Center John Amaechi is a GAY!

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  1. hedgehog

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    The small, exclusive club of openly gay professional male athletes has a new member.

    Former NBA center John Amaechi, who spent five seasons with four teams, on Wednesday became the first NBA player to publicly come out

    Amaechi will appear on ESPN's Outside the Lines on Sunday, and his autobiography "Man in the Middle," will be released Feb. 14.

    "He is coming out of the closet as a gay man," Amaechi's publicist Howard Bragman said.

    Martina Navratilova, perhaps the most famous openly gay athlete in the world, praised Amaechi's decision and said it's imperative for athletes to come out because of what she called an epidemic of suicides among young lesbians and gays.

    "It's hugely important for the kids so they don't feel alone in the world. We're role models. We're adults, and we know we're not alone but kids don't know that," she said. "He will definitely help a lot of kids growing up to feel better about themselves."

    Three years after his playing career ended, Amaechi become the sixth professional male athlete from one of the four major American sports (NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL) to publicly discuss his homosexuality.

    Former NFL running back David Kopay came out in 1977; offensive lineman Roy Simmons and defensive lineman Esera Tuaolo came out more recently. Glenn Burke, an outfielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Oakland A's in the 1970s, and Billy Bean, a utility player in the 1980s and 1990s (not the current Oakland general manager), also have come out.

    Each did so after retiring.

    Burke died of complications due to AIDS in 1995.

    "What John did is amazing," said Tuaolo, who came out in 2002. "He does not know how many lives he's saved by speaking the truth."

    Tuaolo said coming out would be a relief to Amaechi.

    "Living with all that stress and that depression, all you deal with as a closeted person, when you come out you really truly free yourself," Tuaolo said. "When I came out it felt like I was getting out of prison."

    NBA commissioner David Stern said a player's sexuality is not important.

    "We have a very diverse league. The question at the NBA is always 'have you got game?' That's it, end of inquiry," he said.

    In his book, Amaechi describes the challenge of being gay in a league where it's assumed that all players are heterosexual. He describes the blatant anti-gay language and attitudes he experienced in NBA locker rooms, and writes that while playing in Utah, coach Jerry Sloan used anti-gay innuendo to describe him.

    Sloan said Wednesday that although his relationship with Amaechi was "shaky" because of the player's attitude, he didn't know Amaechi was gay. Sloan had no comment about Amaechi's contention that Sloan used anti-gay innuendo when referring to him. Amaechi said he found out about it in e-mails from friends in the Jazz front office.

    When asked if knowing Amaechi was gay would have mattered, Sloan said: "Oh yeah, it would have probably mattered. I don't know exactly, but I always have peoples' feelings at heart. People do what they want to do. I don't have a problem with that."

    Amaechi, 36, who was raised in England, writes in the book that he never touched a basketball before the age of 17. A quick study despite being a "terrible athlete," he found his confidence in the game and made it his goal to play in the NBA.

    He competed for Penn State, then played in 301 NBA games over five seasons. The 6-foot-10 center averaged 6.2 points and 2.6 rebounds. He began his career with the Cleveland Cavaliers in 1995-96, then spent a few years playing in Europe. He rejoined the NBA to play for the Orlando Magic from 1999-01, then played two seasons for the Utah Jazz.

    The Jazz traded him to Houston, which traded him to the New York Knicks. When the Knicks waived him in January 2004, he retired.

    Amaechi came out of retirement to help England's men's basketball team to the silver medal in the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, Australia.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6450862?MSNHPHMA
     
  2. C Darwin

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    There might be a few people they left off the list?
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  3. guest301

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    He claims Utah coach Jerry Sloan got rid of him because he was gay. Hope that's true, although Jerry should deny it to avoid some type of mandatory sensativity training he may have to endure!...Wish these people would stay in the closet..to much fame, money and attention these days to keep to themselves.
     
  4. white is right

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  5. jaxvid

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    Sounds like gay bashing to me. What are you trying to do? drive the gay readers away from our site!!!!
     
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    Hey the guy's not really white, from Steve Sailers site: it's an interesting article too. Recommended reading.

    isteve.com

    Amaechi is an interesting Barack Obama-type: born in Boston but raised in Manchester, England, his father was a Nigerian who abandoned his white mother, a doctor, when he was three. Edited by: jaxvid
     
  7. Robert

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    When I heard about Amaechi's revelation, I thought to myself, "Why is it that homosexual athletes who come out are either 1) retired or 2) on the B or C List?"


    One of the things I realized is that this circle of openly gay athletes is small and cliquish, with the majority of them being obscure athletes who don't ring bells right away in a person's mind (with the exception of Martina Navratilova).


    Amaechi's new public persona and his book isn't going to change the way the everyman looks at homosexuality in sports.
     
  8. jaxvid

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    You might want to check out the Steve Sailer link above it covers the issue of why there are so few gay male athletes. Note how the media tracks the number so closely, I understand it's now 6, catch that 6, former pro athletes that have "come out of the closet". [​IMG]

    Would someone please put a lock on that closet door!

    Castefootball should take a shot at who number 7 is going to be. Kordell Stewart anyone?
     
  9. white is right

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    Rumours about Kordell are plentiful, Piazza rumours are out there, Brady Anderson rumours were out there. Jeez Strahan's wife just about said he was a flamer to the press.... [​IMG]
     
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    Jaxvid wrote " sounds like gay bashing to me, what are you trying to do? drive the gay readers away from this site?.... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] . very funny. I think this is the last site in the world that would attract a gay person. I hate that Carl Lewis picture. It has got to be the most gay picture in the world. I have to use the internet at the public library to access Caste Football and the computer is in a very public area and I have cringed several times when people have walked past me and have have seen me scrolling past that picture. I will be glad when this thread dies it's rightful death. [​IMG]
     
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    Ex-NBA player Tim Hardaway publicly says he hates gay ones!!This is kind of fun to watch. Homosexuals are are pretty much not tolerated in most of the hip-hop "community" I have noticed in the last year or so, the 4 major sports programs trying to get the athletes to accept homosexuality- through there diversity training programs.(no doubt to try and influence acceptance among teens and adolescents.) This has to irk the diversity pushers, to see blacks not accepting all the gayrods out there.



    Tim Hardaway: 'I Hate Gay People'

    (CBS4) MIAMI Former Miami Heat superstar Tim Hardaway told a local sports radio show that he "hates gay people."

    Hardaway made the comments while he was being interviewed by Dan Le Batard on 790 the Ticket Wednesday afternoon.

    The five time All Star was asked how he would deal with a gay teammate.

    "First of all I wouldn't want him on my team," said Hardaway. " "Second of all, if he was on my team I would really distance myself from him because I don't think that's right and I don't think he should be in the locker room when we're in the locker room."

    Le Batard took Hardaway to task, pointing out that his comments were "flatly homophobic" and bigoted, but that only seemed to stir up the former point guard.

    "Well, you know, I hate gay people," Hardaway said in response to Le Batard. "I let it be known I don't like gay people. I don't like to be around gay people. I'm homophobic. It shouldn't be in the world, in the United States, I don't like it."

    Hardaway's comments come on the heels of a groundbreaking revelation made by former player John Amaechi, who became the first professional basketball player to openly identify himself as gay.

    Amaechi became only the sixth male atlhlete from one of the four major American sports (NBA,MLB,NFL,NHL) to admit he is gay.

    Former NFL running back David Kopay , offensive lineman Roy Simmons and defensive lineman Esera Tuaolo just recently came out.

    Glenn Burke, an outfielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Oakland Athletics in the 1970s, and Billy Bean, a utility player in the 1980s and 1990s, have also come out.

    No player has ever publicly admitted to being gay while currently playing for one of the four major American sports.


    http://cbs4.com/local/local_story_045205258.htmlEdited by: KJV1
     
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    Hardaway has issued the standard apology (which is surprising, since blacks don't normally have to do that), but with a twist no white male could get away with. He said that his mistake was saying he hated gay people, and that he should have never said that or anything like it. So, he realizes the problem is what he said, not the fact that he obviously does hate gay people. He didn't do the white thing, and grovel before the p.c. police, and say how gays are just like everyone else and that he didn't mean what he said. Hardaway doesn't have to worry; as a black, he has total freedom of speech, and his career will not be negatively impacted by his carelessly chosen words. If he were white, his career would be over, and every time his name was mentioned, it would be in a John Rocker vein. Remember that a few years ago, New York Knick Charlie Ward, hardly a star player, made some shocking comments about jews to the media. The story barely registered in New York (of all places!), and his career was not negatively impacted at all. Blacks are the only group in America today who actually have their First Amendment rights.
     
  13. Colonel_Reb

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    I just saw his comments and apology online. It's a shame he apologized for it, but at least he did make the distinction bigunreal mentioned.


    I thought I read Anfernee somewhere. I guess I still had sleep in my eyes. Oh well.[​IMG]Edited by: Colonel_Reb
     
  14. guest301

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    There is no such thing as homophobia, it's just a natural aversion to something that is a abomination and will eventually destroy any society where it is allowed to roam free. See the fall of the Roman Empire for proof on that score.
     
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    tim hardaway isnt penny hardaway...penny is anfernee hardaway
     
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    glad to someone, even if its a black, stand up to this gay bullsh*t...
     
  17. guest301

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    We don't have free speech in this country anymore. Imagine if Dirk or Nash had said something like this.
     
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    If Charlie Ward said what John Rocker said most sane people would of nodded in agreement with him and the story would have died after a day or two.

    Dirk or Nash may have been put up on charges in their countries for saying something like that.Imagine if Dirk wore a Zundel patch on his jersey the kind uproar that would cause.

    Number 7 well lets hope there is no number 7, but for the NBA Isiah Thomas seems to be emerging as a contender.
     
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    Yup, and that person's name is world famous sprinter Carl Lewis. Take a gander at the homo-eroticness of this little gem of a video that he made in the 1980's. Wait 'til you guys see this one...


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  21. hedgehog

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    What kind of ****gy outfit is he wearing? If I saw a guy like that at the gym, I would make sure he used the lady's locker room. What is the point of that old white lady jumping in the sauna with him and locking the door? Oh thats right, the emasculation process has to be gradual, start with old white lady's and then..... Edited by: KJV1
     
  22. white is right

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    Daley Thompson had a t-shirt in Los Angeles that said he was the world greatest straight athlete. You figure out the rest.... [​IMG]
     

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