Alexander Povetkin

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  1. itsme

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  2. Liverlips

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    Povetkin having an easy time of it so far.
     
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    End of the 9th round. Our guy dominating (as usual).

    At least 8-1 rounds for Povetkin. Only drama is if Povetkin will KO Byrd.
     
  4. Liverlips

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    Povetkin KOs Byrd in round 11. [​IMG]
     
  5. white lightning

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    Way to go Povetkin! He is quickly becoming a dominant force in the Heavyweight Division. This kid could end up giving Wlad one hell of a fight. I really wish he would fight Samuel Peter instead. I hate seeing us beat up on each other. A toast to Povetkin. [​IMG] Edited by: white lightning
     
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    Sweet!! Kudos to Sasha! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Thanks, Liverlips.
     
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    Great win for Povetkin!
     
  9. Bart

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    When I tuned into the fight it appeared Povetkin was bleeding a lot from a cut aroundhis right eye. I was curious as to the circumstances. I found this description from Yahoo's coverage. What do you know? Another accidental head butt inflicted upon the white fighter by the black opponent. Seems to happen often.


    Yahoo: "A cut opened below Povetkin's right eye early in the third after an accidental headbutt but it did not harm the 28-year-old in the following. He kept marching forward in the fourth as he pinned Byrd into the corner once more, punishing him with strong combinations." Edited by: Bart
     
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    Never heard of Joe Palooka, but you're right, there's definitely a resemblance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdd5yWLYL1U

    here's a archive of some old JP radio shows..

    http://www.archive.org/details/JoePalooka

    After I looked up a bit about this former american icon (I wonder if hollywood will resurrect him as a negro with a white trophy wife <:x) I noticed his character's similarity to a recent japanese comic character of some popularity.
    [​IMG]
    makunouchi ippo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZrRVA5suw
    enjoy your engrish.

    Im not some wapanese douchebag that watches tv all day, but I did end up watching this whole 76 episode series like the unkempt, lard assed, ramen noodle chugging japanese wannabe f**ktard Im glad I aint. Boxing is just one of those things anybody can appreciate, I guess...

    alright, no more nerdy bullsh*t. Povetkin is the Russian marciano, always pushing forward. I think he would give the strong but evasive Klitschko trouble. It's a tough call, I'd still hate to see them clash until they cleared out the rest of the bruthas :p
     
  11. freedom1

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    I just read this not so positive Eastside Boxing report on the Povetkin/Byrd fight. You people who saw the fight, is this reporter biased or accurate?

    Povetkin Stops Byrd in 11th round TKO

    alexander povetkin28.10.07 - By Ron Hansen: In the International Boxing Federation eliminator tournament, Alexander Povetkin (14-0, 11 KOs) struggled last night in Germany with 37 year-old Chris Byrd (40-4, 21 KOs) before the fight was stopped in the 11th round when Byrd's father threw in the towel.

    At the time of the stoppage, however, Byrd was still fighting effectively and landing counter shots against Povetkin. Though considered by many to be a future star in the heavyweight division, Povetkin looked mediocre against Byrd, showing very little power, speed or foot movement and only looked marginally better than the veteran Byrd.

    The first couple of rounds were fought cautiously with neither fighter doing much. Povetkin's right eye was already showing signs of swelling by the 2nd round which was made worse by a head butt in the next round, opening a cut over the eye. Povetkin was the more active puncher, throwing many more punches although many of them missed the mark or were picked off by Byrd. Unlike some of the larger heavyweights, like Wladimir Klitschko, who preferred to fight Byrd on the outside, Povetkin stayed in close quarters with Byrd most of the fight.

    That was more out of necessity than a real choice due to Povetkin's limited reach and lack of any kind of jab. In many of the exchanges, Byrd would retreat to the ropes where he would attempt to counter the slower Povetkin with fast combinations. It worked at times, but for the most part it allowed Povetkin to have a stationary target to pound away at. In between rounds, Byrd's young son advised for him to stay off the ropes. However, for whatever reason, Chris failed to follow his advice because he would go back to the ropes again and again in every round, trying to counter Povetkin.

    In the 6th round, Byrd sustained a small cut on the bridge of his nose. It was nothing serious but it would bleed the rest of the way, staining his trunks. It looked much worse than it really was. By the end of the 7th round, Byrd was beginning to look tired as Povetkin's constant pressure seemed to have a negative effect on him. However, he continued to land speedy shots and an occasional powerful left hand. In round eight, Povetkin landed a large number of shots as Byrd chose to stand and trade with him in the opening round. However, Byrd connected with a perfect left hand late in the rope, which knocked out Povetkin's mouthpiece and surprising him.

    In the 9th round, Povetkin stayed in close, smothering Byrd's punches and keeping him pinned against the ropes for most of the round. However, Byrd landed a large number of nasty-looking head shots, showing how poor Povetkin's defense is. The 10th round was very close with fighters trading shot for shot. Byrd was more effective in the first half of the round, landing a large number of powerful left hand head shots. However, Povetkin came on strong at the end of the round with combinations and made it close. In the 11th round, Povetkin hurt Byrd with a three punch combination.

    Byrd continued fighting back, however, as Povetkin was unable to follow-up with anything substantial. Still fighting back, Byrd backed up to his corner and ducked under a wild flurry of shots by Povetkin, who appeared to miss all of them. At that point, Byrd's father threw in the towel. Not sure what he was seeing because Byrd was fighting back and Povetkin was mostly missing and had nothing on his slow punches. Whatever the case, the fight was stopped at 1:52 of the 11th round.

    Povetkin looked in no way ready for someone like Wladimir Klitschko, who would easily pulverize the slow moving, weak punching fighter I saw last night against Byrd. Povetkin should perhaps pull out of the tournament because he's not ready for Wladimir at this stage in his career.
     
  12. Guest

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    Here's another review of the fight that I found at the same place:




    Povetkin v. Byrd write up (long) - by Langdford

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    ending was surprising to me, I was not expecting it to be stopped. When
    the ref waived it off, I thought the stoppage was confusing. "What's
    with these Euro wimps?" I found myself thinking for a second. I had no
    idea the towel had been thrown.



    Which raises the question, was the towel thrown in too early? After my
    initial surprise I will say I don't think so. It was surprising because
    most trainers wouldn't have pulled the plug then, but that doesn't mean
    that it was a bad idea. It was clear towards the end how the fight was
    heading, whether it would have ended by knockout or not, Byrd had taken
    a lot of punishment and was taking more and more as the fight went on.
    Yeah, he most likely could have been standing at the end of round 12,
    but he would have been beaten pretty badly over the next 4 and a half
    boxing minutes and needlessly so. The fight was over before it was
    stopped.



    Benifit of having a caring person like your father in the corner with you, but

    the best advice of the fight came from Byrds son, not father, when he
    told his dad not "to hang on the ropes like that". Very strange to see
    a kid in the corner of a heavyweight fight.



    I had forgotten what a family affair a Chris Byrd fight is. As
    concerned as his dad was, and as astute as his son was, I don't
    understand Chris Byrd's wife. Her husband had just lost one of the most
    important fights of his life, he is beaten and bloody in the corner,
    and she walks past him and hugs Povetkin like she is married to HIM and
    tells him nice job? WTF is that? I'd a been pissed. Families.



    I can honestly say, that I have seen all of Povetkin's fights and I
    can't really say that I have seen the guy lose a round before. He lost
    at least three tonight. There were moments when Byrd made him look the
    worst I have ever seen him look, by far. And, realistically, without
    being too hard on Sasha, worse than a heavyweight savior should look in
    a pre title fight.



    But still, he did well. Although there were more than a couple of
    people who picked Byrd to win this, the fight was never in question.
    Povetkin has no stamina issues when compared to other heavyweights out
    there today and he has very fast hands and puts punches together really
    nicely.

    The change in dynamics, after round 8, was either that Byrd's age had
    caught up to him or Povetkin is also able to adapt. I think it was
    both, plus a fair mixture of body shots applied before Chris Byrd
    started listening to his son's advice.



    For Chris Byrd, I can definitely say that he should hang em up. Not
    that he did poorly, but, what is the point of him fighting now? The
    answer might be, oddly, that he might do it for the love of the now
    almost non-existant American Heavyweight (and of course, money).



    After the fight, Byrd mentioned he has not (yet) lost to an American.
    Which is interesting. Byrd seems to want to pass his torch to another
    American before he cuts out.



    He did well enough tonight, and is still a big enough name (and a good
    enough win) that if he were to lose his next fight to a promising
    American,

    he will have definitely done his part to put a spotlight on an American
    hopeful. Which, is kind of a classy (if unhealthy) thing to do. Byrd
    has always been a class act.



    I doubt if there wouldn't be a bunch of boxing fans who wouldn't want
    to see a match up like Chris Arreola vs. Byrd or Chazz Witherspoon vs
    Byrd turns out. Don't front, you know you would. Byrd probably beats
    Witherspoon, though.



    And Povetkin? He probably needed this kind of fight to happen to him.
    With all the hype that has come his way, in recent photos, he was
    starting to look like he might just be believing some of it. He seems
    like a down to earth guy, but not losing a fight since many an amatuer
    tournament ago, combined with Olympic gold and one of the best, most
    one sided, pro starts in recent heavyweight history, can make even the
    most humble guy start to think that greatness for them is written in
    stone.



    Many fighters have to lose, like Joe Louis, or at least get knocked on
    their asses, like Ali vs Cooper, to realize that they are human and
    that they can be beat, before they have what it takes to go for the
    title and pull out and win a close championship fight. This is the kind
    of experience that is meant when it is said that a fighter needs
    experience. Povetkin got some experience tonight.



    A telling moment was dealing with the headbut during round three.
    Povetkin lost that round. Not because the cut was troubling, but
    because he is clearly not used to being in a situation where things
    aren't going his way. A stronger fighter Povetkin this will make.



    So what of Povetkin vs. Klitschko? First things first. He has got to
    get by the winner of the Brock v. Chambers fight. If he was looking
    past this tournament to a match with Klitschko, one hopes he has now
    woke up. I don't think either fighter (Brock or Chambers) has what it
    takes to beat him, Byrd, in many ways, might make for a tougher outing
    than either of this Friday's fighters, (the IBF has put together a good
    tournament) but Brock can punch and Chambers is young, fast and
    hopefully hungry. The winner of this fight wins kind of a quasi
    "American Heavyweight Championship" belt. Or, at the very least, second
    billing behind Tony Thompson.



    As far as Povetkin beating Klitschko, he might have the style and
    talent to do it, but he will have to do better than he did tonight.
    Klitschko won't be as big of a riddle as Byrd, but Wlad will give him
    much less time to solve it. The shots that Byrd landed on Alex Pov
    tonight will feel like playful slaps compared to what Wlad lands.



    Povetkin won clearly and cleanly, and deserves a lot of credit. But
    Byrd gave him a fair dose of education. Klitschko is the final exam.
    Alexander needs to start studying very, very hard.


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    Here's my favorite part:


    "I had forgotten what a family affair a Chris Byrd fight is. As
    concerned as his dad was, and as astute as his son was, I don't
    understand Chris Byrd's wife. Her husband had just lost one of the most
    important fights of his life, he is beaten and bloody in the corner,
    and she walks past him and hugs Povetkin like she is married to HIM and
    tells him nice job? WTF is that? I'd a been pissed. Families."



    Bwahaha! Looks like Byrd's shrieking trophy white prostitute is ready to move on!





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  13. Guest

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    As for Povetkin vs. Wlad - no, I don't want to see anything like that until - like Nopictures said - they clear out the rest of the bruthuhs. Also, Wlad is rather in a league of his own.



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    here's a archive of some old JP radio shows..



    http://www.archive.org/details/JoePalooka


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    Excellent! I love old radio and old movies and old music, too. I listened to some of those old Joe Palooka shows - a radio program about boxing!



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  15. Guest

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    As for Povetkin allegedly looking not so great, former heavyweight
    champ Byrd is an expert defensive fighter and makes almost everybody
    look not so great, and Povetkin did better against him than anyone else
    ever did except for Wlad and Ibeabuchi, and he did it in only his 14th
    pro fight!



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    Freedom1: That article on ESB by Ron Hansen was just sour grapes from a Chris Byrd fan, who was predicting that he'd win. Read the comments about the article, posted by fans.

    I don't like the way some people discredit an excellent performance like Povetkin's and try to convince the public that he's really not very good, but some things will never change. If he won every fight by 1st round KO, some haters will never give him credit. These people do the same to Wlad, Hatton, Calzaghe and other world class white boxers. The better the white fighter does, the more negativity he receives from the haters...

    ESB has another article on the fight by Ted Sares "Alex Povetkin beats Chris Byrd", posted yesterday, which gives a more balanced report.

    Werewolf: That wife of Byrd was screaming during the fight, you could hear it on the Russian broadcast. After the fight she hugged Povetkin, he gave her a look that made me laugh, like "what a crazy woman".

    Nice win by Povetkin! He is for certain one of the top five heavyweights in the world.
     
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    Congrats to Povetkin! Chalk another one up for our side! [​IMG]
     
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    She must be a mental case (which explains her choice in men other than being a gold digger). God, could you imagine being married to that frigging annoying airhead?
     
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    I saw five rounds of the fight on Youtube, and I thought Povetkin did very well. No, he wasn't overwhelming a la Klitschko, but then again, who is? He was able to cut off the ring and back Byrd into the ropes, put together excellent combinations to the head and body, and displayed good hand speed. What the heck is wrong with that?! Edited by: JD074
     
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    Watched Chambers beat Brock. Looked like Brock wasn't interested in fighting any more Russians. Chambers looked very hittable and beatable.
     
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    I agree Hockaday. Chambers' punching was excellent against Brock... the key words being "against Brock." Brock has slow hands and low energy. Chambers is certainly not going to get the same kind of fight against Povetkin (let alone Klitschko!) Povetkin has much more energy/ aggression, and much quicker hands. Chambers will not be able to so easily counter-punch a fighter with quick hands, and his defense/ stamina will be tested against a higher energy, better conditioned fighter. Chambers was literally strolling around the ring! He won't be strolling against Povetkin. He even admitted after the fight that he needs to get better, be more active, against Povetkin/ Klitschko.

    On the other hand, Chambers clearly has punching ability, and Povetkin has not been in with a big puncher. What will happen to his constant pressure style if he gets hit with big shots? Like any fighter, he'll back off, at least somewhat, if he's absorbing a lot of punishment. (Unless he's a Gatti type of fighter. I hope he doesn't have to be like that to win.)Edited by: JD074
     
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    Good analysis, JD074. I like that, "strolling" around the ring. If Chambers tries that little half turn and walk away against Povetkin, he'll get whacked in the side of the head before he gets very far.

    I think there's a little bit of a cold war going on between the US and Russian TV types, and that's why we're missing out on some of these fights. I hope we can see Povetkin-Chambers. It's a good matchup.
     
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    This video always pumps me up!

    A very fine video. I look forward to the sequel!
     
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