2019 NFL UDFA Tracker

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  1. Deceptive Speed

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    Thought I'd make a thread to post any new white UDFA's.

    Bills
    WR David Sills WVU
    WR Nick Easly IOWA

    Dolphins
    OL Ryan Anderson WAKE
    WR Trent Irwin STAN
    RB Patrick Laird

    Patriots
    TE Andrew Beck TEX
    OG Tyler Gauthier MIA

    Jets
    OL Toa Lobendaun USC
    OG Wyatt Miller UCF

    Ravens

    TE Charles Scarff DEL
    TE Cole Herdman PUR
    OG CJ Toogood ELON

    Bengals
    OT Keaton Sutherland T A&M
    QB Jacob Dolegala C CONNECTICUT St (D-11)

    Browns
    QB David Blough PUR
    TE Stephen Carlson PRINCETON

    Steelers
    TE Trevor Wood T A&M

    Texans
    S Chris Johnson N Alabama (D-11)

    Colts
    TE Hale Hentges

    Jaguars
    LB Connor Stratchan BC
    TE/FB Carson Meier OKL
    WR Michael Walker BC
    S Andrew Wingard WY

    Titans
    OT AT Hall STAN

    Broncos
    LB Joe Dineen KAN
    TE Austin Fort WY
    QB Brett Rypien BOISE St
    OT John Leglue TUL
    FB George Aston PITT


    Chiefs
    QB Kyle Shurmur VAN
    FB/RB John Lovett PRINCE
    WR Cody Thompson TOL
    C Bruno Reagan CIN
    TE Logan Parker S UTAH
    S Gaje Ferguson

    Chargers

    OG Chris Brown USC
    OL Blake Camper S CAR
    LB Josh Corcoran N ILL
    TE Daniel Helm DUKE
    OG Koda Martin SYR
    C Tanner Volson NDST
    TE Matt Sokol MICH St

    Raiders
    FB Alec Ingold WIS
    S Jake Gervase IOWA

    Cowboys
    OT Mitch Hyatt CLEM
    OG Brandon Knight IND
    LB Luke Gifford NEB

    Giants
    C James O'Hagan BUF
    OT Paul Adams MIZZ
    S Jacob Thieneman PUR
    CB Jacob Carlock LIU (D-11 Long Island Post white Corner alert!!)
    DE Jeremiah Harris EMU

    Eagles
    C Nate Herbig STAN
    LB Joey Alfieri STAN
    OG Ryan Bates PENN St
    OG Keagan Render IOWA

    Redskins
    DT Ryan Bee MARSH

    Bears
    OL Blake Blachmar BAY
    OT Alex Bars ND
    TE Dax Raymond UT St
    OG Joe Lowery OHIO
    DE Mathieu Betts LAVAL (Canadian college)
    WR Spencer Schnell Ill St

    Lions
    OT Alex Bookser PITT
    OG Beau Benzschawel WIS
    TE Nate Becker MIAMI (OHIO)
    DT Matt Nelson IOWA

    Packers
    TE Davis Koppenhaver DUKE
    DT Sam Brincks IOWA
    Vikings
    QB Jake Browning WASH
    TE Brandon Dillon MARIAN
    OL John Keenoy

    Falcons
    S Parker Baldwin
    C Chandler Miller TUL
    WR CJ Worton FIU
    LB Durrant Miles BOISE St

    Panthers
    LB Jordan Kunaszyk CAL

    Saints
    TE/WR Jake Powell MONMOUTH
    LB/S Chase Hansen UTAH

    Bucs
    QB/WR/TE Nick Fitzgerald MISS St
    OT Zach Bailey S CAR
    C Nate Trewyn WISCONSIN-WHITEWATER (D-11)

    Cardinals
    QB Drew Anderson MUR St
    TE Drew Belcher MAINE

    Rams
    LB Troy Reeder DELAWARE
    OL Brandon Hitner VILLANOVA
    OT Chandler Brewer MTST
    WR Alex Bachman
    C Vitas Hrynkiewicz YOUNGSTOWN St

    49ers
    QB Wilton Speight UCLA
    OG Ross Reynolds IOWA

    Seahawks
    QB Michael O'Connor BRITISH COLOMBIA (Canadian college)
    FB Winston Dimel UT EL PASO
     
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  2. Leonardfan

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    At least we have some white DBs going in as UDFAs. Not ideal but hopefully they can make an impact and land on practice squads.

    Thieneman
    Carlock
    Baldwin
    Johnson
    Wingard
    Ferguson
    Gervase (I believe he has a tryout)
     
  3. Red raider

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    Everywhere says Jake Carlock is a CB for some reason but I believe he’s playing OLB or SS, he’s 6’3” 225lbs, would be cool to see a white guy that size playing corner though.
     
  4. Leonardfan

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    Just read that Thieneman suffered a non-contact knee injury and is now out and may require surgery. Sounds like an ACL. Terrible break for him.
     
  5. Deceptive Speed

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    Yes the Giants are giving a white CB a shot in Jake Carlock! It seems to me since the Giants were the last NFL team to start white CB in Jason Sehorn, they are best bet for a white CB to get a chance in Today's NFL. Although I would've thought the Patriots would have gaven a white CB a chance by now!??
     
  6. Truthteller

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    Just did something I never thought I'd do, I spent about 30 minutes looking up New York Giants breaking news.

    It appears Jake Carlock is being listed as a safety by the Giants and one media reporter claimed Big Blue used him quite a bit at linebacker during rookie workouts. Carlock playing cornerback during the pre-season does not seem likely based on the early info, but who knows?

    In the rumors & musings thread, Shadowlight has done a great breaking down some of the more athletic quarterbacks trying to follow in Taysom Hill's footsteps. First thing to note, however, is Hill is much faster than most players in league, so to me he appears to be a bit of a "outlier" in the racist league... So for any white quarterback/athlete trying to gain his status as a QB/KR/WR/RB, I think that will be a very tough act to follow.

    As I've noted before on this site, I really loved Eric Dungey of Syracuse as a "athlete". I figured NFL teams would be wise to look at him as a wide receiver or even running back, if not the Taysom Hill role as Jack-of-all trades? Caste reality is, the Giants have listed Dungey as a quarterback/tight end. Yes he played mostly tight end the last two day in rookie workouts! If that's true, you can pretty much forget the Hill comparisons. I seriously doubt Taysom has had to bulk up to block linebackers fulltime?

    Also, things don't look great for Dominick Bragalone, tailback from Lehigh, who tested off the charts at Pro Day. He has not been signed after his tryout. So far the Giants have only signed a pair of foreign born blacks from try-outs -- a DB from Nigeria who attended Delaware and a DE from Bath, England, of all places? Bragalone might be wise looking into the CFL, at this point?

    If there was some good news from this weekend, the talented quarterback from Duke the Giants took in round 1 reportedly looked great in workouts. It's early, but after all the slings and arrows he's taken from black racists, white trash and the Caste media (mostly ESPN) the last 10 days for the crime of being selected ahead of Saint Dwayne Haskins, it was nice to see he looked sharp in non-contact drills and impressed most of the more objective media -- beat writers. Hopefully he's similar to Kristap Porzingis, who was also trashed by fans and media after he was picked, but impressed right off the bat in NBA Summer League. Heck, I read a "NBA Draft expert" from the Bleacher Report went on NYC radio after he was picked and predicted Porzingas would spend at least one year (perhaps two) in the D-League, due to a lack of strength and talent? Yea, how did that prediction workout, Bleacher Report Caste-Jackal!


    P.S: While looking up the info above, I saw the Buffalo Bills handed the scattered-armed, black quarterback from the University of Buffalo a $75,000 signing bonus as an undrafted player. That's stunning based on what I've seen -- last year teams were only allowed to spend $98,340 on all UDFA rookie bonuses*..... (By the way, the $75,000 figure came from ESPN's Caste-stooge Adam Schefter, who likely mixed up guaranteed base salary and guaranteed signing bonus?)

    * https://heavy.com/sports/2019/04/nfl-draft-undrafted-free-agents-salaries-contracts/

    P.S 2X: Kansas City Chiefs UFA signing bonuses posted; Toledo WR tops list: https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/28/kansas-city-chiefs-undrafted-free-agents-earn-big-money/

    P.S. 3X: Buffalo Bills undrafted free agent David Sills a $35,000 signing bonus?


    If anyone cares and/or has the time, checkout the Twitter account of Houston Chronicle NFL writer Aaron Wilson, who is the source of the signing bonus totals. Players that get higher UFA signing bonuses tend to have a better chance to stick as rookies?
     
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  7. Shadowlight

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    I certainly didn't know squat about UDFAs signing bonus "averages" and such but the two WRs we thought should be taken that were ignored I would hope have a chance to make their 53 man roster. But from what I have read you are right there does seem to be a limit to the signing bonuses so the 40,000 for Cody Thompson and 35,000 for Sills seems to be the going rate.

    Cody Thompson is with the Chiefs and I am deeply suspicious about what they are doing given their caste draft. Some rumors suggest they could utilize him but I would be surprised. He is a standout special teams player though so he could sneak in the back door. Then again I could imagine a scenario where they play "swap the honkies" and displace teetering WR Gehrig Dieter with Cody Thompson. They could just keep Dieter. Of course there is probably the likely scenario where neither one makes the 53 man roster. What are the odds they keep both? Place your bets. Not on horses though that is bad for your health.

    The media just doesn't let up on Sills and Thompson because nearly every article alludes to their "lack" of speed. But their time is roughly average for NFL WRs so why the fuss? Given their size they are probably slightly faster in their 40 times. Business as usual. But the reports skip over the part where Thompson killed in the probably more important 20 yard shuttle. Both players are big time leapers. A more accurate description would be both are athletic with solid speed but try finding that realistic portrait anywhere except here.

    The Sills situation still seems like a good fit for him. If he just landed on any old team I could see him getting washed away ala Chad Hansen. But in Buffalo I don't see why Sills and QB Allen can't hit it off. Sills needs to take a page out of the Welker/Edelman playbook and essentially become Allen's puppy dog retriever. He says jump you say how high kind of thing. The Bills need receivers desperately and with Sills being a former QB it just seems natural that him and Josh Allen will bond on and off the field. Maybe I am being way too optimistic but I think it will work out for Sills. See below why the media thinks he has a real shot too.

    https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/NFL-Contract-Details-for-David-SIlls-131808997/

    Adam Schefter's twitter page has a video of the Bills draft day "war room." There are maybe up to 50 people in that room. And none of the people in there look like minimum wage types. These NFL teams must be overflowing in big bucks.

    As for much maligned QB Daniel Jones I have to say he has handled the adversity with aplomb. You can tell this young man has great character with a good head on his shoulders. That translates into leadership and I suspect that, along with his talent, is why the Giants GM nabbed him. He has one advantage over Porzingis. Jones is more mature. And I agree the Giants beat writers are backing up a bit. Kimberly Jones the NY football reporter for the NFL network is even warming up to him after initially deriding the pick.

    Knowing the whiny Giants fans pretty well, if Eli and the Giants get off to a slow start they will be clamoring for Jones in short order. The Giants are becoming vaguely interesting after years of being nothing but a caste waste pan.

    As for the new Taysom Hill types I am fairly confident McSorley makes the Ravens roster. Truthteller is right about Dungey, That TE talk is the kiss of death.

    Nick Fitzgerald has a shot. There are lot of things that could go right in Tampa Bay but we will have to wait and see if Arians and his motley crowd reverse their caste drenched history and allow for more diversity on their team? Which means seeing white skill players in the foreground.
     
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  8. Truthteller

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    Great points, Shadowlight. I agree, Trace McSorely clearly has the best chance of carving out a niche as a "athlete" in the NFL, among the rookies. Will be interested to see how he fits in Baltimore? Julian Edleman was a college quarterback that started out returning punts for the Patriots. Eventually he was also used as a backup slot receiver/cornerback, until he settled into his current role as starting slot receiver. Back in the early 2000's Mike Martz of the Rams took some McSorely types in the draft and tried to convert them to other positions -- Eric Crouch (Nebraska) and Steve Bellisari (Ohio State). Crouch, a 3rd round draft pick, refused to leave quarterback and was gone for good; Bellisari never quite caught on at safety at a time the Rams had many white defensive backs. Heck, in the latter part of the 1990's even Caste-stooge deluxe Bill Parcells (Jets) used a 3rd round pick to select Nebraska quarterback Scott Frost, with the purpose of moving him to safety!

    I agree, any talk of Eric Dungey or Nick Fitzgerald being moved to tight end is very bad news. I mean, can you think of any white college quarterback that was moved successfully to tight end? Only goy I can think of was Jim Jensen of the Miami Dolphins during the 1980's to the early 1990's, although some sources listed him at wide receiver**. As I recall, Jensen wasn't really that big, so he was only a tight end in name only. Reality is, he was more of a Jack-of-all trades , taller slot receiver, by today's standards. Asking a college quarterback to move to tight end is tantamount to career suicide. Dungey and Fitzgerald might be better off going to the CFL as quarterbacks rather than trying tight end?

    By the way, speaking of the Giants and tight ends, I've read the top undrafted prospect in rookie workouts was ex-Kentucky tight end C.J. Conrad. According to beat writers he stood out the most among all the non-draftees and has a chance to not only make the team, but get a lot of playing time.

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    Speaking of David Sills, here's great link (due to the comments section): http://wvmetronews.com/2019/04/27/west-virginia-nfl-draft-david-sills-buffalo-bills/

    Decent comments from someone name Dave Jonas, comparing Sills size/measurables to New Orleans' top receiver, who made the Pro Bowl. Eventually a pair of cucks or racist blacks surf in to basically tell him "NFL teams are colorblind", but he stands his ground and others have his back. Nice to see. That would not have happened ten years ago. Not sure I agree with his theory of Dwayne Haskins also being the victim of stereotypes, but he probably felt he needed to balance things out in order to not appear racist among the DWF's?


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    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JensJi00.htm
     
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  9. Red raider

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    Bears signed former Princeton WR (now a TE) Jesper Horsted after his minicamp tryout.
     
  10. Truthteller

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    For rockybleier and other posters interested in white running backs, here's a great update on Dominick Bragalone. It appears he might not even sign a UFA contract, which essentially means he can't make a single pre-season 9o man roster.

    Bragalone has accepted another tryout offer, this time with the Houston Texans. But that's become another big time Caste cesspool in recent years. He's very frustrated; his agent is stunned after his great showing at Pro Days....Bargalone is blaming his inexplicable snubbing on him playing at a smaller school .......and the beat goes on!

    https://www.mcall.com/sports/colleg...0190505-wzq26s3ttbev5d36mhsq3cwngm-story.html
     
  11. rockybleier

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    Still waiting on news about AJO.....No camp guarantee......
    Bragalone should get a chance. Look at the Slippery Rock kid getting a chance.
    Let’s a/b Brag and the sru kid on production and measurables.......and high school pedigree.....I could be wrong, but let’s check it out....I’ve heard nothing about Sam McPhereson.....Kupp had to put up ridiculous numbers, solid isn’t enough.....
     
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    There were a number of excellent white prospects available after the draft. The fact that they weren't drafted makes one scratch one's head and wonder if their race wasn't a factor in them not being drafted.

    Here are five good prospects that were available as UDFAs.

    OT Mitch Hyatt. An iron man at Clemson who was a key component of Clemson's championship team. Held his own against the best college competition. Signed with Dallas.

    Wisconsin G Beau Benzschwabel. Comes from a program that regularly produces pro players. Benzschawel could be the next one. Signed with Detroit.

    Utah State TE Dax Raymond. A good receiver with potential as a blocker. Probably knocked down because of coming from a small school but should have been drafted. Signed with Bears who seem to like small school players.

    WR David Sills was projected to go in the top half of the draft but went unselected. A touchdown machine and excellent deep threat. Signed at an excellent place for him in Buffalo. Should pair well with Josh Allen.

    Toledo WR Cody Thompson is athletic with good size. Posted an 8.51 RAS. Productive. Comes from a small school but still should have been drafted. Signed with the Chiefs.
     
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  14. Shadowlight

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    Good points EP.

    I would take the news coming out of the Chiefs camp with a heaping grain of salt because we know the drill. The white player gets talked up in the springtime only to be forgotten come fall.

    But Cody Thompson has been the odd man out this draft. With the headliner the exciting David Sills not being drafted and Scott Miller surprisingly but deservedly getting drafted, lost in the shuffle was Cody Thompson who most of us had pegged as a 5th round talent.

    Word is he has been the most impressive rookie at the Chiefs mini camp. Again he has solid speed, great hands, off the charts agility and wiggle. He consistently beat defenders deep in college. And he can really leap with a near 40 inch vertical.He is also a top line special teams player. How may ways can you spell no brainer?

    Once again the draft was loaded up with marginal filler type black WRs while more deserving types like Cody Thompson and David Sills have to fight like street urchins to gain a roster spot.

    Dax Raymond? Can't figure out why no one pulled the trigger on him. He ran a 4.5 plus on his pro day and has a big upside.
     
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    No word on AJO’s tryout yet.....
     
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    Spencer Schnell (Isabella sized WR from Illinois St) has made the Tampa cuts.....
    Not sure if he has been mentioned on here......A long shot like all tryout guys.......
    I did a bit of research on the young man......His dad played in the NFL for a minute.....
     
  18. rockybleier

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    As noted on other threads, AJO has been signed by the Saints.....
     
  19. Truthteller

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    Was looking for an update on one of poster rockybleier's favorites Dominick Bragalone, who had a try-out with the Houston Texans last weekend, a week after failing to be signed by the New York Giants (try-out). No news on whether he was signed, but it does seem unlikely, considering his signing has not been reported three days after?

    However, I did find something on one of poster Shadowlight's favorites and it's good, even though it way too early to get excited: https://footballmaven.io/texans/new...g-opening-day-of-work-M-qQQImViUSxaonskIRhXw/
    Just a note: The author of the article I posted above goes by the name Patrick Starr. I assumed it was just a random fan writer at a DWF site, taking on a screen name from the Sponge Bob Square Pants cartoon character, who always reminded me of Caste buffoon Mike Tice. Turns out Patrick Starr is likely his real name, as it says he does a talk show on Houston AM radio. So his opinions probably carry a bit more weight, given his status. Also I believe Starr omitted the word Little or Limited when talking about Houston's depth at safety, after the top three, because they only have ex-practice squad types for depth 4 to 6? Currently Chris is listed as the Texans 7th safety at Ourlads.com.

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    Also, the Rams have signed ex-Iowa safety Jake Gervase after a try out: https://nfltraderumors.co/rams-sign-three-more-undrafted-free-agents/

    Barring injuries, I'd assume Gervase's best shot is making the Rams' practice squad, then working his way up, considering how hard he had to fight just to get signed to the 90 man roster?
     
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    I have been in the dumps lately for a variety of reasons. The NBA draft. The high school football camps where the black players keep dominating the 40 yard dash which greases their way into the big power schools. The black out on ESPN where everything revolves around the next black stars. The sordid non white look that has enveloped MLB. The top tier high school basketball recruits from various classes are nearly totally awash with black players. The NBA playoffs where white players are not the main focus. And on and on.

    I am suffocating!! It takes the joy out of everything for me.

    So at least a small thanks to Truthteller for giving me a spot of hope with S Chris Johnson. The two most important UDFAs to make their squads for me are Johnson and WR David Sills. And right behind them would be WR Cody Thompson and QB/RB Nick Fitzgerald. If these players make their teams I can at least relax a little bit. God knows I need something to hang my hat on.

    Speaking of the Texans their FB Cullen Gillaspia, who was drafted isn't your everyday blocking FB. He is a real athlete with 4.5 plus speed. Chandler Cox was another FB chosen by the Dolphins who is also a well built athletic type of FB/TE type.

    S Gervase is another talented athlete that got washed up on the dead white man DB shore. Such a shame what is going on.
     
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    Cardinals signed DB Tyler Sigler after rookie tryouts. He’s a big 6’3” 215lbs safety from Wheaton College.
     

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