2019 NFL Week 15

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  1. FootballDad

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    An intriguing matchup this evening as the New York Jets travel to Baltimore to play the Ravens. According to the media is clear for all to see that the reason Baltimore is number 1 and the Jets are in the mire of the middle is because of their quarterbacks. No doubt, say the media, if the situation was reversed, the Jets would be number 1 and the Ravens would be stuck in mediocrity!!

    A bit of hyperbole, but it's not far off of the mark. Credit to John Harbaugh for doing the impossible and creating the perfect team for Eraserhead Jackson to succeed.

    Looking around the league, the number of outstanding white (young and old) signal-callers is impressive and gratifying, yet all I can see on the newsfeeds from the usual suspects is how Russell Wilson and Lamar Jackson are the best in the league. And that the torch has been passed yada yada yada. Sorry, don't want to go all Shadowlight here, but it is unnerving. Needless to say, I'll be rooting for the Jets here but I don't expect much, after all, as Tom Iron says, the Jets are the Jets.
     
  2. Leonardfan

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    Footballdad - as you and I have noticed - I hope everyone takes a look at the contrast in the offenses the jets and ravens run - one is tailor made for Jackson and the other is a square peg in a round hole for darnold. The ravens built a team and gave Jackson assets to be successful. The jets oline has been bad and their best wr is an inconsistent malcontent. The ravens scheme seems to allow for recievers to get wide open while the Jets offensive scheme requires more reads and difficult passes. The supporting cast around Darnold makes his performances that much more impressive.

    I can still remember when qbs needed 2-3 seasons to learn an offense.
     
  3. BeyondFedUp

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    Hey Leonardfan,
    I just noticed the new and quite cool profile pic! When did you change it?
    (Btw, I'm hoping and confident Burrow wins the Heisman but pulling for Clemson to win it all). Not trying to detail the thread guys...I concur that Jackson has a team built around him to a tee, thus his success.
     
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    If I decide to watch this you can bet it will be with the volume off! I had a large dinner tonight and I don't feel like throwing up listening to Dried-snot tell us how eraserhead is the greatest thing to ever happen to football.
     
  5. Leonardfan

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    Hurst and Andrews have both been wide open on this drive. Why isn't a defender hitting jackson everytime they do one of those zone read plays? That is what put a stop to the whole read/zone option back in 2013.
     
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    If the Ravens offense can't run then the offense won't work. Still not sold on Jackson as a passer under normal circumstances. Jets D was undisciplined on that drive.
     
  7. PHillisFan

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    I can't believe that with all the injuries at receiver Berrios isn't getting snaps at receiver.
     
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    Good observation PhillisFan. Under normal situations I am not sold on Jackson either. But he has a fleet of white tight ends that are top notch and act as a great buffer.
     
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    Not to mention the 5+ yards of green grass around them on most of Jackson's throws. Again it is just plain baffling why the defense is not assigning one guy to spy jackson when he passes and attack at him on every read option they run. The league saw this all in 2012 and pretty much corrected it in 2013 - just goes to show how great and brilliant these coaching staffs are.

    Agree on Berrios too PHillisfan - put him in the game!
     
  10. PHillisFan

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    It's no coincidence Jackson looked like garbage trying to run the same offense Joe Flacco was running before his injury.
     
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    Aikman just said it out loud - No spy?!
     
  12. Leonardfan

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    Another BS call benefiting a black QB lead team...
     
  13. Shadowlight

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    TE Mark Andrews gets a TD after all and leads all TEs in touchdowns. The nearly all black Jets defense ( sans a white DT) looks really engaged don't they?
     
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    Not even watching. Also above I thought it was Monday night for some stupid reason. As others have wondered, why no spy on Eraserhead? They run the same rpo every time, just switch sides from right to left. Chargers last season in the playoffs shut eraserhead down for three quarters
     
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    Hewitt is about as quick and fluid as a slug yet he is a starting safety in the league :rolleyes:
     
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    Makes me wonder if a "white" Lamar Jackson could exist in today's NFL? Would his own team be "all in" on it? Would mainly all black defenses play the classic matador defense we see from week to week?

    Or would his team kind of slack off on the blocking and overall effort? Or would defenses suddenly become interested in playing tough? For that matter would a team with a white Lamar's own defense play as hard as they can. The Patriots all black defense in their Super Bowl loss to the Eagles comes to mind. If you recall Patriot white skill players were putting up monumental numbers in that game to no avail.

    Given the black locker room racial politics of today I highly doubt it. Taysom Hill is "tolerated" on the Saints because he is still a seldom used "mascot" type.
     
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    Darnold threaded a TD pass into very tight coverage and has played well except for the pick at the end of the half.

    Mark Andrews, gutting out a knee injury, with another touchdown catch.

    An earlier TD to Andrews was taken away on a bogus call, clearly there's a vast conspiracy in place to rig this game in favor of the team with the White quarterback.

    Reading this thread so far is like being caught in an approaching hurricane. Doom and gloom, how about trying something different and posting some positive things. I used to enjoy the heck out of these weekly threads when everyone was mostly posting about nice plays or TDs by White players, or good games by White defensive players. Now it's mostly incessant negativism. . . and bigunrealism every time a black QB succeeds.
     
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    Lamar Jackson is a one trick pony. He can run but if your force him to pass, both Jackson and the Ravens are screwed. It's not rocket science. Of course the Jets are just awful and have
    been for decades. Hope Sam Darnold can help them to start going in the right direction next season and in the future.
     
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    Berrios had a nice return before the half. Darnold looks good considering the team around him.
     
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    Complete busted play nobody covering Brown. Jets defense is a joke.
     
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    Jackson has made some outstanding throws, in this game and all season. Combine that with his running ability and I have no problem saying he's having a great season and that he's been the league MVP to this point. It doesn't change how I feel about the Caste System and White athletes a bit. I rooted for them before Lamar Jackson came along and I'll be cheering for them long after he's gone, and I expect his career to follow the usual meteoric rise and fall of most black QBs who have success.
     
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    Big Unreal is watching you! :hello:
     
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    One thing I'm sick of is blacks making a fake accusation of "racism," that Jackson was passed over in the draft because teams wanted white quarterbacks. As long as Jackson does well they will continue to say this.

    As if highly paid executives would risk their jobs by drafting a player they know is worse because he's white. Heck, the black GM of the Ravens, Ozzie Newsome, waited until pick 32 to take Jackson and drafted a tight end ahead of him in the first round.
     
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    At this point I'm just rooting for Darnold to finish with good enough stats to keep the jackals off his back. He's a young man with a lot of potential who's stuck on a weak team. He's had some bad games, but he's also had some great ones. For someone in his situation he's led the Jets to better than what the talking heads were predicting at the beginning of the season. Fitzpatrick's done the same with the Dolphins.
     
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    Jackson has had a great year, primary based on his running and passing at times. No doubt. However, is he better than RG3 and sCam during their first couple of years? Once he loses a step or gets injured, same old, same old. He will be regulated to token back up status ala RG3 and several other quotabacks.
     

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