2019 NFL Draft

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  1. Johnny Tightlips

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    I suspect it was a matter of timing. He is a junior and declared late and Lindy's was published before the NFL combine.

    I am nearly certain Crosby will be drafted. All sources point in that direction although where is a bit of a mystery.

    Probably at the top of my list for players with unlimited upside. His quickness is supernatural.
     
  4. Red raider

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    Most of what I’ve seen indicates that it won’t be a surprise to see Crosby get picked day 2. He can instantly bolster any pass rush and has incredible athleticism. I’m certain he could’ve made it to the NFL as a tight end also, he played it some in high school.
     
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    The great grandson of the late Chicago Outfit boss (Joe Accardo) is also not a fan of the’useful’ idiot “Colon Krapperd1ck”. ;)
     
  6. Shadowlight

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    I think I saw a reflection of the grim reaper. He always makes an appearance this time of year destroying my hopes and dreams even when my confidence level is running higher than usual.

    By God these 7 round mock drafts has the grim reaper's fingerprints all over them. I am a fool but at least I know it. Stupidly thinking things will turn out better but reality closes in and shuts the door with a loud bang every draft.

    Two weeks left before the grim reaper works his magic. The reaper has an undeserved fondness for smallish fast black WRs and a nasty disdain for white WRs who fit that profile.

    Where are the fantastic Wisconsin LBs? Doesn't having a Taysom Hill boost up talent seem appealing to teams as Trace McSorley and Nick Fitzgerald twist in the wind?

    And on and on it goes.

    And two members of my Troy Apke Club, regional combine warriors LB Cole Holcomb and S Chris Johnson don't even exist apart from meeting with teams whatever the hell that means. For a camp body?

    But for fools like me hope springs eternal (until the actual draft) so below is a well reasoned broadsheet on this year's regional combine players who they think have a shot of getting drafted which includes Cole Holcomb and Chris Johnson. From their standpoint both players should be easy mid to mid late round draft selections. I couldn't agree more. They point out that ten defensive players who took part in the regional combine last year were drafted. Too bad these horse ass mocks I have been looking at don't comply with this article's take.

    See below.

    https://locker-report.com/the-combine-report-2019-nfl-draft-rci-defensive-talents-where-they-fit
     
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    Imagine being such a lefty f@g that you would not want a potential star player on “your team” because he supports the elected president of the country. Bosa by all accounts has never committed an actual crime but to a lefty f@g, a thought crime is just as bad. In many cases worse! I’d wager this same turdburglar gladly cheered for actual violent criminals like Aldon Smith, Reuben Foster, Ray McDonald, Tramaine Brock or Ahmed Brooks. But hey, they are Democrats and “not racist” so they are ok.
     
  8. Bucky

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    Lol pretty much my exact thoughts.
     
  9. Truthteller

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    I was first hoping Nick Bosa would drop from #1 overall to #2 overall due to the fact that the Cardinals have historically been such an odious, anti-white franchise. Now, I'm thinking he might be better off dropping from #2 overall to #3 overall due to the fact that San Fransicko is such an expensive, unsanitary, unlivable liberal hellhole. Silver-spoon millennial clown Jed York, son of Denise DeBartalo, runs the team and likes to hang with the likes of Colin Kapernick and Richard Sherman. He is reportedly a leftist in the Gavin Newsome mold. Not sure a cucked owner like that would even want his team to draft a white defensive star that high over some over-hyped afflete, regardless of his politics.

    Now, I realize some will think that's crazy, thinking New York/New Jersey are similar, liberal spitholes as San Fransicko. Yes, when you look at some of the most prominent political figures from those states it seems outwardly true. But there are also millions of non-cucked whites (including a huge Italian population) that will heavily embrace brace Bosa as a player and love his politics. By the way, those are the whites stupid enough to pay the exorbitant prices to buy tickets and fill Met Life Stadium to watch mostly black teams. Most of the screeching animals busting on Bosa on various message boards are lucky if they can scrape together enough pennies to buy a rancid hamburger at their local, filthy fast-food ghetto feeding trough. So in the end, their opinions will mean nothing in the NY area. I'd love to see Bosa wearing the those ugly new uniforms of the New York Jets. I think that will be his best spot at the top of the draft, even if the team is switching to the 3-4. Nick Bosa and Henry Anderson together?

    Also, one of the most popular New York Rangers is a kid from Jersey named Tony De Angelo. He's a 2015 first round pick by Tampa Bay, who has struggled a bit in the NHL. When the Blueshirts acquired him from Arizona last year, several Jewish members (i.e. Larry Brooks) of the NY media reeled heavily against TD because he constantly ranted against/mocked Hillary Clinton on twitter a few years back and because he's been dubbed "racist" due to a couple vague incidents in junior hockey. The screaming Lonsmen haven't tarnished Tony DeAngelo a bit among fans. Even though he's a mediocre, puck-moving defenseman, fans love him due to his work-ethic and toughness -- will fight anyone, anywhere. Think New York fans wouldn't absolutely love a tough nosed, athletically gifted potential All-Pro in the NFL like Nick Bosa even more?

    Also, on the 49ers message board, the little Yiddy girls and their darker pals wonder how the blacks will accept Bosa in the locker room? By the way, not sure if it's such a good idea for the ebony "NFL brothers" to mess with the Bosa brothers. These aren't Kyle Korver/J.J. Reddick like beta-cucks. The Bosa's, as well as their cousin Jake Kumerow, undoubtedly have ties to some big time mafioso types who don't exactly love blacks as much as the DWF's and wouldn't mind "dealing with them" in the same way Tony DeAngelo dealt with Okposo*.

    * https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=hM5mY8jjuYo
     
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    Maxx Crosby’s brother tweeted that he believes the Bills will take his brother at pick 75 if he’s still available. Would be a great spot for him to be picked at in terms of the pay he’d make compared to where he was projected before the combine. I really don’t know who the Bills have on their front 7 besides Harrison Phillips, but it seems they liked him from their meeting 2 days ago.

    Note: it’ll be disappointing if Jaylon Ferguson gets picked ahead of him, Ferguson could barely physically do the agility drills and posted the worst numbers I have EVER seen. Comparable to how bad Penny Hart’s agility numbers were also.
    5.12 short shuttle and 8.08 3 cone for Ferguson... yikes.
     
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    I was going to write about elite athlete LB Kaden Elliss but his father (former NFL player Luther Ellis) is not white. Kaden looks very white and has a white mom. Disappointing as I was excited when I saw his numbers from his pro day. Oh well there’s plenty of guys in this draft class at LB!!

    On another note: I’m sure Elliss’ white appearance hurts him but having a non-white NFL father definitely helps him.
     
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    I’m digging through pro day numbers and Clarion DT Alec Heldreth would be the most athletic DT I think I’ve ever seen. I’ve never heard of the guy but his athletic ability is incredible. Here’s a link to a tweet with his testing numbers. He’s a DT athletic enough to play LB. I really like looking at these RAS scores because it shows how athletic every prospect is matched up with everyone who’s ever been to the combine at that position.

    https://twitter.com/mathbomb/status/1114329261085798400?s=21
     
  13. wile

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    The draft is too tedious for me, but let me say I do feel sorry for you gents who take the "draft analysts" seriously
     
  14. Red raider

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    I agree, most these “expert analysts” are clowns who have never played football. That’s why I tend to do my own analysis and learn from what all the other guys here have to say. The amount of knowledge possessed by the posters here has blown my mind! And yes the draft is very very tedious I spend countless hours year round preparing for the draft because I love it, I actually care about the draft more than I do about the NFL itself. There’s something about evaluating all these guys and the mysteriousness of the draft that I love. Same with high school recruiting, it’s cool to see guys carve out a path for themselves.
     
  15. Shadowlight

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    Reading the tea leaves I think many here, including me, are hoping the Cardinals dive head first into the caste pool and grab Kyler Murray and go all caste in their other draft picks. And then disappear off the face of the earth for the next few years. A horrible "football town" if you ask me I would prefer white stars to stay away from then anyway. Not a big market team. An out of sight out of mind type of team.

    My concern with Bosa is some ass wipe black defender taking his knee out. Historically black defenders have "targeted" white stars, especially white WRs so I am weary of some goon deliberately trying to debilitate Bosa because of his political views. Some of these black players are borderline or full blown criminals. For years their main mission was to crush the skulls or knees of white wide receivers who were embarrassing them.

    The NY area teams have been so caste saturated for years now it is hard to envision either the Jets or the Giants building their teams around white skill stars like a Bosa. But the metro area is certainly a media mecca so in that regard a plus in terms of publicity.

    At this point I would prefer he lands with the 49er's but I could live with the Jets providing they diversify their mainly caste team. I do find it hard to believe the Jets would pick him even if he was available.

    [Side note. These white players will be attending the draft: Nick Bosa, T. J. Hockenson, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock and Jonah Williams.]
     
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  16. Leonardfan

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    I don't think anyone here takes them seriously. They have zero credibility, are wrong a great majority of the time and never get called out for their propagandizing of players. I personally tuned them out a long time ago - they are just puppets for the caste system.
     
  17. Truthteller

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    Yep, sure looks that way. Fact that the Cards can't trade Abner for anything of value, less than one year after moving up in the first round to select him from UCLA, shows no one in the NFL has confidence in him. So why should Arizona keep him when they can acquire a "generational talent" like the 5'9", 160 pound (soaking wet) quarterback from Oklahoma?

    I agree, but there is some good news for Bosa, as it seems white offensive players have it much worse than the rare white defensive star. First off, Bosa will be going against a much higher percentage of white offensive lineman. I'd be more worried if he was a star left tackle, having to almost always go against low IQ black defensive lineman and linebackers. Also, it seems that black offensive lineman seem to be a bit brighter and are less thuggish than their "defensive brothers", so it's less likely he'll be cheap shoted?

    Also, let's not forget his mother, born Cheryl Kumerow, is the granddaughter of one of the toughest and meanest reputed mobster in American history. I'm sure quite a few of Cheryl's older relatives are still around and doing well, so I'd tend to believe your average thug would be very stupid if he tried to intentionally take out Joey or Nick Bosa's knee with a cheap shot, like Chad Scott (Steelers) did to end the career of Patrick Jefferies after his amazing last 5 weeks of the 1999 season** . Let me put it this way, if some clueless clown cheap shots one of the Bosa bothers and ends his career, they'll need a lot of luck going through life without having to look over their back 24/7.

    Shadowlight, I agree. My point with the hockey player, is I think Bosa's politics will be a total non-issue in NY. Not so sure that would be the case in the insanely liberal San Fransicko? Don't forget SF is where all this Kapernick stuff took hold and Richard Sherman is still there to cause trouble, if he's retarded enough to mess with a member of the Bosa/Kumerow family?

    As far as the Jets and Giants you are correct. Last Jets defender drafted fairly high to a have strong NFL career was probably Jeff Lageman, drafted in round 1, 1989. Last Giants defender drafted fairly high to have a strong NFL career was Jason Sehorn, drafted as a free safety in round 2, 1994. Last Jets white perennial Pro-Bowl defender? Probably Mark Gastineau? Last Giants white perennial Pro-Bowl defender? I don't know, perhaps a linebacker in the 1970'? Might even have to go back into the 1960's? That's a long time ago, but 49ers have been almost as bad.


    ** https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JeffPa00/gamelog/1999/
     
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    I'm not above rhetorical cheap shots at people like those caste gimps. But the draft is awful it is a prime example of human group think. Since I am a bit older and my fandom time goes back to the 1970s era Packers, the Era of Endless Futility I have seen the draft as an example of failing as a group and still succeeding just enough. Packer busts are some of the best busts. Yes I will use Tony Mandarich who was over drafted in 1989 as the example of moronic GMs using the media hype instead of some basic football common sense and a little investigation. So they took a second round guard from a power running team and made him a tackle, fail one. Fail two, I never played HS ball but I came to know a guy who played on a powerhouse program whose buddies were sprinkled thruout the Big 10 at the time Tony was and his use of "vitamins" was a joke amongst them.

    It was beyond embarrassing watch Tony play RT in 1990, and they paid big money to the GM and his scouts for the privilege of watching a fellow throw himself down on the ground to block Reggie White. Any way enough TM bashing he washed out supposedly from an illness, but lucky enough for him the head coach at Indy gave him a second shot and he got placed in the interior line where he belonged.

    Rant about over, I hate group think, but I will leave a WAG about NE and their draft stupidity, the brain trust BB and his sidekick use the caste draft to throw the hounds off their trail just enough. Other than that it makes no sense to me why they practice draft futility.
     
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    You fellas are better judges of talent than the caste gimps or those overpaid losers in the head offices of the NFL. My rule of thumb is that picks 1-10 are the hype zone and a smart team will trade down for more picks. To throw off the caste enforcers I would take many of these white players late rounds or UDFA make them special teams demons and work them into the lineup and let the world's greatest athletes work themselves out of the league or trade them around so the enforcers of discrimination against whites can still blather on and on about "upside."

    FTR of the last few years only a few players warrant being a top ten pick, Christian, Scam, Bosa, Julio Jones and Andrew, but I am not the most fully informed draftnik out here in fandom. But if any team wants to draft an upsider QB make sure your team is playing the GB Packers, they have an uncanny knack for making upsiders look like HOF material the first time they play that would be Dog Killer, Scam and Krappernick. If Sideshow somehow started against GB in his first year as starter I am afraid he would have thrown for 500yds, 6 TDs in a 40 point spread which would have ESPN call for an emergency meeting of the HoF committee to have him enshrined while stiffs like Starr and Unitas' busts be pushed aside
     
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    I don't think players like Bosa need to "hide" their politics but in general athletes in my opinion shouldn't amp it up to the point of distraction. I am sure locker rooms are somewhat mixed in political views although I tend to think the NBA is the most liberal overall and the NHL and maybe MLB are the most conservative overall, in general of course. Golfers are notoriously conservative.

    So I am not overly concerned about Bosa receiving a cheap shot but I agree with Truthteller that black DBs have been the worst culprits over the years.

    In fact studies have shown that on average OL and QBs are the brightest and the dumbest position by far are DBs, especially CBs. We shouldn't be surprised. Many of them play stupid. Many of them are just plain stupid. And as noted many times black DB play is at an all time low. Just plain horrific both in college and the NFL. But they are the "greatest athletes in the world" we are told on a nightly basis.

    I get very angry when I think of black DBs targeting white receivers. The problem in football is these DB punks normally don't face retaliation. In the NHL retaliation is a ritual although not quite as out of control as it used to be. A frustrated Tampa Bay last night almost started a donnybrook but like so many modern NHL fights it was curbed.

    Same goes for MLB too. You act like a thug you are going to get a 95 plus fastball under your chin. MLB still uses the "white code of honor" conduct manual. You want to act like an ass wipe then you will pay the price. Football players aren't subjected to that conduct manual hence the cheap shots. Although I am glad that both college football and the NFL have taken steps to discourage cheap shots. But they still happen, just not as frequently.

    As far as the NY football teams, you want grim just check out Truthteller's quick summary of their caste ways in a post above. They have obviously gone out of their way to avoid white skill players.
     
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    Good post Truthteller. As a born and raised New Yorker, I can confirm what you say is true. If the Jets were able to draft Bosa he would be beloved by the mostly blue collar, White fan base. To this day players like Shockey, Sehorn and Chrebet are amongst the most popular former players of the last few decades. The fans are just starved by the anti-White GMs who pump the roster full of blacks only.

    Most football fans in the tristate area are working class Whites (many Italian American) that are living all over the NYC suburbs, as well as in places like Staten Island and small enclaves in Brooklyn still. They are the children and grandchildren of “real New Yorkers” who built and lived in what many call the “greatest city in the world”. Do any Whites like these exist anymore within 100 miles of the Bay Area?

    Now the NYC is a sh1thole after 50+ years of relentless non-White immigration of moochers, criminals and grifters. That includes all the jewish shysters who bought up much of the real estate off of their ill gotten gains. These people could never build anything great on their own but will leach off Old NYC til it’s a hollowed out corpse. The last rotten layer is all the White millennials who’ve moved here in the last decade or two. They are far left outcasts from middle America who come to NY to pursue their hipster, bugman, urbanite dream. Rootless cosmopolitans like their kosher pals.
     
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    Thanks for your excellent work Red Raider...you may have missed my from earlier few months ago (Jan 14)? " "Small School Gems"" including DT Alec Heldreth...i see him on someones 53 man roster regardless if/or when he's Drafted. SAME with Chris Johnson who should have easily been at NFL Combine.
    http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/2019-nfl-draft.36740/page-8#post-736310

    Little liberal media dweebs may pick & pry ... Alpha Bosa just needs to stand his ground. Should be about respect. He should get plenty of respect in locker room. That's all that will matter.
     
  23. Truthteller

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    By the way, Freethinker, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. New York Mets fans are the only fans in America (this century) that actually put up a stink regarding the racial make up of their team and pushed back against a obvious anti-white GM. First Caste GM (1990's) was a dorky, failed minor league utility man Steve Phillips, who believed whites should only be allowed to play first base, third base and catcher. Ubber-Caste Shabbos Goy Phillips' career in baseball and TV, thankfully, came to a screeching halt when he was caught cheating on his Jewish wife with various obese women that worked for the Mets and ESPN. But things only got worse when the Mets hired Dominican GM Omar Minaya after the 2004 season, as he proceeded to build a "Latin Superpower" in New York (Los Mets), with rising star David Wright being the only white regular. Some fans (Cucks and Jewish fans?) had no problem with this and even enjoyed serenading Jose Reyes at games, but that anti-white acceptance certainly wasn't unanimous.

    Eventually, tons of fans railed about Minaya being anti-white/pro-Latin and put up a stink via radio and the Net. I think pitcher Kris Benson's model wife even joined in to point out the GM's anti-white tendencies. Large groups of ticket holders contacted the Mets and complained or canceled ticket packages. With Shea Stadium scheduled to be torn down and a new, expensive Park on the way, the Mets Jewish owners got the message and Minaya started signing and trading for more notable whites by 2009 (Jason Bay, Jeff Francouer) in hopes of smothing things over. After a long reign of mediocrity and terrible drafts, the Mets dumped Minaya and got much better.

    Again, New York fans are the only ones I know of that have done this in recent history?

    As far as the San Francisco area, perhaps some CF posters can fill us in? Is there a sizable group of normal white fans in Nor Cal, or have they mostly fled to other states? The San Fransisco Giants have won a lot with whiter teams and fans have embraced them. Thing is, not sure the Giants have any overtly political types for our Kosher friends and their pets to demonize? Heck, in the link ExtraPoint posted, a bunch of little pansies were complaining Bosa Sr., a former Dolphins first round pick, didn't exactly Tweet/Facebook nice things about St. Skittles (Trayvon Martin) several years back. Are they serious?
     
  24. La France Blanche

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    People overestimate the number of far-leftists because not only do they control virtually all mass media (Jews and far-leftists are basically interchangeable here), but also because very few of them have regular, honest jobs that need a lot of devotion and therefore they have a lot of free time to post anti-conservative and anti-white garbage on social media. The majority of people are sheep, who will follow and accept as "legitimate" any authority that can show that it is powerful and in control, whether it is "left" or "right." We complain about sheep, much of the time justifiably, but they are a double-edged sword. Sometimes they're going to cut the enemy.

    I like to use the Chick-fil-a litmus test (will people refuse to eat at Chick-fil-a because its CEO is against homosexual marriage) to separate the rabid far-leftists from regular people who just happen to vote Democrat. The vast majority of people pass the test and see no need for a boycott just because a CEO doesn't agree with 100% of their opinions. I know plenty of liberal relatives and acquaintances who happily eat there. And I can tell you it's very popular with the millennial generation.

    A small number of extremely loud, whiny, self-important SJWs will cry and moan at whichever team drafts Nick Bosa, but the vast majority of people, just like they accept Chick-fil-a regardless of its CEO's politics because the food is good, will cheer for Nick Bosa regardless of his politics because his play is good.
     
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    The rural areas of northern California are quite conservative, and in fact there's a movement for the northern third of California to secede from Sacramento and become the 51st state, with the name of Jefferson. Most NFL fans in that area consider the 49ers "their team," as the Raiders are a black hole in more ways than one, and are moving to Las Vegas anyway. I recall a video, perhaps posted on CF, of Niners fans burning Krappernick jerseys.

    Cool story about the Mets fans rebelling against their anti-white overlords.
     

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