Another Viking Disgrace

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  1. Kaptain

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    Here's a breaking story that is big news in Minnesota. The criminal acts are downplayed and only the superficial stuff has been reported but more may be coming. Many of the workers (servers and waitresses) were teenage girls and were subjected to the lewd acts of Viking players in open public on Lake Minnetonka. Public sex acts with prostitutes and drugs galore. The details not reported yet promise to be even more disturbing. Here's an article:


    MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Authorities on Tuesday were investigating whether Minnesota Vikings players were involved in allegations of lewd behavior on two Lake Minnetonka charter boats last week.

    No criminal charges had been filed by Tuesday afternoon.
    Stephen Doyle, an attorney representing the boat owners, said at least 20 Vikings players were part of a group of 90 people who went out on a pair of Al and Alma's charter cruises last Thursday night.

    Doyle told Minneapolis TV station KARE 11 there were sexual acts happening "all over" the boats and said there's "no doubt" cornerback Fred Smoot paid for at least one of the boats.

    Doyle says he gave the authorities documents which were signed by Smoot.

    "It was Mr. Smoot reserving and paying for this," Doyle told KARE. "I don't know if he actually visited or did it over the phone. And they know he was bringing some people to go out on the lake for the evening."

    Once the boats left shore, Doyle said women started stripping for some of the players, who put down money as the women danced.

    Doyle says that escalated to players giving and receiving oral sex.

    Doyle said the outing ended early and the boats returned to shore when staff members complained to the captains that some of the people on board were engaging in sexual acts and taking off their clothes.

    "The scope of it, the nature of it and the location of it add up to pretty bizarre behavior," said Doyle.

    Doyle told KARE that it's not unusual for Al and Alma's to get calls from athletes, who often use the boats for private events with food and alcohol. But he said no one should expect the boats to be available for a sex party.

    The Hennepin County Sheriff's Office said the incident was reported Sunday. Sgt. Haans Vitek declined to comment on whether any Vikings were involved.

    "From what we're hearing, it certainly sounds that way, but we want to get it right from the people that were there," Vitek said. "We're trying to sort out all the facts and see if any of it even rises to a criminal act, or whether it was just people who were offended."

    "It was a stag party atmosphere on the boat with allegations of strippers and sexual conduct,'' Vitek told the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. "We're still trying to sort things out at this time.''

    The team had no comment.
     
  2. JoeV

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    This is being downplayed, but if a white athlete comes close to doing something like this (Mark Chumura) it is all over every news channel. [​IMG]
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    The story is finally making it's way onto the sites of ESPN and CNNSI. I haven't seen it on NFL.com or the Vikings official site yet.

    I think we can bet with confidence that all 20+ players involved are black, though it would be no surprise at all if Mike Tice was present. Edited by: Don Wassall
     
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    Kaptain Poop, you remember about 3 years ago the same thing happened with the Vikings at the "artic blast" party. What really made me mad about that incident was there were 3 vikings that were going to be charged for lewd or criminalconduct of some sort. Only Todd Boumans name was released to the public and he was let go or traded by the vikings to the Saints. Rumor was the other individuals were high profile players. We still don't know who theywere.
     
  5. Kaptain

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    KJV1, I forgot about the artic blast. You're right Bouman was the only name ever released and its seems he was innocent while several others were involved. I think our media is almost worse than the censored media in Nazi Germany. At least they protected their own people. Here is another report that reveals a bit more. Still the only named mentioned is Fred Smoot:

    http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/sports/1288 0319.htm
     
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    Fred Smoot is the only player named so far. I wouldnt be suprised if we see Bryant Mckinney mentioned. About 6 months ago, Mckinney rented out a nightclub for a private party where my friend works,and he said players were engaging in sexual acts with bar whores in front of the waitresses and everybody else. He looked up from behind the bar and there was "daddys little girl" chugging on a pickle, this was happening all around, and they didn't kick them out or anything.Looks likethe NFL isgoing the way of the NBA.


    According to the local radio station, there are pictures somewhere of this loveboat escapade. Edited by: KJV1
     
  7. Kaptain

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    The word is from people who work at Twin Cities bars and clubs is that the Viking players have been out of control. The behavior has gotten obscenely bad. This "love boat" escapade is not a one time accident. I wonder if Duante was at this affair? He was at the "artic blast" party spoken about earlier on this thread. Of course, he name was only mentioned to say that he was not involved with the sexual assualt. Why is it such a big secret as to who was there? What happened to investigative reporting?
     
  8. Don Wassall

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    Many NFL and NBA players think they are above the law. Others are just plain out of touch with reality, i.e., the NBA morons who are insisting on a "stipend" from the league to pay for new clothes after David Stern asked them to dress better (instead of like gangstas).

    The Vikings have probably engaged in such behavior so often -- and gotten away with it -- that they feel themselves entitled to do so. And I highly doubt they are unique among NFL teams in acting and feeling this way. How can a Caste System that idolizes and pampers ghetto "aff-a-letes" be otherwise?
     
  9. sport historian

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    Anyone remember the 1998 book, Pros & Cons, by Jeff Benedict? Benedict's research found that some 20% of NFL players had a criminal record. Also, Bendict wrote that the Minnesota Vikings were the worst behaved and most out of control team in the NFL. Most people mistakenly thoyght the Cowboys were the worst, but actually it was the Vikings. It's seven years later, a long time in the NFL, but the behavior continues, as Don says.
     
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    It appears that Viking great QB Daunte Fumblepepper was on the loveboat escapade. I wonder what will happen to this guy. In additon to his $102 million dollar contract he signed a couple of years ago, he was given $8 million more just for this season, otherwise he threatened to hold out. In my opinion, new owner Ziggy Wilf will have to clean house. Its kind of ironic, the vikings are meeting with the state legislature for a new stadium, this will definitly affect that outcome.


    For those of you interested the local radio station talked about this for a couple of hours and had some comments about the situation that caste football has been making for some time.To listen to the broadcaste click on http://www.92kqrs.com/streaming.aspand select the Oct 13th show.
     
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    KJ, share with us some of the comments, if you will. I can't listen to the show but would like to know what they're saying, if you can give us a summary.
     
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    Basically what was said was that everytime he was critical of Culpepper, the local media got on him and accused him of being racist, and that he is "a whitey and that he is bad" He also pointed out that the current "culture" of the vikings was brought here by coach Dennis Green, and they need to get rid of it. Another guy on the station said something like "if this were the Atlanta Falcons this would never be tolerated" They also ripped on a local sports radio station that has defended the vikings behavior at all costs. There was even some ripping on the local people here for putting up with this garbage. I couldnt have agreed more. This is the most listened to morning radio station in the midwest.
     
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    The Vikings are about as fun to watch as a clump of dirt. I don't remember the last time I watched a whole Vikings game, maybe in the 80's? Daunte Fumblepepper! [​IMG] That's freaking hilarious!
     
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    I vaguely remember that book, it came out right around the time when lots of Dallas Cowboys were way out of control.

    Anyhow this is some deeply disturbing stuff. I wonder if an atmosphere like this is what led Chris Hovan to go over to the Bucanneers?? (Gruden didn't take any gruff from Keyshawn Johnson and even suspended him so maybe things are more disciplned there. )

    And what is with stories of players getting sexual favors right out in public?? I am no prude, but please get a hotel room at the very least (oh well they would probably end up trashing it Johnny Depp-style as well)
     
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    If you haven't read the book, Pros & Cons, I referred to above, you should find it. Warning: It is rather gruesome at times.
     
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    It is interesting reading some of the sport blogs on this story. I am amazed at how many people say this is no big deal and even lament that they weren't on the boat with the players. They probably wouldn't feel this way if their daughter, sister, or mother were a member of the crew working on the boat. Many people have lost all sense of decency and responsibility.
     
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    Tice's latest quote: "I fashion these young men as an extension of my family," Tice said. "So as a father and a family man, you can probably sense how I feel."


    The irony, which I'm sure Tice is incapable of comprehending, is that very few of the players on his team would have any interest in having him as an extension of their own families.
     
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    Vikings RB Onterrio Smith, who was suspended earlier in his career for drug use, and was then caught with a prosethetic penis and dried urine at the airport, was charged with sexual assualt today. This was a seperate incident from the loveboat escapade. Apparently a woman passed out and woke up with two vikings on top of her. The other vikinghasnot been named yet but apparently he is a "prominant"player.


    Update on the vikings loveboat escapade.- Allegedly, and this has not been confirmed, a person identified as the "leader" of the offense whohappens to be married was recieving a sexual favor from aprostitute. While this was occuring a number of vikings playersencircled and pleasured themselves during the event. The number of players identified at the event is now up to 20. In addition, and this is confirmed, shortly before the outing occured there was a 911 call to the police, that 7 black men were urinating on somebodies lawn, near the place where the event occured.


    My question to fellow caste football members- if any high caliber players are let go, who will be the first team to pick them up? My bet....... The Arizona Cardinals...
     
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    Why do you think any of them will be let go? This is normal behavior in the NFL.

    Do you think the new owner meant what he said in his speech about instilling a new sense of morality, decency, and responsibility in the Viking's clubhouse or something? [​IMG]
     
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    White Shogun, I agree this is normal behavior, you know that and I know that, but all of those jock sniffers have no clue about this sort of stuff. What ultimately is working in our favor is that the vikings have been lobbying for a new stadium. People around here are pretty pissed off and it is not dying down, it is actually escalating. The legislature has been on the verge forcalling a special session for stadium funding- and before this occured it wasaboutevenly split.The firing of Mike Tice will not be enoughfor people around here. We havegot to remain optimistic andnot snap victory from the jawsof defeat.


    It will be interesting on sunday what the nfl pre-game shows have to say. The NBA is just now becoming aware of their problems, and I think this will be a wake up call for the NFL. I predict a huge standing ovation the day QB Brad Johnson takes the field. I cannot see a situation where some prominat player or players isnt let go.
     
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    Hey I mean if I was a millionaire professional football player I'd be doing the same thing. Just partying it up every single night and doing girls all the time. I can't blame the players for partying it up, doing drugs and alcohol, and having a good time. Though I don't condone how they were tryin to get on the waitresses, that's unacceptable.
     
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    Why is doing drugs and alcohol acceptable but not trying to get with the help? Same same, if'n you ask me.

    You can ALWAYS blame someone for doing drugs. No ifs ands or buts.

    These guys want to have that kind of party, so be it, but rent a room or something private where everyone involved, INCLUDING THE HELP, knows the deal.
     
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    I predict that the only guy to take the fall for this will be Mike Tice. The owner will come out an announce the firing and act like a new regime is coming in to regain control of the team (funny I thought Tice was hired for that reason). However, no Viking player will lose their job.
    WhiteCB, I've got to disagree with you. I think we can ask more from guys that are making millions of dollars on our tax dollar and ticket price. I would lose my job in a second for this type of disgusting public behavior. Drugs and circle jerks aren't my cup of tea and I definetly would be mad if my daughter had to waitress at such an affair. It's called defining deviancy down. It is what it is - unacceptable by my standards.
    Could you imagine a group of white athletes doing this? What would be the consequences?
     
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    check this out for laughs: (from BadJocks.com)

    One source is telling BadJocks that a Vikings player aboard the boat thought they would be immune from legal prosecution for their actions because the boat was, "In international waters." When told that Lake Minnetonka was nowhere near international waters (12 miles out into the ocean) the player's response was reportedly one word: "Sh*t!"
     
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    Thats funny jaxvid. But don't take my above comments the wrong way. I'm just talking about partying on off days and just having a bunch of people over for a good time.
     

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