Beibut Shumenov

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  1. whiteathlete33

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    Also anyone know around what time this fight is?
     
  2. Charles Martel

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    It should be starting any time. It's now about 10:23 pm in Astana.
     
  3. whiteathlete33

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    OH wow! I can't find anything!!!Edited by: whiteathlete33
     
  4. Charles Martel

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    Campillo won a close decision. Both fighters were down, it seems like Shumenov faded towards the end:

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    WBA light heavyweight champion Gabriel Campillo of Spain (19-2, 6 KOs) retained his title for the first time with a hard-fought, thrilling twelve-round unanimous decision over sensational Kazakh prospect Beibut Shumenov (8-1, 6 KOs). Shumenov, WBO #6, WBA #9 and WBC #15 175lber in the world, fighting for the major belt in his ninth fight as a pro, started the bout aggressively, throwing punches in bunches but mostly to the block of his opponent. Campillo was fighting smoothly, trying to counter the challenger from the distance and displaying savvy boxing skills in controlling the tempo. Kazakh Shumenov was visibly tired at the halfmark of the fight but dug deep to catch the second wind as the collision went on. In round nine already fatigued but yet powerful Shumenov floored the champion with a hard left to the chin. Campillo, seemingly on the brink of defeat, was able to regroup and fought back with the zeal. Championship rounds were back-and-fourth but the Spaniard solidified his position with a wicked left hook to the body that put Shumenov down early in the twelfth. At the end of the day, all three judges saw the battle in a favor of the defending titlist: 114-112, 114-112 and 114-113 â€" for Campillo. Fightnews reporter saw it 113-113 a draw. All in all, an exciting two-way action and a strong effort by 25-year old Shumenov.
     
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    Damn!!! I thought he could have won this fight. In reality since the fight was so close on the scorecards he may have really won after all.
     
  6. Charles Martel

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    International press row scored the fight a draw.

    It's possible the international judges (including Feldman from the US) were trying so hard to NOT be biased in favor of the home fighter, they gave the closer rounds to Campillo.

    Steve Smoger was the referee, and is known to be very reluctant to stop fights. Perhaps another ref would have stopped it in the 9th when Campillo was down and badly hurt.

    But it seems like Shumenov, who had been fighting older boxers like Mitchell and Griffin, wasn't ready for a younger and more aggressive fighter like Campillo.

    Campillo has been KOed by an up-and-coming European fighter, Vyacheslav Uzelkov, so if Campillo is better than most people thought, then perhaps Uzelkov is too! [​IMG]
     
  7. white is right

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    This is why you don't rush a prospect. He has the skills to be a champion. Bu this conditioning and experience are probably still green. Anyway he is still a blue chip prospect. He is also probably Eurasian as Turkic people are a mix of Mongolian and native West Asians that were the original inhabitants of the region but intermarried with the invading Mongolian armies/settlers.Edited by: white is right
     
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    I sure hope Shumenov can pull if off this time around.
     
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    From Fightnews

    In a highly charged rematch, Beibut Shumenov (9-1, 6 KOs) won a controversial split decision over WBA light heavyweight champion Gabriel Campillo (19-3, 5 KOs) on Friday night at The Joint inside the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas. Campillo was cool and accurate as he landed cleaner punches against the wild-swinging challenger. Campillo was cut over the left eye by a punch in round five, while Shumanov was busted up by a accumulation of punches. Scores were 117-111, 115-113 for Shumanov, 117-111 for Campillo. Fightnews.com scored it 116-112 for Campillo. Last August in Shumenov's native Kazakhstan, Campillo took a razor-thin majority decision in a bout that saw both men hit the deck.
     
  12. Charles Martel

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    I actually scored the fight as a close decision win for Campillo. [​IMG]

    But since most observers thought Shumenov won their first fight, Campillo may have owed him a gift decision.[​IMG]

    Anyway I clearly saw tonight that Shumenov isn't exceptionally talented, and so Vyacheslav Uzelkov will probably stop him if he has his chance. And then we'll have another white champion! [​IMG]
     
  13. The Hock

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    Isn't Shumenov a Central Asian? They tend to be very strong but not overly skilled. Sounds like he'll have a Kid Diamond type career.
     
  14. white is right

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    Yes he is Central Asian. That is true of the top flight of Central Asians that have turned pro. Ie Diamond, Nazarov and this guy. They might have a rubber bout after this decision.
     
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    He is an Asian but I wanted him to win badly. I like this kid a lot and anytime a non white beats a negro it goes in our favor.
     
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    Well I'm glad he's not white, otherwise this would've been pretty disappointing! Brinkley beat Stevens, that was cool.[​IMG]

    I scored it wide for Campillo, 117-110, nine rounds to three, including a 10-8 round. (He beat the living sh*t out of Shumenov in that round.) So I had it almost the same as the judge that scored it for Campillo. The female judge who scored it 117-111 for Shumenov is either stupid, blind, or corrupt. That score was every bit as bad as the 119-110 score for Williams over Martinez. Campillo won fairly easily.

    I agree with Parody, Shumenov isn't that good. Slow, terrible footwork, loads up and telegraphs every punch, bad stamina (I agree with the color commentator that he probably wears himself out putting everything into every shot,) terrible balance that made Campillo's shots look even more impressive (knocking off balance an already off balance fighter.) He got a new trainer but damn, it didn't do him any good! I didn't see their first fight but he couldn't have been worse than this performance. Or Campillo improved significantly (it sounds like he got started sooner in this fight. He took control after the 1st round.)

    The one successful tactic he had was the right hand to the body, but he didn't throw it enough. He was looking for the KO when he should have been jabbing and working the body. He is big and strong, good chin, lots of heart and ambition. He's a poor man's Carl Froch! He can get better, but I think this fight was as much of a physically damaging fight than a learning experience. This is exactly why boxers don't fight a world championship in their tenth fight!

    Go Uzelkov!
     
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    Ditto here. I watched several rounds of that fight, and was pulling for the Asian attorney/boxer over the negroid Spainaird.
     
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    I wish I saw this fight. I can see the negro got robbed by how many times have our guys been robbed in boxing fights? Too many to count. Were the commentators making any usual caste comments about how affletic Campillo is?
     
  19. Charles Martel

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    Yes, the commentators sounded like they were infatuated with Campillo. [​IMG]
     
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    Joe Calzaghe is probably one of the only white fighters that was always considered more athletic and faster than his negro opponents by the idiot commentators. I have watched tons of boxing fights in the past few years and the truth is that in most cases the white fighter was faster but leave it to the commentators to try and change peoples minds.
     
  21. Liverlips

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    Agreed -glad the Central Asian beat the great black dope.
     
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    As for robberies, I saw too many whites get robbed of clear wins over inferior blacks (like Haye-Valuev) so will not shed a tear if the black fighter really did get jobbed.
     
  23. whiteathlete33

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    My thoughts exactly Liverlips. Haye was given a gift decision.
     
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    Of course. That goes without saying. But there's nothing wrong with pointing out the facts, whatever they may be. And in this case, the facts are that the Black fighter was better than the Asian fighter (remember guys, he's not white! lol,) he was definitely faster, and he was absolutely, positively, flat out robbed of a well-earned, decisive, convincing victory. But that's boxing. Sh*t happens. Nobody around here is shedding any tears for Campillo, that's for sure! lol.
     
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    From Fightnews

    The World Boxing Association has rejected a request for a rematch made on behalf of former champion, Gabriel Campillo, who lost his WBA light heavyweight title to Beibut Shumenov by a 12-round majority decision this past January 29. Shumenov will next fight official challenger Vyacheslav Uzelkov.
     

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