2019 NFL Week 13

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  1. northwinds

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    Brady screaming at his black receivers as Edelman sits right beside him.........
     
  2. Truthteller

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    Over the years, the Patriots have repeatedly failed when selecting affletic receivers in the top 3 rounds....Not sure why they even bothered picking him so high? Would've been better off trading their first rounder for something decent -- perhaps a solid TE?

    Hopefully, Carolina will NOT activate Chris Hogan from injured reserve, as they planned to. He wasn't playing anyway before he was injured and now they are out of contention, pretty much....If he's cut, the Patriots can pick up. Let's hope so?
     
  3. CrazyFinn

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    Pats getting blown out followed by the plantation defeating MIN tomorrow would be a fitting conclusion to this lousy weekend.
     
  4. Johnny Tightlips

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    why do you have teams like the Texans and the Browns who have all black TEs on the roster? Who is a black TE in the league right now worth a damn? All I can think of is Delanie Walker and Jordan Reed, and neither of those two are ever on the field
     
  5. Riggins44

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    You're forgetting Thursday, which was good for us. Plus the Rams blew out Arizona and the midget.
     
  6. Jimmy Chitwood

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    New England’s poor selection of personnel is being highlighted for the sports world to see. they’ve completely missed the mark with any of their moves at wideout. Edelman is their only wide receiver who is worth a damn.

    i can think of literally dozens of White receivers who are better than these black bums that are suited up out there tonight for the Patriots.
     
  7. icsept

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    There’s not much left to root for on the Patriots.
     
  8. Don Wassall

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    Sad but true, especially with Brady and Edelman both near the end of their best productive years. Brady has declined some this season, but yeah he's 42, what an amazing GOAT we've been privileged to watch.
     
  9. CrazyFinn

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    This is why I don’t blame Brady for anything. He’s 42 years old! Father Time is undefeated, we’ve seen many great athletes in a variety sports hang on a little too long and get old before our eyes.

    It’s not as bad as what happened with Manning, who all of a sudden couldn’t throw anything past 10 yards after all those neck surgeries. Brady was still a top flight QB last year, and really should’ve retired on top, with nothing left to prove. A combination of age and poor personnel decisions by the Patriots has finally caught up to them.

    They are still 10-2 and will make the playoffs, but I don’t see them making it to the SB. The offense simply is not the high caliber product we are used to seeing and while the defense is good, it’s not historically good enough to carry the entire team.
     
  10. Don Wassall

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    Agreed, it will be a bit of an upset if the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again. But one can never discount experience, grit and determination. Hopefully it's one last hurrah for Brady and Edelman.
     
  11. Truthteller

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    JC, Shadowlight posted about the issue of top whites getting less targets last month. Right off the top of my head, I'd assume Philadelphia Eagles tight end Zach Ertz is among the few whites that has been a main target for his quarterback, Carson Wentz. And as Don Wassall, Crazy Finn and others have repeatedly pointed out this fall that has reportedly led to quite a bit of strife in the Eagles locker room. Much of the muckraking is coming from ESPN reporter Josina Anderson, who looks like a mix between the dinosaur on The Flintstones and a Platypus.
     
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    This seems to be a pattern that is happening far too often to be merely coincidental or ignored. For everyone who’s been calling attention to every incident of a referee overturning an interception by a quotaback, great work and keep it up. We need to try to document every incident of this because we are the only outlet that will.

    I really do think this is a way that the (((powers that be))) can put their finger on the scale without being to obvious to push their black quarterback agenda. This year it is absurd that so many quotabacks have gaudy passing stats with very few interceptions. These Wristflickers do have some talent running, extending plays with their legs and airing out a deep ball from time to time. However, their weakness is always accuracy, decision making and reading defenses. This should amount to a high amount of interceptions, even if yards and points are piled up. Think of Winston and Prescott to a lesser extent. Are we to believe that overnight blacks have erased these deficiencies???
     
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  14. Shadowlight

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    Hoping to post more later today and trying to put on a positive face which is damn near impossible for me given my gloomy disposition. But I will point a few "happy thoughts" when I have time.

    That said there is no sugarcoating these things. Three stories that are gutting me this season.

    1 and 2==the continuing non use of WRs Scott Miller and Andy Isabella.

    3== Adam Thielen has been ruled out tonight. His injury has been a killer.
     
  15. FootballDad

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    I've always been fascinated with how scouts and coaches evaluate offensive linemen. Blacks are always graded high because of "quick feet" and "long arms". The quick feet is purely subjective as white linemen always have quicker shuttle times, but hey, who needs objective measurements when they "look" slow. And the long arms thing. How does that help you as an offensive lineman? You can't grab with your "long arms" and the idea is to bring the defender into your body so that you can lock them down, not keep them at arm's length. But on average, blacks have longer arms so we'll just use that imaginary advantage.
     
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    I was at the stadium for this one. Kelce was wide open but it was badly underthrown even though Mahomes can throw it a mile (say the pundits). In all fairness though it was cold and the wind was BRUTAL. The second pass that was intercepted and then overturned on a interference review, now that was a hideous throw.
     
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    it sucks for Thielan, hamstrings are a bitch! Bad enough dealing with it for sprinting straight ahead, making cuts on it is even worse. In yesterdays game I was shocked to see the "hands of stone" from CM on a few drops as well his lack of production after the first quarter. I am thinking he has a few niggles.
     
  18. FootballDad

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    Agreed. Sure, the receiver was very slightly impeded, but not enough in my opinion for an interference call. And even if he wasn't it STILL would have been an interception. I was in the concourse using the facilities when this one happened, the local Chiefs announcing crew was on the TV's for this and even they were incredulous that this was called. Not that it mattered really, the Raiders were hideously incompetent this game.
     
  19. FootballDad

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    In this game the best player on the field for either team was Mad Maxx Crosby. Whatever side he lined up on, there was nothing that was going to happen on that side. Stolen in the 4th round by Oakland. Too white for any of the other 31 teams to pick him earlier.
     
  20. FootballDad

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    The Raider penalties (outside of the interference and one roughing call) didn't really surprise me. These are the Raiders after all and I could see most of them from my perch in the tip top of the stadium. The lack of calls of the Chiefs, now THAT was surprising. Especially on defense. They started a snow plow, so it's obvious that with superior offensive linemen that false starts and holding would be minimal ;), but defense??

    BTW, Derek Carr has taken a MAJOR step backwards the last two weeks. The interceptions that he threw were awful, and he was NOT sharp. Not sure why the Raiders didn't just keep running between the tackles. They were averaging like 8 yards a carry that way. Every time Carr went back to throw, my entire section was puzzled.
     
  21. PHillisFan

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    I hope Cousins can carve up Seattle’s secondary and hook up with Rudolph as Seattle has not been very good defending tight ends.
     
  22. Riggins44

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    Me too. I have Cousins and Rudolph on my FF team this week.
     
  23. Don Wassall

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    Another nice game for Mike Gesicki yesterday -- 5/79/1. His TD catch was one he leaped high in the endzone to come down with. His last five games he's now 21/248/2, which translates to about 800 yards over a full season. Lest anyone forget, Gesicki was nearly universally declared a "bust" earlier this season by the usual gaggle of DWFs and media caste clowns.
     
  24. Shadowlight

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    I'll try and keep this positive but I never want white people or white athletes to think the status quo is fine. I want to panic white people into positive action. That is my motivation behind some of my blisteringly negative posts.

    But let me get a couple of negatives out of the way. Read the hit piece on Dolphins RB Patrick Laird in Freethinker's Dolphins post. Missing the damn point. They won the game and Laird was integral with two nifty game sealing plays.

    Sure the 10 carries for 5 yards looks bad on paper. The Dolphins can't run block. But look further. Laird had 4 key catches for 43 yards and came up with the big plays I his first real game. So that is 14 touches for 48 yards. Not going to blow minds but pretty damn good for a first timer especially when he made three ultra key plays late when the game was on the line.

    Laird is performing as I anticipated as a versatile Rex Burkhead type who is a positive to the ledger. I had him as a 6th round pick and I was under no illusion that he will become an NFL rushing leader but I knew damn well he has what it takes to help a team. And he plays special teams. Plus he is a Rhodes scholar type. If I was a GM I would grab him in a minute.

    While on the Dolphins ultra athlete TE Mike Gesicki ( see above post) jumped over a DB for a TD ad had a 5-79-1 stat line. He has been picking up the pace of late (dialing Adam Gase who ignored him) and sometimes people make football too complicated. Does not take a genius to realize that Gesicki is a player you game plan around.

    I was watching the Red Zone and the look on Luke Kuechly's face towards the end of that disaster was telling. The frustration on his face was palpable. White on white crime too when CM was stuffed short by LB Cole Holcomb on the final goal line stand.

    Two rookie linebackers who look like they were shot out of a cannon. Chargers Drue Tranquill ( he made a couple of huge earth shattering hits in a game where Denver was handed a game) and Cole Holcomb who is very swift and showing stud like characteristics.

    Carolina has done very little to upgrade the roster behind CM and Kuechly and HC Rivera has always been a touch dull in the imagination department. Not sure where they are heading but they need a QB for the future. I think Rivera's days are numbered.

    About the Patriots last night. They almost pulled it out. With just under a minute they almost recovered the on side kick and who knows. They were down by 5 with just under a minute and another classic Brady TD drive was very possible. In the game WR Edelman was double teamed throughout but still managed to gain over 100 on six catches including a superb late TD. The Pats don't have a vintage team but even here at CF going back a couple to few years ago I have heard a few say the Pats and Brady are done. Never me on that score. And given the fact that there are no great teams I wouldn't begin funeral reservations just yet. The media is saying the Texans let there guard down but I saw it as the Pats wearing them down and figuring them out. They just ran out of time.

    Two important stats. The great TE Travis Kelce (is he the best player in the NFL?) has a 68-923-4 stat line and is on the verge of becoming the first TE in the NFL to have four one thousand yard seasons. And Edelman is at 82-915-5. Consider how tough he has been getting clobbered by angry black DBs up the middle year after year. Next to his name in the dictionary is pure grit. I wish more white athletes would follow his lead with his take no prisoners approach.

    In my grading of Jets WR Braxton Berrios I figured even if he didn't become a top tier receiver he was worth keeping around for special teams. Witness he is currently leading the entire NFL in punt return average at 10.07.

    Bengals WR Alex Erickson is having his best season with a 30-407 stat line. Better than not seeing the field.

    Finally and I probably depart from some members here but I don't have a big problem with black quarterbacks as long as they throw the ball to white players. Ha. And the media buzz surrounding the likes of Lamar Jackson is beyond irritating. But a closer look at the Ravens is very revealing. First their all black defense is good but not great. Sound enough to keep them in games but can be exploited. Their O line is solid and allows for a solid running attack that includes Jackson.

    Their kicking game is top of the line as a member pointed out here but their WRs are below average. Willie Snead is a no speed low level talent (24 catches). And hyped rookie speedster Marquise Brown has one move. Run down the field. After catching a few teams by surprise he has come back to earth and hasn't been a big factor of late.

    The not so secret weapon of the Ravens is their fleet of tight ends. Nick Boyle is the epitome of the solid old pro. Hayden Hurst can do everything and this ex baseball player is a great athlete. Then there is Mark Andrews who has a 53-693-7 stat line and is a one of the better catching TEs in the NFL with the ability to go deep. And Jackson relies heavily on this three headed monster. Also I think we are seeing more and more black QBs not reluctant to chuck the ball to white receivers. Am I sold on Lamar as a terrific passer who can close the deal and win a Super Bowl? Not really but like the Eagles the Ravens have tight ends that can destroy opponents.
     
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    The Vikings off to a good start. They lead 7-0 early in the first quarter!
     

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