 225) speed (4.39 40-yard dash), and can make tough catches in traffic...

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    The situation with Miles Burris and Chris Hogan (amongst countless other White NFL players) is why the NFL needs a "Moneyball" approach like MLB.
     
  18. Extra Point

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    Chris Hogan is a quality wide receiver who deserves to be a starter.

    Hopefully he'll get a chance this year.
     
  19. Italian Stallion

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    Hogan had a fine 2014 but....

    Chris Hogan deserves better.He really proved that he belongs starting in the NFL last season when he was finally given a chance.The leaping goaline grab in the waning seconds against Minnesota had me thinking about the 'white men can't jump" BS !!! That being said,now that we have Rex Ryan as a coach,I guarantee that Hogan gets cut.He keeps talking up China Doll Goodwin every chance he gets and brought Head Case Harvin in.Ryan is another in a long line of DWF coaches who are in total awe of the black athlete and is a true believer in their vast athletic superiority.This is the same man who cut Danny Woodhead.If my prediction comes true and is coupled with any QB on the roster other than Matt Cassel being the starter,I will sadly be a FORMER Bills fan !!!!
     
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    Bills are starting Cassell in first preseason game ,this should bode well for Hogan. Hope to see them develop chemistry throughout the year. As for Harvin he's an overrated,injury prone, wannabe thug. I predict he'll be lucky to play 8games this year based on his fragile ass track record.
     
  21. Extra Point

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    If Hogan was black Hogan would be a lock for a starting position. The fans and coaches would be expressing excitement about his prospects.

    Instead he seems to be in the position of having to fight for playing time, which is par for the course for white receivers.

    If I were the coach I'd name him one of my starting receivers and be done with it.
     
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    I seriously doubt Hogan was having a "disappointing camp." This is the media pushing an agenda as Hogan was seen as expendable as soon as the Bills acquired the delicate flower (and locker room poison) Percy Harvin. I read earlier that Hogan had dropped a couple of passes during a practice; that's undoubtedly the source of his "disappointing camp," because we all know black receivers are known for having hands of glue.

    From Weenieworld: Bills WR Chris Hogan wil miss 2-4 weeks with a knee sprain. He'll miss the rest of the preseason, putting his roster spot in serious jeopardy. Hogan is also dealing with a less serious ankle issue. He was having a disappointing camp prior to going down. Hogan's injury makes Marquise Goodwin the favorite for Buffalo's No. 4 receiver job.
     
  23. Leonardfan

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    It's amazing that someone like Hogan has to even fight for a 4th or 5th roster spot after the season he had last year. His story is proof positive of the caste sysem - I hope the Patriots are monitoring him.
     
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    This Is A Shame....

    ...but typical.The extremes these Marxist Media Mavens go to in promoting the agenda never ceases to amaze and disgust me.There is no way in hell Hogan was having a "rough" camp or anything even remotely close to it.WR coach Sanjay Lal has been heaping effusive praise upon Hogan since OTAs and just last week,Lal stated : "Chris Hogan is to me,every bit as good as ANY of the receivers on our roster in some of the things he's shown." Sanjay better be careful----Whaley may demand that Fat Rex fire him for such blasphemy !!!!

    Here's a link to the article : http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/08/15/bills-facing-a-tough-call-at-receiver/

    P.S.> Sanjay's quote is the only good part of the vile article.


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  25. white lightning

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    If they are dumb enough to cut him he should try Carolina who needs a receiver although I would rather see him go to a team like the Colts, Pats, or Eagles.
     

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