2019 NFL Draft

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  1. Bucky

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    Yes they would @Red raider! It's a shame both Nelson and Matthews are gone now. So many of their Jerseys are still being worn in Packer Country. That probably won't change anytime soon if it ever does.

    No worries @Leonardfan . Got a little carried away with the abbreviation. Definitely hoping to see both the Wisconsin LBs mentioned get Drafted.
    Both USC LBs are beasts as well. Personally I'd have Gustin slightly higher rated than Smith just based on injury history. Though that's the only slight knock Ive got on the guy.
     
  2. Extra Point

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    I think Tony Pauline of Draft Analyst is one of the better media draft guys. His analyses of players seem more on the money than most. You can get a good idea of the player with his assessments.

    He's fairer to whites than most though he still underrates them.
     
  3. Red raider

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    He was never really considered a draft prospect but Colorado slot receiver Jay MacIntyre has decided to follow his father in coaching instead of giving the NFL a shot. He had a nice career as a 3 year starter with over 1,000 career receiving yards.
     
  4. Shadowlight

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    Call me crazy but the butt hole media is stealing my material. When discussing rising ( and I mean fast) QB Daniel Jones I brought up the name Ryan Tannehill and two nights ago an ESPN talking head said the same thing. I also alluded to Alex Smith and would do you know a talking head on ESPN this morning compared him to Alex Smith. Where is my commission?

    One of the great questions in this draft is how many white LBs are drafted. I would add Stanford's Joey Alfieri and in my mind all of the LBs Leonardfan listed above are easy draft picks. In fact most if not all avoid the 7th round hope and pray situation in terms of real talent in my mind. There are plenty of stunningly talented white LBs in this draft. Just a heap of terrific players. The best lot in ages.

    But here is the rub. Bucky mentions the two Wisconsin LBs who are mid round talents at worst. But sources I have glanced at generally do not have either in the sure shot category.

    In other words this is going to be a sweat it out draft with a lot on the line. Will the NFL rightfully draft these players and add enormous white LB talent to their rosters or will they cop out like cowards like they so often do?

    Of course the NFL wants fast black WRs so they can stick it up our asses as a ritual for the masses. And they limit the number of potential white blazers who could embarrass the black DB core. The black DB. You know. The greatest athletes to ever roam the earth according to the ass wipe pontificators,

    And every year the NFL has a black WR cutie pie that everyone marvels at. Oh what speed. One of their precious boys this year is Marquise Brown. Probably yet another fake in a whole line of them. Hope he tears both of his ACLs.

    The draft is a week away and I am already in my rotten pre draft mood preparing for the worst when given the outlay of great white talent this go around I really shouldn't have to be worried. Somehow I still am.
     
  5. Red raider

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    I’m right there with you, this is a very exciting and important draft but also very scary, I honestly could not tell you where anyone of our guys will likely get picked besides Nick Bosa. I’m sure we will have some nice surprises and probably also plenty of bad surprises, I’m just hoping not many of our guys that deserve to go before round 5 get picked super late or not picked at all. The best example I can think of this of a guy who everyone thought would go much earlier is Trey Quinn, he should’ve been a 4th round pick.
     
  6. Extra Point

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    I still don't understand how he lasted until the last pick in the draft. Even teams which let white receivers play, such as the Vikings and Patriots, passed on him.

    All I can think is he didn't have a blazing 40 time. I suspect the teams place far too much weight on the 40.
     
  7. Red raider

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    I usually don’t care much about what the draft analysts have to say but I’m watching NFL network and Louis Riddick is hyping up Chase Winovich a lot, he projects him 46th overall to the Redskins. Personally, I think it would be a great landing spot for him. He’d be able to team up with Ryan Kerrigan and Matt Ioannidis.
     
  8. Shadowlight

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    His combine time was 4.55. He had a solid 20 yard shuttle. But his pro day time was 4.45. This tells me he wasn't fully prepped to run a 40 yard dash. So split the difference and he is a solid 4.5 40 runner which shouldn't cause any drop.

    Of course Coach Gruden wanted to draft Quinn earlier but was shot down by management. So on the scouting level you are right he was a solid mid round talent. Factor in the caste ass wipes who run these teams and a different story emerges.
     
  9. Extra Point

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    Do you know what round Gruden wanted to draft him in?

    In any event Quinn is going to prove all those who passed on him wrong, barring injuries.
     
  10. Shadowlight

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    I don't know what round Gruden wanted to draft Quinn in but I assume it was the 5th round. Think about it. The idea of Apke in the 4th followed by Quinn in the 5th must have set some of those front office clowns into a tizzy.

    Mike Golic who is one of the biggest caste jerks on the planet was complaining the Giants might pick Daniel Jones over Dwayne Haskins.

    Forget for a moment Golic has no clue other than one is black and the other is white.

    And I am in the minority here thinking Haskins could turn out to be a decent NFL QB. I prefer Jones because of his mobility.



    Apart from QBs I can only think of two white stars in the Giants not so recent memory now. Jason Sehorn from 1994-2002 and TE Jeremy Shockey from 2002-2007.

    The Giants have been a caste laden team for so long the idea of having white skill players doesn't even enter their fan's minds.

    Expect to see a negative reaction if the Giants pull the trigger on Jones instead of Haskins (or Murray if they were able to trade up etc.).

    Much like the reaction Knicks fans gave Porzingis the night his name was announced. See below. Notice the little kid. Probably his dad next to him and you can bet he choreographed the whole thing. His son has already been brainwashed. Caste thought is passed down from generation to generation now and I think that it is even more prevalent with fans of teams who have been historically very caste.

    Is it possible Giants fans could learn to like white players? Of course but only if they perform at a high level. The bar is set higher for white athletes. Porzingis became well liked. Brett Gardner of the Yankees is well liked despite not putting up big numbers but he has been a gritty clutch player through the years. But their first instinct, after years of indoctrination, is to be caste.

     
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  11. Leonardfan

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    I think Haskins can be decent at the next level. He is a pocket passer which bodes well for him. A lot of the OSU offense was predicated on short passes/slant routes in which the receiver was typically pretty wide open - they killed Michigan with easy slant routes. As a person he isn’t the idiot Anus Winston is either - he seems to be a fairly stable kid at this point. The offensive system and his lack of experience are big red flags. As a qb I would say Haskins career will probably be similar to Anus Winston’s with perhaps a little better ball security. We all are seeing Anus being treated with kid gloves though by the new head cuck Ariana but I don’t want to get off topic.

    If I were an NFL team and had to pick between Haskins and Murray I would pick Haskins every time. Murray is nothing but a flash in pan and will be a bust/fail to live up to the hype.

    I still feel Lock, Jones and Grier will pan out better if they are given the same opportunity.
     
  12. Shadowlight

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    Murray to me is the greatest salesman (or con man if you will)) going. Fully aware that the media loves more than anything else the idea of a fast dynamic running black QB, Murray played with them a bit by adding in the baseball bait ordeal. "He can do everything" marveled the love struck media.

    We here at CF pretty much knew damn well this dude wasn't going to sloth his way through the minor leagues.

    Murray is like one of those Rolex watch replicas. Shiny and magnificent except for one thing. He isn't the real deal. Hopefully the Arizona Suckers oops I mean Cardinals snatch him up.

    The media as we know will lap it up like drunken dogs. It will be non stop caste balderdash.

    And then it will all be forgotten about down the road when the Cardinals still suck and the next great "black" thing comes along.
     
  13. Leonardfan

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    We are only 7 drafts removed from the gremlin hype. The Murray hype is just about as ridiculous. After observing enough drafts you pick up on trends and things of that nature. The media made it a big deal that gremlin ran a 4.3 40. We saw him get chewed up and spit out of the league and now back as a clip board holder - a far cry from what the media hyped him up to be. Now all I hear about is how fast Murray is and athletic - the exact same hype.
     
  14. Leonardfan

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    From weenieworld:

    A survey of NFL evaluators concluded that UMass WR Andy Isabella is WR15.
    Isabella (5'9/188) does not get the same love from the NFL as he does from the analytics community. After leading college football in receiving yards by more than 200 yards, Isabella ran a 4.31-second 40-yard dash, but no amount of production and speed can fully make up for his lack of size and competition level. Isabella will be an interesting case study in seeing how much analytics is being incorporated into the draft, but Isabella seems to be on the Day 2/3 borderline.


    Right now a black WR at 5'10 168lbs is being hyped up the 1st WR taken. He played at Oklahoma against mediocre Big 12 defenses for the most part and is coming off of post season surgery. There could be some smoke screen here but I really would not be surprised to see Andy fall - we have seen white athletes fall before due to race. Isabella is getting knocked for playing at UMASS but as an independent they scheduled games against some better teams - Boston College, South Florida, Ohio, BYU and Georgia in 2018. Isabella dominated caste favorite UGA. The whole level of competition argument is more and more becoming an issue with white players.
     
  15. Johnny Tightlips

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    I hope this will be the trend in football over the next decade. Analytically minded nerds taking over front offices and forcing out these narrow minded boomers who aqueous to the caste dogma. It worked for the MLB
     
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    So a guy that is an inch taller and 20 pounds lighter can somehow be in the running for top receiver but Andy, with all of his metrics and stats is day 2/3? WTF!
     
  17. wile

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    Very good comment, the Boomers and their awful virtue signaling is a total joke when it comes to evaluating football talent.
     
  18. The Hock

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    I've been following the draft. Even purchased two magazines, one of which I flung away in disgust when I leafed through the pages, then couldn't find it for a few days. The whole semi charade is the same old thin soup it has been for a long time. But to give some perspective I checked a mag from a couple years ago and their number one QB, out of all the QB's who were eligible that year was....Dishone Kizer! Ha ha. And they had 3.7 career YPC Lenourd Fornette two spots ahead of Christian McAffrey.

    So many first rounders disappoint that nowadays many teams try to trade that to get more picks a little later.

    That little QB from Oklahoma might have a lot of football in him, but as an NFL WR, not an NFL QB. Not no how not now way. But the Caste hype machine has created this monster that must be fed. So some team will dutifully draft him much higher than he would normally go if he were not magical. And no one will have the guts to put him where he could succeed, killing it (possibly) from the slot. Instead he'll risk getting embarrassed and possibly killed as a QB to satisfy the PC rules that have taken over the NFL.
     
  19. La France Blanche

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    All the talking heads have made so much of an emotional investment in Murray as a QB and as the #1 overall pick, or something close to it, that they can't back down now even though all the facts and logic are against them.
     
  20. Extra Point

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    I went back and dug up this excellent post by Jimmy Chitwood in the 2018 thread. It discusses what the differences in 40 times really mean. It's applicable to every draft year.

    "please pardon this double post, but many of you don't frequent the track forum, and i thought this post relevant to the upcoming NFL Draft ...



    the above video (originally linked by RCSMAN) is highly illustrative and would serve as highly informative in "debates" regarding 40-yard dash times in football. if one watches closely, you will observe the VERY marginal separation between the winner, Lemaitre, and the third place finisher, Vicaut. their respective times over 60 meters "seem" large: 6.57 to 6.66, but in reality there is less than one full stride separating the two men.

    this is significant, as it illustrates how truly small the difference is between a "blazingly fast" time of, say, 4.4 and a comparatively "slow-footed" 4.5 over 40 yards. in actuality, the separation between those two times is, at most, one stride. and on a football field where running in a straight line rarely happens, the difference between times of a tenth of a second (or even two tenths of a second) is almost totally insignificant.

    the idea that a "speedster" who runs a 4.4 in shorts with no pads on is in a separate league from a "slug" who runs a 4.5 or 4.6 is, at best, misguided and, at worst, intentionally misleading." Jimmy Chitwood

    edit: I don't know why the video didn't come through. If you want to see it go to the 2018 NFL draft thread and go to page 9, February 10.
     
  21. wile

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    Since I call the Left a woman in how it thinks and acts I would not be surprised to find out all these white and jewish caste gimps are basically setting up these black players to fail and the idiots in the caste organizations as well. Maybe a few of these caste gimps are hanging on to their Jackie Robinson or Hank Aaron fantasy but tell me how long before they just end up like cynical spiteful womanish cranks intent on burning it all down?

    The Caste System runs on two things, one is political fantasy the other is payoff to blacks. So tell me how much satisfaction can a minimum wage white or jewish clown get for jabbing us white guys in the eye while they are being totally drubbed by black guys who hate them with a passion and make 100s of times the money those caste clowns make?
     
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    I’ve been saying for a long time hat reparations have been going on for years.....
    Welfare, professional sports, suburban kids hypnotized into liking rap music by the media, college sports recruiting.....ugghhh
     
  23. Red raider

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    I’m really starting to believe that Kyler Murray only measured at 5’10” because of his hair. I recently saw a picture of him next to Marquise Brown and Antonio Brown and Kyler was the shortest one in the picture. Antonio is basically 5’10” even and Marquise measured in below 5’9” 1/2 at the combine. However, in the picture his hair makes him taller than both of them, giving him about 2 inches added on. I really do think he’s about 5’9” or even a little lower. Doesn’t really matter to me, just kind of annoying how the media makes such a big deal about that measurement when it likely isn’t accurate.

    Was digging around and came across this. Pretty cool to see a white receiver with not too much hype around him getting a chance to come onto a big show and get seen by everyone. I wouldn’t have expected Cody Thompson to be on here but wow he is impressive. You can tell everyone in the room is more impressed at the end than they expected at the beginning. Pretty cool to see him get praise from Steve Smith as well, who was a pretty damn good player but always came across as douchy to me, nice to see him show some respect for Cody.
     
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  24. TomIron361

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    They just make such a big deal over his height because all they care about is that a black guy gets selected #1 overall in the draft. If it weren't for all this dumb hype, Bosa would be the first pick and they can't stand that idea. So the black guy will go #1 overall and go the way of RGIII in 2-3 years.
     
  25. wile

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    As for GBs draft, today at the Milwaukee paper some of their clickbait is "Packers should draft a 1st round QB" with Drew Lock's picture. I can't view the article but it's there on the sports page. I would wait for Clayton Thoresen late round 2 or 3 instead of taking a QB in the 1st.
     

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