Chris Conte

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  1. Don Wassall

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    An "unnamed scouting director" calls Conte the best safety in the draft. It won't surprise me if both Conte and Chris Prosinski end up being the two best safeties in the 2011 draft if they are given a fair opportunity. The first DWF in the comments section predicts Conte will be a bust but other DWFs call him out.

    Chris Conte Not Only A Potential Impact Player... But Best Safety In The Draft?

    by Steven Schweickert

    When the Bears' third round pick was spent on Chris Conte, there was some mixed reaction. Trust me, I went back and looked. Our general consensus was that he was a depth, special teams, high-upside pick.

    But the National Football Post's Greg Gabriel went a bit higher on the effusive praise. He took a look at a few mid-to-late round draft picks he thinks might have an impact this season, and includes our very own Chris Conte among them. Follow me past the jump for his synopsis...

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    "I wrote after the draft that I didn't know much about Conte when the Bears drafted him. I sent a text to a scouting director asking him to tell me about Conte. He told me that he felt Conte might be the best safety in the draft. I trust this man's opinion very much, but still I decided to look at tape to form my own thoughts. All I can say is that he was right. Conte plays fast, has excellent instincts and is a hitter. He was a corner his first three years at Cal and because of that he has better man to man coverage skills than many safeties. With the Bears having the possibility of losing Danieal Manning, Conte may be in position to start soon." (Bold emphasis mine)

    I doubt Conte comes starting out of the gate; even if Manning goes, he's still behind Chris Harris and Major Wright. And with that said, I'm not so sure about him being the best safety in the draft, especially since he's only had one collegiate year as a safety. There's definitely hope for the kid, he has time to develop further as a safety, and it'd be great if we could look back on the draft and say "Yep, he was the best safety in the draft," but to say that now?

    If Conte can come out at the start of the year, play solid special teams and perform in rotational safety duties, I'll be satisfied with him this year.

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/20...otential-impact-player-but-best-safety-in-the
     
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    damn great and refreshing to hear that from (albeit anonymous) NFL scouting director, but is he going to get a chance for da Bears?
     
  3. TwentyTwo

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    Will there ever be another white CB (with a chance to start) in the NFL again?? Aggrevating to follow him his soph. & jr. seasons...hoping he's the next barrier-breaker like Jason Sehorn...then to move to Safety. Conte could make an ideal CB opposite Charles Tillman. It would be nice to see Conte & Steltz on the field at the same time! But maybe it's time for a change of scenery for him??


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    It certainly is very frustrating. I believe we only have one white cornerback starting in Division I college football this season, Brandon Hardin. At this rate it looks like a starting white corner in the NFL will never happen. If whites aren't playing corner at the Division I level no one is going to let them play corner in the NFL.
     
  5. mattgianone

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    There are a few white cornerbacks still out there. Greg Heban though played well at Indiana has been moved to free safety. I had a short facebook conversation with him and he told me the move to safety was becasue the coaches told him he played poorly. This coming from a guy who made first team freshman al american at cb on some sites. Matt Ernest was another starting white corner who has vanished. He should have been a starter for Indiana this year. RIchard King should have started at Army this year but was kicked off the team for a fight with a black divas entourage. ALex Lauricella of Tulane might start but that is still up in the air.
     
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    For whatever it's worth, Conte is playing some cornerback in the Bears training camp:

    And safety Chris Conte is worth keeping an eye on. The 2011 third-rounder was a corner prior to his senior season at Cal and was spotted Sunday leaving the inside-run drill, which involves safeties, and going down to work with the cornerbacks in one-on-one coverage drills. Conte has performed well in pass coverage throughout camp and I was told his evaluation as far as exact position is ongoing.

    Conte isn’t likely to move to corner per se but it’s apparent that the Bears are far from finished with their secondary.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/08/08/11/...anding_moon_v3.html?blockID=546707&feedID=661
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    We'll see what comes of this. The Bears have gone through a number of White safeties during the Hatie Smith regime and none have had a genuine opportunity to succeed.

    The Chicago Tribune reports the Bears will bench veteran safeties Chris Harris and Brandon Meriweather in favor of Major Wright and Chris Conte this week. The moves should come to the surprise of no one who watched Monday night's loss to the Lions. Harris looked incredibly slow in coverage. Meriweather was often out of position while continuing to lead with his helmet as a head-hunting tackler. The inexperienced Wright and Conte should represent an improvement in coverage, but this change may actually help Adrian Peterson in Week 6.
     
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    Figured it was only a matter of time before Harris would be replaced...HOW in the world did Meriweather ever make it to the Pro Bowl last year ahead of Eric Weddle?? Then get cut(by Patriots) so soon after?? Strange...

    Craig Steltz & Chris Conte could easily be the starters at BOTH Safety positions; but we would not want to accuse Hatie of being an Uncle Tom...
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    A team with a second-team All-Pro and two-time Pro Bowler as its safety tandem wouldn't seem to be a good place for a rookie safety to shine, right?

    Oh, how things change. Brandon Meriweather has stunk on ice and Chris Harris was released for poor play after returning from injury, leading to an opportunity for Chris Conte to show the world what he's got.

    How did he respond? By being the top-rated safety, according to ProFootballFocus. In his first start, Conte did allow a touchdown to tight end Kellen Winslow, Jr. but also stripped away a spectacular interception and allowed only two receptions as Josh Freeman and the Bucs attempted to pick on the young safety making his first start.

    Conte has two passes defended, an interception, and has allowed only an astounding 40.2 quarterback rating.

    Conte still has a ton of room for improvement, but it looks like GM Jerry Angelo and his blind squirrel have finally found a safety in the draft. It had to happen eventually.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-rookie-report-card-mid-season-edition/page/3
     
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    bad news, since we know any injury is very likely to cost a white player his job security:

    Bears FS Chris Conte has been diagnosed with a sprained foot, and is without a timetable for a return.

    It's possible Conte could be sidelined only 1-2 weeks, but that's obviously the season at this point. Brandon Meriweather will most likely start in Conte's place at free safety against the Packers.

    second report, maybe he will get his job back after all:

    Bears placed FS Chris Conte (foot) on injured reserve, ending his season.


    Conte suffered a sprained in foot in Week 15. Mistake-prone Brandon Meriweather is expected to rejoin the starting lineup against the Packers. The No. 93 overall pick in the 2011 draft, Conte helped stabilize the back end after taking over in mid-October. He should return as the starter in 2012.




     
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    Surprisingly, a black ESPN writer is objective enough to throw some serious compliments towards Conte. Hopefully he can stay healthy (as a skinny, natural CB forced to bulk up and play safety), because he seems to have all the skills needed to be a prime-time safety in the NFL.


    Writer also praises DWF whipping boy Craig Steltz a bit. Hopefully Steltz leaves via free agency, because there is no way Hatie will let two white safeties start full time....Best case scenario is Steltz moves on and starts elsewhere. Teams I'd love to see him go to go are the Patriots and Packers.


    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post?id=4675222
     
  12. Don Wassall

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    This article is more evidence that the NFL is obsessed with race and White football players that play positions other than QB and o-line are constantly taunted with the goal of making them feel inferior, with some Whites seemingly as bad as the blacks in that regard.


    Bears FS Chris Conte is focused on improving, not breaking stereotype

    BY JOE COWLEY


    Free safety Chris Conte isn’t the only white defensive back in the NFL. He’s not even the only one on the Bears’ roster.

    But given the few white starters at his position, he’s reminded of it almost daily.

    ‘‘Yeah, it’s always been a thing, you know,’’ Conte said with a laugh. ‘‘It’s not something that bothers me, and it shouldn’t be something that bothers anyone else. But it’s a thing.

    ‘‘I mean, [quarterback] Jay [Cutler] was just joking earlier, ‘Well, whenever Conte’s out there, the ball is going to his side because he’s the white guy.’ There’s always going to be that perception that white guys aren’t as athletic. It would be nice if people didn’t think like that, but that’s not realistic. I’m trying to prove those people wrong.’’

    Barring some sort of disaster in the next three weeks, Conte will get a chance to do just that. He hopes to pick up where he left off as a rookie last season — starting for the Bears at free safety.

    His to-do list starts with continuing to improve in the Bears’ cover-2. That means breaking on the ball better, taking better angles and doing less thinking and more reacting.

    The fact he plays a position more often occupied by an African-American player is way down on the list of things he thinks about. Just not everyone else’s.

    Conte heard things in college, especially when he was a cornerback at California.

    ‘‘Definitely heard it then,’’ Conte said. ‘‘I heard it from wide receivers, quarterbacks. . . . I remember my first game, playing against Tennessee. Erik Ainge was their quarterback, and he yelled to the defense, ‘You keep leaving that white boy out there at cornerback, we’re coming after him.’ ’’

    Ainge, by the way, is white.

    ‘‘Did they come at me?’’ Conte said. ‘‘They tried to. That was my first college game, and I did well against Tennessee.’’

    Being drafted in the third round by the Bears didn’t put an end to it. Not from the opposition, fans or even teammates.

    ‘‘I hear ‘Great White Hope’ all the time,’’ Conte said. ‘‘It’s funny to me. I don’t let things like that get to me.’’

    The NFL is as much a mental game as it is a physical one. Let meaningless jabs like those land cleanly, and a player can go from the starting lineup to the punt team quickly.

    What helps Conte is he doesn’t see color. That’s what makes him so open in talking about it.

    ‘‘I can joke about it and hear the jokes about it and not care,’’ Conte said. ‘‘The people that do have those types of issues with a certain player being a certain color, those are the people that I don’t get.’’

    Coach Lovie Smith couldn’t care less about Conte’s color — as long as he does what’s expected of him this season.

    ‘‘You want consistency as much as anything [at free safety],’’ Smith said. ‘‘You want playmakers. Chris Conte has a chance to be a very good football player. . . . He can cover a wide receiver. He’s not afraid to hit. You want to be locked in and see consistency at safety, and I think we’re going to get that.’’

    Consistency is what Conte is trying to chase down in camp right now.

    ‘‘I only played safety one year in college, then obviously last season,’’ he said. ‘‘The more you play it, there are so many little things you can get better at. The better you understand the angles, breaking on the ball, the better off you’ll be. That’s my focus.’’

    How about beating stereotypes?

    ‘‘I’m sure I’ll keep laughing at the comments,’’ Conte said. ‘‘I guess I’m holding it down for the white guys.’’

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/foot...on-improving-than-on-breaking-stereotype.html
     
  13. Thrashen

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    Instead of racially-denigrating teammate Chris Conte in practice, perhaps this plump, slack-jawed, skank-fornicating, ever-inebriated, mistake-prone, headcase diva quarterback should be more concerned with his own sorry “career.” After all, in 5.5 seasons as an NFL starter, his all-time best record was 10-5 (2010). He hasn’t made the Pro-Bowl since 2008, the season subsequent to his Favre-ian “trade drama” during that offseason. Watch for this chowder-brained dud to underperform (yet again) in Chicago in 2012, despite being “reunited” with his continuously-arrested girlfriend, Brandon Marshall…

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    Such a sweet remark from the silver-spoon, drug-addicted, drunken wigger, Ainge. Thankfully, this White Chocolate dolt washed out of the NFL within 2 years (and with the QB-deprived NY Jets, of all places). In those two years in the NFL, this hyper-clown was busted for recreational drug use, was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder (how fitting for someone who is sometimes-black, sometimes-white), was sent to rehab, and served a 4-game suspension. How apropos that such an unconditional loser (I could envision him palling around with his black teammates at Casteon Tennessee) had the nerve to yammer his ignorant racial insults at Chris Conte. Perhaps his rich uncle, Danny Ainge (GM of the Boston Celtics), could provide his little white-African nephew a cushy job?

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    Thrashen, I really hated the way Cutler would verbally abuse rookie wide receiver (and fellow German?) Dane Sanzenbacher last season...I don't know if he was trying to impress the "brothas" or if he felt it was only okay to berate a fellow white on television, but in a couple games I saw he was real tough when Dane didn't make a catch...If Dane missed a tough chance he'd get cold stares or a tongue-lashing from the vile Cutler. If one of the black receivers dropped an easy ball, Cutler would give them a nice pat on the @ss....He is reportedly very close to Bears WR Earl Bennett, who been his buddy (butt buddy?) for years, dating back to Vanderbilt. The Bennett/Cutler love affair leads me to believe Dane will have a tough time carving out a solid career in Chicago, as long as wigger Jay is around?

    Good points on Ainge. Glad that stupid sellout, wigger is gone from the NFL. Hopefully he's living in some ghetto gutter, where he can be around his "special friends" 24/7.
     
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    In case anyone thought I was kidding about Ainge, here are some quotes with regard to his heavy drinking, hardcore drug addictions, visits to rehab clinics, criminality, and (alleged) “bipolar disorder.” This self-abhorring, race-obsessed stooge is a real piece of work…





    Like I said…this needle-pricked numb-skull had the gall to call Chris Conte a “white boy” and imply that he’s slow and unathletic.
     
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    It could be that he expects more of Dane than the black receivers. He expects the affletes to drop easy passes, doesn't expect a White guy to drop it. I don't know if this is the reason Cutler does this but I have heard other quarterbacks saying this at a much lower level. But lets just trash White athletes that don't live up to our standards......I really don't think most of the Whites we cheer for are even close to our level, at least at qb oline. i would say their mindset is more like the avg dwf, shouldn't be held against them

    Doing pain killers does not make someone a wigger, or any drug use, espescially for someone who is bi polar. Plenty of teams hand out pain killers like its candy, how is a young man supposed to know the consequences? Heroin is just a pain killer, they extract morphine and throw acetone (spelling) on it and turns it to heroin, which crosses the blood brain barrier twice as fast when injected. People get prescribed stuff that is much stronger, like Fentanyl which is 40x stronger than heroin . Addiction does not make someone a wigger, its something very serious, like a disease. I am dissapointed for what he said about Conte but I don't hold anything else against him, or judge him for that in any way, that stuff is seperate.

    as far as Conte, let quarterbacks underestimate him and throw is way, will help him get more picks.
     
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    Conte had 11 tackles Monday night against Dallas, 8 of them unassisted. :clap2:
     
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    Conte, like many other white people, has been unfairly criticized by some whites.

    It's become part of the psyche of many white people to bash white people. It's not surprising as they've been trained to do it by the schools and media all their lives.

    Whites need to become aware of this white bashing tendency and stop doing it.

    Whites need to stop criticizing white people. White people are criticized enough by non-whites and white liberals.

    White people should resist joining in the anti-white hate.
     
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    after Gruden's effort to discredit Conte on MNF, i had a look around and it seems he already is 'much maligned', after missing a few tackles this season. last week he seemed to me to be the only one on Bears D capable of stopping AP...

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...1_1_chris-conte-khaseem-greene-calvin-johnson

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    Maligned free safety Chris Conte made plays to keep the Bears in it despite whiffing on a 39-yard run by Reggie Bush at the start of the third quarter.

    But a week after missing a chance to bring down the Packers' Eddie Lacy in the open field on a 56-yard run, the elusive Bush left Conte searching for his jock. The thing is, he is athletic enough to consistently make plays in space.

    "When it comes to the tackling, obviously I haven't been the most confident because the tackles I used to make and be very good at, they just haven't been happening," he said. "I don't know if it is a mental thing or what. But it is something I have to figure out and I am going to do everything I can."

    General manager Phil Emery will want to make Conte part of a defensive rebuild, not a piece of offseason change. There's enough overhaul needed already. But Conte has been uncharacteristically off. He has been working on the fundamentals with his footwork in practice, specifically not crossing his feet. Bush makes everyone miss, but Conte needs to make that play.
    He's also tuned out distractions, canceling his Twitter account this past week after becoming a lightning rod for criticism.
    "Not that it was affecting me, but I just didn't want to have to look at it," Conte said. "It was getting kind of ridiculous. So, it is just something I didn't want to have to deal with. There is no reason. It's just something I didn't need. I don't have to worry about it. It eliminates that and really I think it makes life a lot easier not having Twitter."
    Conte can solve problems for himself and the defense if he can continue to make key plays on the back end and start tackling better. Otherwise, Emery's to-do list will grow.
     
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    Lol yes conte is the sole reason the bears defense hasn't been up to par lately. Unreal
     
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    Anyone with any kind of observation skills can tell it is the interior d-line and linebackers that cannot tackle letting running backs get to the next level. It is the lack of any quality dlinemen and linebackers that make the Bears defense so susceptible to the run.
     
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    well if dwfs had any clue about football they would know that run support isn't the primary job of a free safety, espescially in the passing era of the NFL, sure they load the box from time to time, but yeah, its the dline that is supposed to occupy blockers and get penetration freeing up linebackers to prevent backs to get to the 2nd level, or shed blockers once they see the back has gotten past the line and try to make the tackle.

    If you are going to load more in the box its going to be the strong safety, even now the strong safety has more coverage responsibilities, except they usually suck at it, struggling on short and intermediate routes against average backs and tight ends, which is why dwfs need to realize that more Whites need to be playing the position.

    This doesn't stop White safeties regardless of whether they play free safety or strong safety from racking up tackles, since they are the last line of defense. Sometimes they miss, but that means the rest of the defense didn't do their job, and if they are the last line of defense as often as someone as Conte is then missing one or two tackles isn't bad at all.

    The play that both Leonhard and Eric Smith got blamed on Tebow, of course they were expecting run being in the redzone with the amount runs Broncos were calling and sucked to the line of scrimmage, nobody else did their job, Smith was the only guy that was in position and did his job and was caught out of position thinking others would have done better, trying to make up for it becoming the scapegoat, I believe Leonhard was lined up on the other side and they ran to the side Smith was on, also becoming the scapegoat.
     
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    Unfortunately it's common place for the nutless unathletic dwf's to make White DB's the lightning rod of many criticisms...blaming them for anything that goes wrong with the defense & labeling them slow in the process. It's gotten old fast!

    This is quite the phenomenon! I will be rooting for Conte & Steltz more than ever!
     
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    Ive noticed over the years so many times when a white DB is in the game the camera will always zoom in on him after the opposing team scores, or gets a big play. Even if the White guy had nothing to do with the success of the offense on that particular play. My dad pointed this out to me back in the 90s. I remember him saying "why the heck do they put the camera on Sehorn? He had his man covered. It was the other corner that got burnt."

    For all the glory John Lynch earned they use to do it to him too. Ronde Barber would get smoked, but the camera would zoom in on Lynch trotting off to the sideline. The Cowboys lately suck beyond measure on D, but Ive noticed that the camera seems to find Heath after they give up a big play. Even if he was on the other side of the field away from the play.

    I think I saw this phenomenon most with Jim Leonard though. In his years with the Jets Jim was basically a VERY solid player. Lots of tackles, and mostly in good position in coverage. Jim NEVER blew an assignment, which is in my opinion the main thing to being a good safety. Still, when the Jets would give up a good play that camera would find #36, and the commentators would make a comment about how the Jets need some help in the secondary.

    Basically Ive seen this so much over the years that I can predict it. Ive surprised my wife, and kids before several times by saying "now watch how they are gonna put the camera on Steltz/Doughty/Leonard/Conte/Piscitelli/Ries/Giordano. It never fails.

    I believe that this is OBVIOUSLY a deliberate move by the propaganda mill known as the NFL. The camera people, and commentators MUST have instructions to do this. IF there is a White player on D you are to fix the camera on him after big plays. This is effective, powerful propaganda. This kind of thing is why DWFs exist.
     
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    I've also noticed it for a long time, and it's been written about on the board many times over the years. There are lots of corporate network cameramen at every NFL game, and many of them do nothing but isolate on a single player (some focus on the sidelines for various reaction shots), which are then used for various replays, as the producer in the truck decides which shot is shown to the TV audience. And the producers/directors are all very well-versed on what they're supposed to do, one of the staples being cut to Whitey on defense whenever possible after a big play by the opposing offense.

    Each broadcast also has pre-scripted talking points. The announcers are constantly getting instructions and prompts from the truck. Someone whispered in Gruden's ear during the Bears-Cowboys game a couple of weeks ago that it was time to mention Conte, and Chuckie of course did, while simultaneously a negative graphic on the Bears defense was shown on the left side of the screen, while on the right side the camera lingered on Conte. Not subtle at all, but the DWFs are too well programmed to comprehend basic propaganda techniques.
     
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