Adam Gemeli World 100 Meters Junior Champion (10.05)

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  1. chipsnsalsa

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    Thanks for the info about Pickering. Well he's only, what, 25? Some sprinters don't peak till later than that: Linford Christie did in his early 30s; and Marlon Devonish and Christian Malcolm running today are mid-30s, as is Kim Collins. Plus Craig's old rival Simeon Williamson came back today after years of injury and ran well, so..... But yeah, realistically I agree the odds appear not to favour him.

    Gemili's story seems quite phenomenal. As far as I can gather, until six months ago he was a sporty 17 year old kid who preferred football to athletics, and didn't train seriously. Then he went and ran 10.08, as you do! And now he's qualified for his home Olympics. Btw it's clear he's of Middle Eastern, not white origin, but it's just nice to have a change from the usual, imo.

    As for Chambers, I can kind of understand his outburst after winning the trials. Yes, he was a roider; but he's taken so much flak, for so many years from so many angles, with the BOA actually going to court to try to prevent him from running in the Olympics (something which smacked of vindictiveness - not to mention illegal restraint of trade - given that no other nation did the same, and the IOC even told the BOA it was opposed to the bylaw). It must have been pretty special for him to win, aged well into his 30s, forcing his way into the team and shoving it down the throats of all those in media, administration and elsewhere who tried to make his life difficult.
     
  2. mastermulti

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    Lewis-Francis and Aikenes just never seem to be able to produce consistently when it counts. L-F was the wunderkind who Maurice picked as a future world best. Now he seems to run a half decent time now and again and immediately proclaims he's turned the corner to greatness. Ain't gonna be!

    Pickering just has too many eager youngsters to be able to make a team now. Ironically enough I believe Gemilli may be the final nail in his representative coffin.
     
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    pickering will heal and will be back .. he is a competitor, and has belief in his own ability has a toughness white american sprinters lack!!.. it always interests me the difference between white athletes from both sides of the pond .. american white still think they cant compete(deep down ) they should take lead from the 10k lads... also the aussies , where are their male sprinters ...plenty of talk from down under ....dont tell me there isnt another shirvo there somewhere... amazing lack of respect for a fine athlete ...
     
  4. RAUL

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    what happend in 200m final?
     
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    200m ellington and malcolm ... the euros have nothing to worry about ...nothing special ....
     
  6. mastermulti

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    nope - no sprinters down here. Everybody is busy doing other stuff leaving fairly moderate sprinters to try to become great.
    Our big, fast, powerful men play various codes of football leaving mostly runts to take up the sprinter tag.

    30 year old Josh Ross did a come back to run 10.23 (-0.4) to win the nationals (selection trials) when Aaron Rouge-Serrett broke the start and dq'd. Nothing has happened since then.
     
  7. charlie180

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    I agree about Lewis Francis (too fast too soon and it went to his head) and somewhat about Pickering. I've been saying for some time that Pickering's best is behind him, and I honestly don't think he has the mental stamina or the latent speed to be a top UK sprinter. However last year he ran his fastest time for three years, which ironically, would have got him an Olympic place this year, had he run it this year. Whether he can come back and claim a top place remains to be seen, but he has missed probably his best ever chance this year. British 100m sprinting is in the regression this year. Last year we had seven men under 10.2s, this year we've had two, the lowest I can remember. The cynic in me wonders whether WADA has recently added a new drug to their testing list.

    I am also not too sure why many seem to be complaining about Adam Gemili not being white. Surely it is even better that he isn't? If another man from a non-black race breaks the 10s barrier, surely that will kick the door wide open. Lemaitre could be a freak, but if two different men, of two different races, run sub 10s that would surely put the myth of black athletic dominance to bed once and for all? Isn't that what this site is all about?

    Sure, it may not mean that any race can run 9.58s, but it is worth remembering that the Jamaican record was only 9.96s until 2004 - a record that stood for 13 years.

    Personally I think that should Gemili break 10s, it will make the next few years very, very interesting in sprinting.

    As a side note, Michael Johnson is claiming in a TV programme over here that Jamaican dominance is the result of Jamaicans having a genetic advantage, and that said advantage is the result of slavery, hardship and selective breeding. Interesting, especially as I remember him shooting down John Inverdale and came close to calling such an assertion racist, on BBC Sport, when Inverdale referred to Lemaitre as 'the great white hope'.

    Gemili breaking 10s could be even better for sprinting than Lemaitre doing so.
     
  8. white is right

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    Some scientists have also theorized that the various other races in Black sprinters blood from the Americas is the reason why they are the fastest sprinters. If you look at the fast West African times they aren't as fast as sprinters from America. Also it's not like other races haven't had forms of slavery and hard manual labor. Poor Brits were brought to America and the Caribbean and did manual labour as indentured servants. Also in Europe serfs were essentially slaves too.
     
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    Michael Johnson should not be making such shows about why blacks dominate sprints. Doing so is off putting to other race types and is down grading other race types from athletics. I have heard and seen all this slavery rubbish before relating to sprints and it can put non blacks off even trying the sprints.

    You don't see shows glorifying how whites dominate other sports like swimming or tennis. Yet always there is this rubbish about the slavery and blacks dominating sprints.

    It is all political correctness gone mad. When you see Lemaitre becoming the first white man to go sub 10, nowhere outside France has coverage on it. Yet when you hear a black man does something for the first time, it is everywhere. Double standards.

    Michael Johnson should make a show about what drugs he took. Vast majority of the successful 'black' athletes have been convicted drug takers.

    I hope more other non blacks like Lemaitre, Gemili, etc... can do well to break this out dated theory.
     
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    What can slavery offer to sprinting dominance? Sprinting is purely anaerobic in nature; long work on hot days in the field is aerobic and endurance based. If slavery where the reason, then American/West Africans should be better distance runners - most are not. East Africans are the better distance runners.

    Body Structure is more of an accuracy. West Africans, for the most part, seem to be better built for sprinting - long extremities, higher hips, and shorter torso's
     
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    Lemaitre was actually mentioned all over the place. Your UK papers had articles on him , as did ours down under and even the IAAF site mentioned his achievements
    Great exploits by anyone from a class/race/nationality considered down-trodden, true or perceived, will always achieve media space - understandably so, since whites are generally considered top of the totem pole as far as the cards life has dealt.
    As with all things in life the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other and only rarely inhabits that sensible middle part of the arc lol
     
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    I don't have much problem with the super-race thing to a point. It seems to me when you select the very best of any large group and breed from them there will be more than the average number of special specimens among them. Certainly nothing like all of them, but there's the makings of a good gene soup. Mr Hitler thought it might work.
    Yes, Brit sprinting - how bizarre that with the Olympics in your own back yard they can't field a full house. Women's relay a disgraceful situation.
    Meanwhile we down under are going from bad to worse. Our male relay teams go in ranked 15 in the 4x1 and 13 in the 4 x 4 and our females don't even get to go. Our hurdler Sally is our only decent sprinter with Melissa Breen (11.31) on the cusp.
     
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    I disagree, the UK papers didn't barely mention him, bar one - The Daily Mail - and that was a small story. But they did mention him being the fastest white man.

    The BBC didn't mention him at all, and as far as I remember the IAAF didn't mention him being the first white man to break 10s.
     
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    ahhh! the BPC wouldn't. They're more likely to paint his photo a coffee colour lol
     
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    ahhh! the BPC wouldn't. They're more likely to paint his photo a coffee colour lol

    I certainly remember a sizeable article where Dwaine said Christophe was just too fast for him and there was nothing he could do about it. No colour mentioned
     
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    In the UK if you want to be known and remembered, you need to be on the major television networks, like the BBC, ITV and Sky News. In 2010 when CL ran sub 10, NONE of these channels had any coverage on the matter at all. Total disgrace.

    I do not care if whites are regarded as having a better standard of life (simply not true in the UK anyway). If great achievements are ignored, then why do I have to hear about when other races do something for the first time. Makes no sense and is very annoying.
     
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    adam gemili won his heat at world junior championship in a time of 10.37-a eazy won for gemili he ran just 70m of race
     
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    adam won his semi-final in a time of 10.18 slowing down on the last 15 meters,he look in a great shape and if the wind is positive he will run under 10.1 maybe a pb
     
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    10.05 (+0.1wind) and new CR !!!

    Way to Go Adam !!!!

    That's 0.01 slower than Christophe's European Junior record ....
     
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    Adam "my main sport is soccer" Gemeli. Simply incredible. The kid has the total package and he will go sub 10 very soon. Hopefully he gets his first sub 10 at the Olympics! Congrats Adam. Your sprinting ability is flat out amazing!

    So to all of the Jon Entines of the world, many people can sprint. Call him whatever you want, but make no mistake. He is not black and this is good for sprinting. End the stupid stereotypes!
     
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    100 Metres - M Final

    11 July 2012 - 21:45Wind: 0.1 m/sPosition Lane Bib Athlete Country Mark . React


    1 6 338 Adam Gemili GBR 10.05 (CR) 0.155
    2 7 911 Aaron Ernest USA 10.17 (PB) 0.175
    3 3 524 Odean Skeen JAM 10.28 (PB) 0.118
    4 4 918 Tyreek Hill USA 10.29 . 0.143
    5 5 523 Jazeel Murphy JAM 10.29 . 0.154
    6 2 341 Chijindu Ujah GBR 10.39 (PB) 0.137
    7 9 728 Carlos Nascimento POR 10.41 (PB) 0.195
    8 8 181 Zhenye Xie CHN 10.49 . 0.181
     
  22. Tside

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    Yes, and he beat Darrel Brown's record from 2002!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/18780238

    (It is a shame he did not do this against Dwain Chambers at the UK Championships)

    He takes small strides, over 47 or so for the 100m, but he takes the strides very quick, producing faster cadence than even Tyson Gay.
     
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    yo multi .. i gotcha bud.. some of the rugby lads have to have it in them.. i dont blame them though .. congrats gemili.. yep and **** joe entine he and michael johson are rascist diots .. old fascist tripe!!.....:hand:
     
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    Gemili's time 10.05.
    Lemaitre's fastest time this year - 10.04.
     

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