Carson Palmer

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  1. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

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    It looks like he's now a Raider. I'm happy as I will now have a legit quarterback on my FF roster.

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    Raiders acquired QB Carson Palmer from the Bengals in exchange for a first-round pick in 2012 and a conditional first-round pick in 2013.

    For once, owner Mike Brown's stubbornness paid off. The Bengals land a king's ransom for a player that was essentially no longer part of their organization. Palmer is now reunited with Hue Jackson, who was an assistant in Cincy from 2004-06. Although Palmer's arm strength and mobility appeared to be declining badly in his final days with the Bengals, he'll be an immediate and significant upgrade on Kyle Boller. It also means that Jason Campbell, set to become a free agent after this season, is likely gone. Palmer's name is worth more than his game, but he is on the QB2 radar and will keep afloat the current value of Darrius Heyward-Bey and Denarius Moore. The Raiders play the Chiefs this week before a Week 8 bye.
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    I've always liked Carson Palmer. He looked like a sure-fire future Hall of Famer early in his career but a devastating knee injury against the Steelers in the 2005 playoffs after he had been instrumental in turning the Bengals around set him back, as did a lingering wrist injury after that.

    Hopefully he'll still be good enough after working off the rust to "Wally Pipp" Jason Campbell. The fact that Palmer wanted out of Cincy so badly proves that he was not remotely close to being the "wigger" a few here so bizarrely portrayed him as. He's about as white bread as they come.

    I'm glad too that he wasn't forced to stay retired because of the pettiness of Mike Brown, who never met a black thug he didn't love and give numerous chances to, but suddenly became a "principled" hardliner when it came to Carson Palmer.
     
  3. backrow

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    he's only 31 as well, hopefully his body healed up over his time off and is ready for some football!
     
  4. jaxvid

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    No white guys to throw under the bus in Oakland either! :tongue:
     
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    Trading potentially two first round draft picks for an over-thirty QB who finished last season with a 10-game losing streak, is somewhat of a malcontent, has only been to the playoffs twice (2005 and 2009) in his career, and has never won a single playoff game is absurd, even for Oakland. On the other hand, they would have promptly wasted those high draft picks on Afro-Busts.

    Of course, despite my personal feelings towards the self-proclaimed “80 Million Dollar Man,â€￾ I’d like to see him resurrect his career. Also, he’ll be taking yet another starting QB position away from a Quota-Back.
     
  6. foobar75

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    He'll certainly find himself in a very familiar environment. A black coach, surrounded by almost exclusively an all-afflete offensive cast, and therefore no reason to lobby for more affletes to join the team at the expense of any whites. It's not too different than his CIN days. The only net benefit I see here is that it displaces another quotaback as Thrashen mentions.
     
  7. Deadlift

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    Make no mistake, Palmer is on another "Media's Team." Anyone can go to CBS Sportsline, where it appears the articles are totally "pro-Oakland"..

    Why is this? Because they are COAL-BLACK -- with McFadden, Bush, McClain, Curry, Seymour, Kelly, DHB, Ford, and Pryor AND, here's a big one, Hue Jackson! Considering that Palmer was weak for the last few years, why would the media be suddenly "pumped up" about him? It's because they are hoping that he can "will" the Oakland Coal Blacks to a special season.

    It's not uncommon for the MSM to support a White QBed team, in college or the NFL, as long as the rest of the team is coal black. Whether Oakland was led by Boller or Palmer, it was clear that the media wouldn't abandon Oakland. The Al Davis passing has to fit in here somewhere, but, even if that didn't occur, their "bandwagon for Oakland" would have remained similar to what it is now. It's fine that Scampbell got a booboo, but there's absolutely nothing to like about Oakland.

    --I have my doubts that Palmer, who was pretty much sitting at home, is an upgrade over Boller at this point in the season.--
     
  8. Don Wassall

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    With Palmer, Oakland has five Whites starting on offense (TE Kevin Boss and three on the line in addition to Carson), but with an all-black defense and only 12 White players on the roster they're just about at the top of the Caste totem pole with Tampa, Pittsburgh and Arizona.

    Trevor Scott sees a fair amount of snaps at defensive end, and Matt Giordano has seen a lot of action at FS, even starting a couple of games with first round bust Michael Huff battling injuries. Oakland is the first team to give Giordano substantial playing time after being kicked around the league for years.
     
  9. The Hock

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    Palmer has never been the same after that injury he had in the playoffs. He seemed gun-shy after that. He's supposed to have the arm for the downfield game Oakland favors, but can he stay cool in the pocket long enough for the receivers to get open is the question, and then not short-arm it and have the ball sail on a lot of throws.

    That said, I hope he finds his old form and lights it up. I like comeback stories.
     
  10. whiteathlete33

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    The situation for Carson could be a little scary. His supporting cast on offense is terrible. He'll be throwing to Heyward-Bey whose easily the worst starting receiver in football though he's improved this year.
     
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    He took some nasty hits yesterday. I certainly feel bad for this man, from one dire situation to a new one. As much as I hope it works out for him(I personally have zero problems with Palmer, he isn't an NFL GM and cannot decide who his teammates will be) I don't think it will end pretty. Somehow I think that was the plan to begin with.
     
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    Keep in mind John Clayton likes to pass his speculation off as indisputable fact. Palmer MAY have lobbied for T.J. however Radio Jackson was T.J(and Chad)'s WR coach on the Bengals and has referred to them as his "sons" for years now.

    He's also been grabbing up ex Bengal coaches and players since last season season so it is possible and more likely Jackson is aiming for a late 00's Bengal reunion in Oakland.
     

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