Booing of Kenny Rogers at All-Star game

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Am I the only one who was bothered by this? The man was picked to
represent his team at the all-star game and is doing so, despite the
calls of all these idiots saying he should not go. Imagine if Dontrelle
Willis or Bobby Abreu was booed during the lineup introduction, every
announcer in the world would be screaming racism and how we didn't
understand the plight of the struggling black man. What a joke!
 

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White people are oppressors we don't get the privilege of being discriminated against. You're suppose to sit and take blame for what your ancestors did. Though your not suppose to proud of your ethnicity because there is no such thing as race. END OF SARCASMEdited by: Bear-Arms
 

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It's ridiculous that Roger Clemens didn't start for the National League. An argument can be made that he is the best pitcher of all time. Certainly he is one of the best half dozen ever. Instead of the theme of the All Star game being celebrating how many non-Americans are in baseball, it should have been centered around celebrating Clemens' great career.
 

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Tony LaRusa was gonna pick his guy no matter what. Most of the managers are one sided when comes to their own players.
 

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LaRussa has been around forever. I remember him managing the White Sox
in like 1985 when I was a kid. He is this generations Casey Stengle.
 

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It's hard to feel sorry for self-centered jerks like Rogers, but I
don't think you'd ever see any black player booed like that. At least
not by a majority white crowd.
 

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After two innings, I've learned the following:


- Jeff Kent is the all-time leader in homeruns for second basemen, but is "unheralded" by the media


- There have always been and still arequestions about David Eckstein's range and arm


- Mike Piazza will be done as a fielder after this year and will be strictly a DH next year


- Brian Roberts is probably the first player to lead his league in batting to bat last in the order


- Mark Texiera has hit more homeruns than any player in either league since last July 1, but is also "unheralded" by the media
 

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Is Texeira white? I thought he was just a very light skin latino.
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No after you here the pronunciation of his name, he is a very white guy.
 

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Ancestry.com says the name means: Portuguese and Galician: habitational name from any of the places in Portugal and Galicia named Teixeira (written Teijeira in Castilian Spanish), from a derivative of Portuguese and Galician teixo 'yew tree' (Latin taxus).
 

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So-called Latinos can be white. Ifsomeone's from Latin America but theirdescendants are European then so are they.Teixeira was born in Annapolis, Maryland so hecould be of Spanish or Italian or Portugese or some other Euro descent. I'm not sure of his ancestry, but as J. B. Cash wrote about him in his column about the All Star game, "he's as white as my Dutch uncle"!Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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Is it just me or did they have all the white guys batting lower in the order?
 

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Joe Buck keeps repeating "what a great host Detroit has been." I doubt Buck and any of the announcers and other "journalists" ventured very far from their hotel bunkersduring their stay when notin limos and cabs. A local writer who is covering the game was interviewed on one of our sports talk radio stations, and told how five "youths" started to steal his car within seconds after he got out of it in front of his hotel and then threatened him when he asked what they were doing. Detroit is a "great host" in the same sense Baghdad would be a "great host" for an All Star game.
 

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Fox decided that the appropriate time to do a dugout interview of Tony LaRussa was during Roger Clemens' one inning of work.
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But you knew thereweren'tgoing to be any distractions when Dontrelle Willis took the mound. Both Buck and McCarver oohed and aahed about Willis' athletic ability, his great personality, and his "electric presence," as McCarver put it. It made me nostalgic for that day when Deion Sanders dumped a bucket of ice water on McCarver's head.
 

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Garland is a great athlete he played various sports just like Dontrelle. Big deal. Oh, wait don't forget Ivan Rodriguez is the best defensive catcher in the history of the game.
 

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Both commentators oohed and ahhed, even commenting on how Dontrell Williamswears his hat to the side. Who gives a f**k? They also said the way he acts in interviews is the way he acts all the time, basically congratualing him for being an ******* badass all the time instead of just in front of the camera. While this was going on Texieria blasts a f**kin home off em and they barely awknoledge it. Its like some super non-racist mentailty to like the black/hispanic players or something. It makes the announcers no doubt feel good about themselves and their imagined guilt. f**k the media!!!
 

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Texiera is Portuguese I think. Roger Clemens
definitely should have started no if's and's or but's. Texiera is
Barry Bonds not on steroids. His versatility is a valuable asset
in addition to his power. It was nice to see him homer from the
right, because he was criticized so much for his lack of power from the
right. People seem to be very nostalgic about the overrated
Reggie Jackson.

Ivan Rodriguez has been hailed the greatest
catcher of all time and I think he is. However, there was not a
lot of attention on Piazza's final years. Piazza should have more
credit and hopefully will be in the Hall of Fame.
 

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Ivan Rodriguez still can't call a game. I don't care what anyone says about him.
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I'm no big baseball freak, but I've never heard of Rodriguez, at least not that one, maybe 100 or so of his cousins though.
 

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bigunreal said:
It's hard to feel sorry for self-centered jerks like Rogers, but I don't think you'd ever see any black player booed like that. At least not by a majority white crowd.


I don't condone what Rogers did but after viewing the video, it didn't seem as bad as I thought from the reports. I assumed he put a whuppin on the cameraman. Rogers also apologized and groveled before the whole world but that didn't seem to help him. And, there is no way Negroes get the same treatment. With all the off-season crap the black football players pulled, the adoring white fans will just about KiSS their behinds before the first game is played.
 

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Seems like every time I tune in a game, somebody or other is the greatest player ever. Does anyone remember Johnny Bench?He was astounding the baseball experts even as a teen.There were not enough adjectives to describe his play behind the plate. He put up some very impressive power numbers in the days of the Big Red Machine. Yogi was quite good as were several other old-timers whose names have faded into oblivion.
 

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Bench was the best catcher ever. He would have been a Hall of Famer based on his defense alone, but he was also a tremendous power hitter. I went to his last game in Three Rivers Stadium in '83 after he announced he would be retiring. The crowd gave him a huge sendoff after the game -- gifts, prolonged ovation. He took a tour around the field in a car, waving to everyone.That was ahighly unusual tributeto a player on an opposing team anda welldeserved one.


There have been other greatcatchers -- Yogi Berra, Mickey Cochran, Bill Dickey, Carlton Fisk, Mike Piazza, and others I'm sure I neglected to think of.


The All-Star game had record low ratings for the second year in a row. It wasn't much of a game. The crowd was also very subdued. They barely even worked up any enthusiasm for Rodriguez, the Tigers' lone representative.


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P.S. Fun fact about Bench -- he could hold eight baseballs in his hand at one time!Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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IceSpeed2 said:
Ivan Rodriguez has been hailed the greatest catcher of all time and I think he is.

Dude, seriously. He's not even the best catcher of his era (Piazza is).
 

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Last week some Caste System shill at ESPN.com put together his "greatest baseball players of all-time" list. It wasn't half-bad actually, but at catcher his selection was Negro League player Josh Gibson!
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J. B. Cash nailedthe reality of the Negro Leaguesin his column "Whitewashing Sports History":


The real truth of the Negro Leagues is so embarrassing that it is amazing that revisionists even bring it up. It is only through the fear that modern pro-black forces exert that the history of the Negro Leagues can even be taken seriously. Josh Gibson: 800 homers. Sure. Why not 1,000? Who will ever know? Most of the games he played in were basically exhibitions against the local team. No one kept any serious statistics. Teams came and went. Players changed teams during the game. It was a joke by any standard of the word "league". Baseball vaudeville would be more accurate. But who in the media can risk speaking the truth without the racial police destroying his career?

So we have to endure the tales of the Negro Leagues like they were a black version of the National League and not what they really were, a black version of a softball beer league. Compare this to the stats for the pre-1900 professional baseball leagues. There is a box score for every one of those games. Complete stats can be found on players from the National Association from over 120 years ago! I can tell you to the number how many homeruns Jim O'Rourke hit in 1880 (6). We have no idea how many homeruns Josh Gibson hit in 1941. Of course to criticize blacks for sloppy record keeping is getting too close to other sensitive issues about African Americans so that discussion is off the table also and instead we have to treat the propaganda as truth instead of the pure fabrication it really is.
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Scott Podsednik didn't get to bat
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I'll never watch another All-Star game I don't think. Unless Scott Podsednik is a starter.
 
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