Bobby Carpenter

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  1. bigunreal

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    Just read where the Cowboys' #1 draft pick this season, LB Bobby Carpenter, is going to be active for this week's game (to play on special teams and nickel defenses). I guess that is some kind of a victory for a white player. The story had some quotes from Carpenter, who is clearly trying to control his understandable frustration. Coach Parcells' only apparent response to this was that Carpenter was still trying to "figure out what's going on." Yeah, he should have figured out what is going on; a club that drafted a player in the first round is discriminating against him, and treating him like it would treat no non-white #1 draft pick, simply because of the color of his skin. Carpenter has been a healthy scratch for 2 of the first 3 games this season. When was the last time a black #1 draft pick was inactive for 2 of the first 3 games of the season? I just wish one of these white guys would just come out and accuse his team of racism. He'd be crucified in the media, but if a few others spoke out afterwards in support (it's always hardest to find someone to speak out first), then even the jock sniffers would have to address the issue.
     
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    Parcell's is totally infatuated with all negroes what is happening to Carpenter should'nt suprise anyone look how much of the B. S. he put up from the dumbest nigroe of them all.
     
  3. whiteCB

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    I think Bobby held out for some of training camp which probably hurt him as far as learning the defense and all that crap. Also it probably hurt him in the eyes of Parcells as Bill always holds his white players to higher standards then the blacks ones. Bobby will play more and more as the year goes on and will be starting by next season. A lot of rookies don't start their first year but do so by their second one. Carpenter is a speical talent that will be playing, don't worry.
     
  4. lumsdenpower

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    Who is better?Ware or Carpenter?
     
  5. whiteCB

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    That is irrelevant becuase Ware is a weak side OLB and Carpenter is a strong side OLB. So they aren't even competing for the same position.
     
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    yeah i know but if you has to choose one guy?ware or carpenter?
     
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    Look at McCoy who faced a similar situation with the Eagles last season and is now a good player and their lone white starter on D.. I expect Bobby to start next season.
     
  8. backrow

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    they are totally distinct as players... Ware is a pass rushing LB-DE hybrid with good size, but Carpenter should be a great linebacker in every aspect of the game, if his career in Ohio State was any indication. can't really compare those two players.
     
  9. whiteCB

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    Yeah and look at even Sean Consodine who is starting some with the Eagles now after not playing last year.
     
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    Considine might be the best tackling defensive back in the NFL... he actually WRAPS not just fall over at their feet..
     
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    Aparently they are trying to move Bobby to ILB but hes having trouble adjusting
     
  12. Deacon

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    From San Antonio Express-News...

    First-round draft pick Bobby Carpenter has been inactive in two of the Cowboys' first three games, but coach Bill Parcells said the former Ohio State linebacker will dress today and play on special teams and nickel defense.

    "I know you're just waiting to say (he's a bust)," Parcells said. "But it's a little too early. I don't think you can really make a real assessment or judgment about players until they've been a couple of years in the league."

    The Cowboys moved Carpenter from outside to inside linebacker in training camp.

    "I came here to play," Carpenter said. "But we've got a lot of linebackers here, so I don't feel entitled to play."

    Still, Carpenter said he wished he had a more defined role.

    "That's something that's kind of bothered me a little bit," Carpenter said. "I don't care what my role is. I'd like it to be clearly defined."

    Asked for his assessment of Carpenter, Parcells said, "I see a young player that needs to get a foothold on what's going on."
     
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    You'd think Carpenter's dad having played under Parcells would tell Bobby what to expect from this asshole and how to get on his good side.
     
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    By MAC ENGEL
    Star-Telegram staff writerPosted: May 3rd, 2008
    IRVING -- When the Miami Dolphins made a trade with the Dallas Cowboys for tight end Anthony Fasano before the draft, they also wanted a linebacker, and it wasn't Akin Ayodele.

    According to an NFL source, the Dolphins wanted Bobby Carpenter, but the Cowboys weren't willing to part with the 2006 first-round draft pick. So Dallas included Ayodele in the deal.

    Either way, Carpenter said Friday he is happy to be staying with the Cowboys, but that he wants to play.

    "This is still a great opportunity for me, and [inside linebacker] is a place where I think I can use my athletic ability to make plays," Carpenter said. "If I'm going to have a shot to play, I want it to be here."

    He's currently backing up veteran Zach Thomas. Carpenter said he's been studying game film with Thomas and already has picked up quite a bit in the short time the veteran free-agent acquisition has been with the Cowboys.
     
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    Yea I knew Parcells would go after Carpenter. I really wish they traded him as he is just wasting away in dallas.
     
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    From Fanball:

    Though he has been a disappointment as a former first-round draft pick, Cowboys linebacker Bobby Carpenter probably will not be cut due to his play in nickel and dime packages, along with his special teams contributions, according to the Dallas Morning News.

    Our View: Carpenter had just 18 tackles last season, and he has been described often as too soft to play the game, something that came to the forefront on the recent episode of HBO's Hard Knocks, as a teammate labeled him "Barbie" Carpenter.

    Well, I guess this passes for good news for us from the Caste System. This "soft" label is now being used constantly on the few white NFL players left. I'm glad I don't watch "Hard Knocks." Something tells me the teammate who labeled him "Barbie" wasn't Todd Heap or Kyle Boller.
     
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    The guys I work with were talking about Carpenter today. "He's a bust... he's soft... doesn't like to hit people..."

    Apparently they've all been watching Hard Knocks.

    I haven't watched a down of pre-season football, but I recall last year the CF consensus was that Carpenter wasn't seeing the field enough to have an impact. Anybody watch Dallas pre-season this year who can tell me the truth about Bobby Carpenter?
     
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    What little I saw of Dallas this preseason, he wasn't on the field.
     
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    Carpenter hasn't had a chance to play much at all other than as a special teams demon. It's difficult if not impossible to think of a black LB drafted in the first round who wasn't just thrown in the fray even if he appeared slow to pick things up. A good example is Lawrence Timmons, drafted in the first round by the Steelers last year. The guy didn't have a clue. He also was slow and dumb and not very productive in college but he went to FSU so he became a first rounder. He ended up injured and last year was a washout but this year the Steelers are force-feeding Timmons, and he's playing a lot and will probably be a starter before the end of the regular season. And if he turns out down the road not to be starting caliber it won't be because he wasn't given ample opportunity.


    With newly arrived Zach Thomas the Cowboys are already one over their usual allotment of white defensive starters. Carpenter needs to be waived or traded and start fresh with another organization.Edited by: Don Wassall
     
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    Don, just finishing watching the Hard knocks Dallas show on HBO. This episode he was the star, and the alledged Trader White GM and Coaches stated that he will play alot this season and Zach Thomas stated that Carpenter's reputation as soft is all Bull Shat(Don can I write that word?)

    Anyways in the pre season game with the Texans he starred in his performance. I think he will play alot and even start. I like to be positive instead of doom and gloom. Go Robbie!

    W.S. the Dallas alledged Traders were all over his jock strap! Next week more cuts, I don't anticapate him being cut or banished to the other glorious league called the scout team. F that.
     
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    What is an 'alledgded Trader?'
     
  22. Don Wassall

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    When every pronouncement from the coaching staff has Carpenter as a backup at ILB, as do all the depth charts, it's not "doom and gloom" to refer to him as a backup, merely accurate to describe his career thus far and his planned role for this season.


    BTW Kukulcan, that word you like to use in many of your posts is "traitor," not "trader," though it's true that GMs and coaches often are active "traders."
     
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    I remember how good Carpenter was at Ohio State. When he was picked by Dallas, I knew he was done. Dallas doesn't like white defenders. I would like to see Bobby traded to a team where he will actually play.
     
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    Bobby Carpenter got a little more playing time yesterday and made a nice tackle chasing down Steven Jackson to the outside for about a yard loss. Hopefully with the terrible play of the Cowboys defensively of late, Carpenter will get even more playing time.
     
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