Asian performers

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  1. freedom1

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    World Leading 27-1¾ (8.27) LJ By China's Xiongfeng Su
     
  2. StarWars

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    Nice. Always good to shift focus from black versus white. I am a bit surprised they haven't brought more indoor (60 meter) talent to the table. Has an Asian ever broken 6.60?
     
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    I think Asians- like whites- would be competitive with blacks in the 50 and 60 meters. In the 100 meters the top blacks seem to run about 0.2 seconds faster. Maybe steroids increase the tendency for the minor black hamstring strength advantage amongst elite athletes. Whites sprinters tend to power their running more with strong quads and their stride isn't quite as open due to sometimes slightly shorter leg length of those the same size as the black sprinters. Christophe Lemaitre is going to change the way people look at white 100 meter sprinters though. He will break 10 flat, maybe even 9.9 by 2012 and will have an outside shot to get a medal in 2012! I don't think he has a shot to beat a healthy Bolt, but a Silver or Bronze are a possibility! Christophe is a tall guy, with an open stride that eats up ground!
     
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    I don't think Asians are as competitive as us in the 60 meter. There have been countless whites under 6.6, and one even under 6.5. Asians actually hold their own better at the 100/200 than 60. It's weird but there you have it. It may have something to do with Asians acquiring the fast twitch gene at a far lesser rate than whites (80%) or West African blacks (99%).

    I loved watching Liu Xiang beat everyone though. He will be racing in Doha. If you don't know him he's a hurdler.Edited by: StarWars
     
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    Xiang moves on to the semis. I don't think he will make it to the final based on his form but I hope he does. Xiang is more of a 110 meter hurdler.
     
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    I don't think there is much of an indoor season in Asia, which is probably why there are few good 60m times historically for Asians.
     
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    That's a shame.
     
  8. white lightning

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    The Japanese Womens 100 Meters Record was broken today. She looks to be all nautral too. Congrats on a very nice performance. Good luck to all of the Asian Sprinters this year.

    http://www.iaaf.org/news/kind=100/newsid=56605.htmlEdited by: white lightning
     
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    Tsui Chi Ho of Hong Kong set a new National Record of 10.28 in the 100 meters.
     
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    whites and blacks do much better in athletics,we and them have all te WR
     
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    in sprinting 100 meter east asians are as good as whites, but we have a faster 200 meter, 400 meter,and much beter middel distant times 800 meter 1500, 1600 etc. and we have WR shot put, discuss trow,javelin throw,wr points decathlon,triple jump outdoor wr,1 cm behind in high jump wr( pretty good for a race where there a made movies about that they can't jump) only 9 cm behind long jump WR.the only things easdt asians have better times is hour races or such things which are not much races of and the marathon.
     
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    Some good sprinting at the Asian Championships -

    10.21 Bingtian SU - China (21 yrs old)
    10.28 Masashi ERIGUCHI - JapanEdited by: jacknyc
     
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    We've talked about the Japanese HS sprinter, Kiryu, who ran 10.01 and is threatening to become the 1st sub-10 Asian.
    But there is also a Chinese sprinter who is getting close, Peimang Zhang. He has already run 10.04 and 10.09 this year. He has also run 20.47 in the 200m
    Here's an article about him:
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/790083.shtml#.UcIjruBEC21
     
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    Zhang Peimeng.

    A nice article on Zhang Peimeng.


    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/790083.shtml#.UcGct_m1F51




     
  15. jacknyc

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    I guess you didn't read the post before yours. :happy:
     
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    Ha Ha...

    Where did that appear from. :doh:
     
  17. jacknyc

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    Youxue mo of China won the 100m at the World Youth Championships in a time 10.35. He was the only non-black in the race.
     
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    Yoshihide Kiryu ran a 10.05 (1.6w) in local meet in Japan today. But last week ran only 10.46 (-3.4) in Tokyo at a big international meet.
    He reminds me of Craig Pickering in that he runs faster against slower competition, and slower against faster competition.
    It seems that when he is behind and can't catch the leaders, he gets stressed, ties up, and runs slower. When he's in front, he relaxes and runs faster.
    Craig Pickering was like that, which is why he ran so much better as a junior than he did as a senior.
    Kiryu is only a college freshman, so he still has time to improve and could finally crack the 10 second barrier. But in order to have an impact at the international level he will have to learn to relax and run his own race even when he is behind.
     
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    Yoshihide Kiryu, from Japan, ran a 9.87 with 3.3w at the Texas Relays.
    It was the fastest time of the day.
    The time is wind aided, but since he was below 9.90, I'm sure he would have broken 10 flat with legal wind.

    As a reminder, Kiryu was the Japanese HSer who set a World Junior record with a time of 10.01. But since then, his performances were up and down. He kind of choked against big name, non-Japanese, competition....which is understandable considering he was a high schooler.
    So I think this performance represents a break through not only time-wise, but mentally too. He beat American competition in Texas.
    I expect him to break 10 flat (wind legal) soon.
     
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    Great performance but let me put this into perspective. It's not a guarantee. Nicolas Macrozonaris ran two windy sub 10's in the same day to wind the canadain national champs many years ago. Yes 2 sub 10's in the same day in different races both windy. He never went sub 10 in his career. The closest Macro came was a 10.03 and that was at altitude in Mexico. So it's a great performance but still no guarantee. Who would have though Matt Shirvinton would go run a wind legal 10.03 0.1 at 19 and never go sub 10. Shirvo went sub 10.10 multiple times but never broke the barrier. Hope the kid does it eventually but everyone ran incredible times that day.
     
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    Here's an article about Kiryu's recent sub 9.90w performance.
    Something I didn't realize earlier, is that he beat Ryan Bailey, who was 5th in the 100m at the Olympics. So it was a very strong performance not only because of the time, but because of the competition he beat.
    http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002045713
     
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    Congratulations to her indeed, sterling performance.
     
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    I had actually noticed him at the time. Then a week and a half later a 9.93 and 2nd to Asafa which further showed the value of Kiryu's run.
    I have liked Ryan Bailey for some time. Saw him interviewed and his reactions towards Christophe once and thought he seemed very decent (unlike Daniel Bailey who ignored Keller's handshake offer after a race in Germany)
     
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    8:09 pm, May 15, 2015

    The Japan NewsTeen sprint star Yoshihide Kiryu’s bid to become the first Japanese to break 10 seconds in the 100 meters was further delayed after the Toyo University freshman pulled out of the final at the Kanto Intercollegiate Championships on Friday in Yokohama.
    Kiryu, whose career-best of 10.01 puts him No. 2 on the all-time Japan list, suffered a left hamstring strain while clocking 10.37 in the semifinal, held about four hours earlier at Nissan Stadium.
    In Kiryu’s absence, Nihon University’s Asuka Cambridge won the 100 in 10.33.Speech

     

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