Chad Hall

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  1. Borussia

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    Can we get a summary and realistic outlook on RB Chad Hall?
    Anyone know the scope on this kid? He seems very talented and fast. Will Philly give him a shot outside of ST?
     
  2. white lightning

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    Philadelphia has him listed as a wide receiver. To expect him to play either is asking alot. They will say what they always say. His too small/short and he is white. A black guy at 5'8 is fine but not a white guy no matter how fast or talented he is. Hopefully they give him some chance to make the team and then you just have to hope for multiple injuries for him to see the field. Another Danny Woodhead type who would be so fun to watch if they would only play the kid. Chad Hall can flat out fly!
     
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    Its great to see Superman back out there! I hope he can stick with the team and get some playing time. Chad Hall is one of the most exciting players to come out of college in the last 5 years and he would develop a huge following if allowed a fair chance in the NFL. Of course, getting that is far from easy when you are talking about the Caste System Negrophile Football League.
     
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    Chad Hall made a huge reception which was dubbed "the play of the game."Â￾ Charlie Caserlie, one of the Founding Father Pigs of the NFL Caste System, said that "I think Chad Hall makes this team."Â￾

    I don't believe that"¦Andy Reid is notorious for cutting white WRs who look good in pre-season (Gasperson, Samp, Bloom, Amendola, etc).Edited by: Thrashen
     
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    At
    an NFL training camp, while the players soak in whirlpools and wrap
    their bodies in ice packs, the coaches meet. They sit in conference
    rooms with the doors closed and the shades drawn and they study the
    depth chart.

    On most teams, about two-thirds of the final roster
    is set. There isn't much to discuss with, say, DeSean Jackson and Trent
    Cole. The top draft picks are locked in place as well. But when coaches
    get down to the free agents and long-shot rookies, they spend a lot of
    time comparing this guy to that guy and projecting how they fit into
    the team.

    After a few weeks, the coaches reach a point where
    they start looking for reasons to cut certain players, and they start
    looking for reasons to keep others.

    You can see it in the way
    they coach them. If they spend extra time working with a player on the
    practice field, if they pull him aside for individual instruction, they
    are telling you they feel he's worth the effort. On the flip side, if
    the coaches never call a player's name, if it's like he's not there,
    he's already gone. They're just keeping him around to eat up reps
    during two-a-days.

    Right now, the Eagles' coaches are looking
    for reasons to keep Chad Hall. That's not to say he is a lock to make
    the final roster. He still has a lot to overcome, including his size
    (5-foot-8) and the fact that the Eagles have a surplus of receivers
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    But Hall has crossed that all-important point where the coaches now
    want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    He had an impressive
    debut in the preseason opener against Jacksonville. Coach Andy Reid
    singled him out for praise. Of course, this all could go out the window
    if he muffs a punt or drops a pass in the end zone this Friday in
    Cincinnati
    , but for now the former Air Force lieutenant has the coaches
    stroking their chins and wondering: "What can we do with this guy?"Â￾

    His
    story has unfolded in stages. It began with the Eagles signing him
    after he worked out for the NFL scouts in March. At minicamp, he was a
    nice story, an undersized guy fresh off a two-year hitch supervising
    maintenance of an F-16 fighter squadron, now getting his shot to
    fulfill his dream of playing pro football.


    With his size and his
    back story, it was hard to envision Hall actually making it through
    training camp and onto the 53-man roster. It just seemed so unlikely,
    considering he was away from the game for two years and when he walked
    on the field he was smaller than many of the ball boys.

    But day
    after day, Hall kept catching the ball. He didn't drop a pass. He
    fielded every punt. Each day, the quarterbacks went to him a little
    more. OK, it was just spring ball, shorts and no pads, but still, he
    was always open. The coaches couldn't help but notice.

    When
    the team went to Lehigh, he continued to make plays. The coaches
    started moving him around, splitting him wide sometimes, lining him up
    in the slot sometimes. The real "What-do-we-have-here?"Â￾ moment was when
    they put Hall in the backfield as a tailback. That was a sure sign he
    was in the "we have to take him seriously"Â￾ club.

    "He's a
    pretty sharp guy, and he's done a heck of a job learning [the
    offense],"Â￾ Mornhinweg said at the time. "He's playing pretty much all
    positions. You saw we had him at the halfback spot some. We'll continue
    to do that. He's really catching the ball well and he's very quick. It
    looks like he'll be a consistent player."Â￾ (Hey dumbasses, this is the frickin reason why you keep him!!)

    Reid, Mornhinweg and
    April gave him a chance to play all of those roles Friday against
    Jacksonville. Reid had announced prior to the game that Jackson would
    not return punts, and Hall inherited that duty. However, when Quintin
    Demps hurt his knee, Hall became the kickoff return man as well. He
    handled four chances flawlessly.

    In the second half, Hall played
    wide receiver and caught two passes for 60 yards, the big one a
    57-yarder from quarterback Mike Kafka. He also lined up as a tailback
    and broke a 22-yard run around the end. He looked like he belonged,
    which is the best thing you can say about a first-year pro in his first
    preseason game.

    "We were going to give him the opportunity to
    play all the positions,"Â￾ Reid said. "I thought he excelled at all of
    them. He was a secure catcher on punts and made good decisions. He had
    a couple of nice catches and he had a nice run. He had a good night."Â￾

    Hall
    has a solid football pedigree. He was a star running back at the Air
    Force Academy, where he averaged more than 200 yards a game in
    all-purpose yardage. He was the Mountain West Conference offensive
    player of the year in 2007 and ranked among the top 20 rushers in all
    of college football.

    No NFL team was willing to draft him
    because of his size and his military commitment
    , but he never gave up
    hope. He was willing to come in via the free agent door and take his
    chances. If the Eagles' coaches decide Jackson is too valuable to risk
    as a full-time punt returner (which is possible), they will have to
    find someone else.

    At the moment, Chad Hall is that guy.
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  6. whiteathlete33

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    Fat Bastard always teases us. He doesn't like to keep any white receivers on his roster. He had no choice with Curtis because of his contract.
     
  7. snow

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    They mention size quite a bit in that article.I wonder ifBrian Westbrook had trouble making the roster because he was 5'8........
     
  8. FootballDad

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    Chad Hall has been getting a ton of media coverage, which is unusual for one of those "overachieving little white guys". Here is an article that just popped up:



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    All the things Chad Hall is engaged in this summer at Philadelphia Eagles training camp he already experienced over the last two years - and quite far from the football field.


    Hall, one of the biggest surprises of camp, finished his college career at Air Force in 2007 and spent the last two years as a maintenance officer and second in command with the 421st fighter squadron, part of the 388th Fighter Wing at Hill Air Force Base near Ogden, Utah.
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    Unable to play for two years, Hall served his military commitment repairing and maintaining the Air Force's largest fleet of combat-ready F-16 Fighting Falcon jets.


    "It really is a lot like football,"Â￾ Hall said. "Be accountable, make sure you prepare, trust that others are doing their jobs. There are a lot of similarities. You don't care who gets the credit, you just work together for a common goal."Â￾


    Hall was the 2007 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year after rushing for 1,478 yards and catching 50 passes for 524 more yards. But he had to serve a minimum 24-month commitment just to apply for early release from the Air Force.


    He loved the work, saying he "always wanted to be around jets,"Â￾ but desperately missed football.


    "It was tough,"Â￾ Hall said. "Real tough not playing football for two years. It was especially hard watching the game and knowing I wasn't able to play. We had squadron sports, and I played squadron basketball and stuff like that, but obviously it's not the same. I just kept working hard, kept pushing and hoping that one day I'd have a chance to prove myself."Â￾


    Hall got that chance this spring when he was invited to work out for the Eagles, and they liked what they saw from the speedy 5-foot-8 hybrid tailback/receiver/returner.


    Hall made the most of his first football game in 32 months in the Eagles' 28-27 preseason win over Jacksonville on Friday night.


    He compiled 82 yards of offense after halftime, including a 57-yard catch from rookie quarterback Mike Kafka(notes) and a 22-yard run from scrimmage to go with two punt returns for 14 yards and three kick returns for 63 yards.


    "I thought when given the opportunity, he could play all of the positions: running back, receiver and the return game,"Â￾ head coach Andy Reid said. "I thought he excelled in all of them. "¦ He had a productive day."Â￾


    Hall knows he'll need many more productive days to survive final roster cuts later this month. As a 24-year-old undrafted rookie who's shorter than most of the Eagles' ball boys and plays two positions where the team is well stocked, Hall knows he faces long odds.


    "I've always felt like I've had to outwork everybody to accomplish what I've accomplished so far,"Â￾ Hall said. "I'll always have that edge mentally, that I have to keep pushing, I can't take breaks.


    "Height and size are God-given. You can't control those. But you can control how hard you work. Just go with what you've got, and dream big."Â￾
     
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    "Hall knows he'll need many more productive days to survive final roster cuts later this month. As a 24-year-old undrafted rookie who's shorter than most of the Eagles' ball boys and plays two positions where the team is well stocked, Hall knows he faces long odds."

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  10. Don Wassall

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    IfHall hadn't gone to Air Force there's a one hundred percent chance he wouldn't make the team, probably wouldn't even have been signed as a free agent. As it is, given Fat Bastard's history, he'll likely be among the final cuts or put on the practice squad.
     
  11. sport historian

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    Yes, Hall's Air Force background might help him make the team. It would be what used to be called a "human interest story."

    Remember Vince Papale? Chad Hall has better credentials.
     
  12. Thrashen

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    Some good news for Eagles WR / RB / KR / PR, Chad Hall"¦.

    "The wide receiver battle is difficult to figure out. Here's what we know: The top four spots are accounted for. Riley Cooper has established himself as the No. 4 guy, with Hank Baskett, Chad Hall and Kelley Washington fighting it out for one or two spots. The coaches are trying Hall out in every possible role, as we saw in the preseason game Friday night. What Hall has going for him is his versatility. He brings something different to the table than the rest of the receivers. I asked Marty Mornhinweg to compare Washington and Baskett, and he said they're in the same mold. In other words, I would be surprised if both those guys made the team. But with the added emphasis on special teams this season, you never know."Â￾


    Also, another standard incidence of a black player (former Lions 1st round bust, LB Ernie Sims) "chimping out"Â￾ on a white player (star TE Brent Celek) during drills in which no hitting was even supposed to occur"¦

    "Another big hit from Ernie Sims during a "non-live" portion of practice when players are supposed to hold up. This time, he nailed Brent Celek at the goal line, and the Eagles' tight end was slow to get up. Celek returned after a short break and appears to be OK, but the Eagles' offensive players have clearly had enough of Sims' unwillingness to hold up. Jeremy Maclin, DeSean Jackson, Kevin Kolb and Max Jean-Gilles were the first to walk over to Celek to see if he was OK. After practice, I caught Andy Reid having a lengthy discussion with Sims, but it seemed pretty light-hearted as Sims was laughing at times during the talk. Reid is in a tough spot. He wants an aggressive linebacker with a mean streak, but Sims has crossed the line multiple times in practice. On the bright side, with only a couple more practices yet, at least he hasn't injured anyone."Â￾


    So a linebacker hitting his own teammate as hard as possible during a no-contact portion of practice is putting Reid in "a tough spot?"Â￾ Perhaps only in this fallacious, Afrocentric Universe would this incident be considered "tough"Â￾ for an NFL coach to handle properly.

    So Porky Pig's twin brother just "laughed it off"Â￾ with his little pet, huh? Instead of actually reprimanding a defensive player who intentionally "nailed"Â￾ an offensive player who wasn't expecting to be hit"¦Reid simply took pleasure in the senseless, imprudent aggression and violent tendencies of his black players (against one of his best white players).

    Reid and Jeff Fisher are indeed Africanized kindred spirits, cut from the same soiled Casteon cloth. These are the same type of sissy "white"Â￾ "males"Â￾ who are culpable for the decades of daily horrors directed towards whites on every level of this bigoted society.

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    The double standard continues to rear it's ugly head. How many times has this already happened to a white player this preseason? I lost count already. If this was a white player pulling this crap the consequences would be severe.
     
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    Ernie Sims will get injured as he has every season he has been in the league. Karma's a bitch...
     
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    Thursday's pre-season game between the Eagles and the Jets will be the most significant contest of Chad Hall's football career. Then again, in the scripted world of Porky Pig's Eagles (in conjunction with the ruthlessness of the Caste NFL), Hall could play a perfect game and still get axed on Saturday.

    DeSean Jackson, Jason Avant, Jeremy Maclin, and Riley Cooper are certainly locks to make the team. Therefore, Hall is essentially competing with Hank Baskett, Jordan Norwood, Kelly Washington, and Dobson Collins.

    Among these players, Hall is the only one who can also play RB. He is also the only "slot receiver"Â￾ prospect and likely the best specials teams player. Let's examine the "competition"Â￾ for an NFL roster spot"¦

    1) Reality "star"Â￾ Hank Baskett has good athleticism, but is otherwise awesomely average. He was previously released by the Eagles, and signed by the Colts (where he infamously muffed an onside kick in the Superbowl).

    2) Washington is getting old and is certainly one of the many black NFL retreads at the WR position. He's 31 and has barely accumulated over 1,000 yards over the course of his entire career.

    3) Norwood was an average talent at Penn State and is undersized for flanker. After watching him many times in the Big 10, it's hard to fathom that such a banal football player may actually be considered "worthy."Â￾ I don't believe he ever accumulated over 500 yards in a season at PSU.

    4) Collins never even had a 1,000 yard season during his time at Gardner-Webb University. His high school stats are even more embarrassing. As per Wikipedia: "In his senior year, he recorded 21 receptions for 332 yards and two touchdowns."Â￾

    With such a cornucopia of God-Men, how could Chad Hall (former Mountain West Offensive Player of the Year) possibly persevere?

    Will the pea-brained "Fat Bastard"Â￾ cut another white WR, only to see him achieve success elsewhere (Danny Amendola)? Probably.Edited by: Thrashen
     
  16. SuperSpeed23

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    Chad hall and danny woodhead. They both need a BIG game.
     
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    Chad signed by the Eagles today. Maybe he'll play tomorrow. Congrats to him, and hopefully he stays on.
     
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    Can Fat Bastard learn something from Belichick and the way he's given Danny Woodhead playing time? If by some miracle he does, then we'll really know something's in the air:

    The <A><a href="http://nflbuzz.yardbarker.com/content/team/57" target="_blank">Philadelphia Eagles</A></A> will sign rookie RB/WR <A><a href="http://nflbuzz.yardbarker.com/content/player/125720" target="_blank">Chad Hall</A></A> off their practice squad on Saturday, a source said. It's not known yet who they will release to make room for Hall on their 53-man roster. All teams playing on Sunday must turn in any roster moves that will reflect their roster for this week's games by 4:00 p.m ET on Saturday.

    Hall, who has tremendous short area quickness, should serve as Philadelphia's fourth receiver for Sunday night's game at the San Francisco 49ers. Hall also could be used as a running back.

    Hall, 24, caught the eye of Philadelphia during his Pro Day workout earlier this year. A few days later, the team flew Hall in for a workout. After the workout, they were impressed enough to sign him to a three-year deal.

    Rookie WR
    <A></A><A><a href="http://nflbuzz.yardbarker.com/content/player/126704" target="_blank">Riley Cooper</A></A> (concussion) was ruled out for the game on Friday. Philadelphia will also be without QB <A></A><A><a href="http://nflbuzz.yardbarker.com/content/player/3732" target="_blank">Michael Vick</A></A> (ribs) and starting CB <A></A><A><a href="http://nflbuzz.yardbarker.com/content/player/3319" target="_blank">Asante Samuel</A></A> (concussion).

    http://nflbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/eagles_to_sign_rookie_wr_104_pm/3382958

     
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    I'm happy for Chad, provided that he gets a real opportunity for playing time. It will truly be a feat if he sticks, just like Don says.
     
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    Thanks for the head's up...it's a copy cat league! Fat Bastard probably saw Woodhead on MNF.Chad is a game-breaker..they will have no choice but to use him...

    Riley Cooper &amp; Jordan Shipley out with concussions...not cool...hope they get healthy soon!
     
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    That's two white receivers on Fat Bastard's team at the moment. He may be losing his mind.[​IMG]
     
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    Don't be so sure, just yet,W33. If a pair of rugged Canadians like Jason Bay and Justin Morneau can be shut down for the balance of a baseball season due to a concussion, I would suspect a caste-clown like Reid might consider placing Riley Cooper on the IR for "his owngood" in a high contact sport like football. This could be howa roster spot is opened upfor Hall. Garrett Mills, who has the size, speed and skill to be starting NFL wide receiver (butwas bulked up and Caste at H-Back), could also be on the chopping block. Let's hope for the best, but with Reid I always fear the worst.

    By the way, does anyone hereremember all thehype currently injured Eagles tailback/scatback LeSean McCoy got from the ESPN draftniks (and other girly-men/draft guru's)heading into the 2009 draft? You would've thought this guy was the second coming of Gayle Sayers (production wise), with Chris Johnson'sblinding speed [​IMG]

    It was reported (still up at Wiki) that McCoy ran a 4.2/40 coming out of high school. Then when he went to his Pro Day and ran in the 4.5's. That's not real bad,but it's hardly what was expected from a guy that was considered such a"unique talent"that he left school after his sophomore year and still got drafted high after a verymediocre Pro Day**. And, no doubt, Pitt probably runs a concrete like track, making his times look even better than suspected. The fast track at Pitt might be the reason such a "strong, young athlete" suddenly came down with the flu when he had to run on a normal track, with electronic timers at the Combine [​IMG]


    As far as theWoodhead angleis concerned, I agree with the posters here that mentioned Danny'ssudden successwith the Pats probably helped Chad get this shot. I'm sure many white tailbacks over the last 30 years had similar skill-sets to McCoy and either never got drafted or where picked in the latter rounds and quickly dumped. Former Indiana star Alex Smith was a McCoy clone (same size, speed, college impact)in the mid-90's. But he was marginalized by all the draft gurus right off the bat andwent undrafted after leaving school earlybecause he got married young and need quick cash.Smith's real problem, however, was he didnot run a 4.2/40, which is probably what it would've took for a white tailback to even get a shot as a seldom used backup (i.e. Travis Jervey) back in that era. Hope guys like Danny and Chad can change things, because my guess is NFL teams and DWF'sare finally realizing there are not enough "Super Hero's" with "legit 4.2 speed" to stock all 32 teams.

    By the way, I honestly believe current Eagles' fullback Owen Schmitt and ex-Eagle Kyle Eckel could also be very effective NFL runners, if given the same chances 4.7's guys like Arian Foster, Jason Snelling and Mike Tolbert have received. But that's pure fantasy at this time and a topic for another time.


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    Those times that are attributed to these players coming out of high school are never believable. I go by the times that I see at the Combine and Pro Days times though some Pro Day times are a bit fishy as well. For instance there is supposedly some black player in college now who runs a 4.2 or something like that and if I remember correctly he's a linebacker. His time will be significantly slower come Pro Day or Combine.
     
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    Obviously, I agree with you. I used the example of LeSean McCoy -- who has done a decent job with the Eagles so far -- as an example of how reality is skewed by the media. Here's a guy that might be a little bigger than Chad Hall, but probably is not nearly as fast or quick in short areas**, yet the perception when they came out of college was that McCoy was very special (a likely 1st rounder) and Hall was just a nice kid who could help out on a practice squad and, perhaps, be a good special teams coach one day?

    By the way, a few months ago someone here (Don Wassall?) mentioned that Hall would've never even got the look he did from the Eagles if hehad not attend a Service Academy?

    I agree 100%! No doubt Eagles owner Jeff Laurie and GM/"scouting guru"Howard Roseman -- who has no real on-field football experience*** -- realize the recruiting power guys like Kyle Eckel (Navy) and Hall (Air Force)can have for the military. Figuring if these"longshots"can actually make it big in the NFL, it could help our goverment recruit more eager-eyed teens coming out of high school to go off and fight the neo-con wars we've been thrust into.


    ** http://bleacherreport.com/articles/365750-welcome-the-new-eagles-darryl-tapp-marlin-jackson-mike-bell-and-more

    *** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Roseman
     
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    "Short area quickness" another whites only euphemism to avoid complementing him on his speed. Someone add that to the CF dictionary.
     

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