2019 College Football Write Ups

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  1. Shadowlight

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    I want to thank Leonardfan for his leadership and his write ups. Also Red raider, Claimjumper and TwentyTwo for their outstanding write ups. It takes work and they aren't afraid of a little work.

    I managed a whopping 10 this year which is a lot for me considering I just started dipping my toes in this last season. I filled in for Jack Lambert to do Nebraska last year, a team I always wanted to do. Lambert by the way has been MIA but I hope to see him back when college basketball gets underway.

    I tried to pick teams that had at least a bright spot or two and believe it or not most Major 5 conference teams do have something potentially positive either down the road or in place. There are a few exceptions like Florida State.

    I was happy with my write ups but if I had to do one over it would be Tennessee. Pressed for time and completely flummoxed by the fact I couldn't find anything positive at all I mangled it a bit and left out a couple of bench players. It was also pointed out to me they have a promising young TE on the roster. Tennessee is one of those teams that frustrate me to no end. Such a lot of white talent in the Knoxville area yet they remain steadfastly caste.

    But all in all I enjoyed the process and I made it a point to read every college team write up. I give extra credit for those that tackled the lesser teams and many of them are caste ridden and often the white back ups aren't top caliber players either so not a whole lot to get excited about.

    Having seen the west coast write ups including Utah and the sharp increase in Poly players it makes me think they are the football stand ins for Latin players in baseball. You turn around and in the blink of an eye Poly players are all over the field.

    But again even if the upcoming NFL purge collapses our hopes I still think there is some hidden potential on some of these college rosters. Not anywhere near ideal but still something to give us some hope. Time will tell. The ball gets rolling for good tomorrow night.
     
  2. Leonardfan

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    Write ups are complete. I just want to say thank you to Claimjumper, TwentyTwo, RedRaider and Shadowlight for assisting with these write ups. I do wish more members volunteered but I cannot thank each of you enough. This is a pretty big undertaking and has become mostly discouraging when seeing how college football is trending.

    Thanks again.
     
  3. Leonardfan

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    CS,

    Thanks for rehashing your personal experiences with recruiting. I have found the experiences you have shared with your son's recruiting process very interesting. The big thing that sticks out to me is how are all of these black kids getting sent to these camps? How much do they cost? These black kids don't all end up at private schools like Cade Carney did. When I hear about your experience it really comes down to anti-white bias. It sounds like most of the items you listed are just more fluff for the caste system and its followers to cover their tails and give other excuses besides the obvious (the recruiter not recruiting your son at RB because he is white - which is 100% racial discrimination if your son was any other race.)

    Your input is always appreciated!
     
  4. FootballDad

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    Hey Leonardfan, as another parent who had to fight through the system, I can tell you how these kids manage to "afford" these camps. For us, it was several hundred dollars plus equipment, etc. For many of the black kids, the inner-city "youfs", there are loads of special programs and "scholarships" to take care of all of these evil white supremacist costs. And for the ones who "pay their own way" many have "single" moms who game the system while their "single" dads are making normal incomes. That's just what I saw at some of the camps that had lots of black kids. Now I know plenty of trailer-trash white folks that do the same thing, gal with a few kids living with her folks getting all of the benefits while her boyfriend (kids dad) also lives there and makes good money.

    But it's like anything football, blacks always are assumed to be better. My son always had to start from scratch at every new camp.
     
  5. Sean89

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    Thanks for all the effort gents. Write ups like this, and the college threads themselves, are invaluable for a Euro like me trying to follow white players in college football.
     
  6. Carolina Speed

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    Leonardfan,
    I was giving you this information from my prospective as a white family. I don't know how so many black kids got to these camps and what kind of information they have on how to get recruited. The obviously knew something I didn't. I do know there were a lot more black kids at these camps than white kids. When we went to UNC's top prospect camp, I remember looking over at the DB's. I didn't see one white kid and of course there was maybe two white RB's including my son. I was told a white kid with some talent should leave his rural area and get to either a privates school or a more metro area. It sure did seem like most of the big time recruits were from Charlotte and Raleigh, like Elijah Hood, Charlotte Catholic and even Braxton Berrios, Raleigh. Berrios won the Southeastern NUC combine, not an easy feat. That's how I think he got on the map and the fact that his HS team went deep into the HS playoffs. I guess that was another thing, being on a really good team. I guess they figure if your team is one of the best then you are, which is not always true. You can be a great player on a not so good team, however, my son's team won their conference every year and went to the second/third round of the largest division in NC HS football. In fact, they were 13-0 and lost their only game in the third round. Another camp he was invited to was the NC State camp. When we got there it was so obvious that the coaches were only looking at a hand full of players. He was in a group that was just running plays and I remember he was in this group that he was absolutely killing everyone in it. Then I looked on the other side of the field and all the NC State coaches were with a handful players, all black of course, were not even looking at my son. My son figured this out as I did at about the same time. When they took a break, I asked him if he knew what was going on and he said yeah and we left. It was demoralizing! One of the best RB's in the state of NC, pre-season All State is at
    your camp and you don't even know he exists!! We never went to any NC State camps as he was coming up and State had just hire a new staff, but that shouldn't have mattered, they knew enough to invite him. I also, want to say that it wasn't the recruiter at ECU that said, he wouldn't take a white RB, he said they, ECU, wouldn't recruit a white RB. So did UNC-Charlotte. I think the ECU recruiter wanted to offer, but the ECU RB's coach had to make the final decision. He was offered a preferred walk-on at ECU and at Clemson.
    About the cost of the camps. We only paid for the camps when he was 11,12, 13... and we went only to Clemson and Wake Forest initially. Once he kind of got on the map, we were invited to camp and if my memory serves me right, we either didn't pay anything or the cost was minimal, for the top prospect camps. I believe it was invitation only. Just had to pay expenses to get there.
    I really do think that if he wouldn't have got injured and rushed for like 4,000 yards, which was very possible, made the shrine bowl, which the coach had said he would make it, he would have started getting more offers, but it just wasn't meant to be.
    On last thing. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but you have to be really, really exceptional as a white skill player, to get any attention or to stand out, as we all know this here at CF. Most of the time that's not enough as we see every year great white players get thrown by the wayside never to be heard from.
     
  7. Carolina Speed

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    Right Footballdad. The cost of some camps can get expensive. We couldn't afford to go to many camps. That's why we initially could only go to Wake Forest and Clemson, but by going and standing out, you can build a relationship with the coaches. Before Dabo Swinney was the head coach, he was the coach working with my son at their camp when my son was like 11-12 and he stood out from the other black kids. Beating them in all of the drills and sprints, catching every pass, etc., but that's what a white kid has to do. He has to be above and beyond all the black kids! After that, I stayed in contact with Clemson/Swinney, sending in middle school film and all the way into HS.
    You're correct, black kids are always assumed to be better and the only way to prove this wrong is to beat them head to head.
    If you don't have the money, I would pick a couple of schools to target in your area and go to their camps and build that relationship early, like 10-11-12...and since all the recruiters are so focused on speed, get your son into a good track and field program with a good coach or at least a speed type training. If you do well and you continue and have a great HS career, then you'll get invited to other prospect camps. Generally, if they are really recruiting you, the cost is minimal or you would just pay expenses to get there.
    Again, not to burst anyone's bubble, but you have to REALLY stand out as a white player, beacuse and Footballdad can attest, the blacks are going to get the attention, if you don't beat them!!
     
  8. Leonardfan

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    CS,

    Sorry - my questions were meant to be rhetorical - not actually directed at you to answer - my apologies as I did not mean to put you on the spot.

    I find these camps to be yet another cog in the caste system. I feel most of them have risen up in the last decade or so to prominence and they essentially have become the preferred recruiting method. To me it's no coincidence that the rise in these camps goes hand in hand with the downward trends we are seeing with white starters. I feel these camps are probably just as shady as the AAU in basketball and just as corrupt. I wouldn't be surprised if boosters were involved to pay the way for these "underprivileged youfs".
     
  9. Carolina Speed

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    No worries my friend!
    There was just so many things we tried to do and it seemed that most of them didn't work no matter what he did. It was never enough? That's how it is right now. McCaffrey for instance did have an advantage with his father being an NFL player, but he had to be almost perfect in every drill, in every 40 time, every time a ball was thrown his way. He couldn't afford to drop one pass or have an average combine. I watched some of his NFL combine work out and he looked like a machine! That's how white skill players have to perform as you already know. Also, as I've mentioned, we were at the same southeastern high school combine as Braxton Berrios in Atlanta when he was the overall champion. That's again what white skill players have to do to get on the map!!
    Looking back, you may be correct in that the camps were shady. Like the NC State camp for instance, an all state RB is there and no ones paying any attention? BTW, I timed his 40's at all the camps myself and that was the one time I had him clocked under 4.5, 4.43, I believe. There was an air of something just wasn't right. They knew who they wanted and no one else mattered, especially if you were a white RB!
    I hope some of the guys here are married and having male children. I would like to see how it goes with some you in the future and if there's any way I can help. Please forgive me as I have forgotten some of what happened as I went through stage 4 throat cancer about three years ago and the combination chemo, radiation, and drugs they had me on I believe had an affect on my memory. However, bringing it back to the surface helps me to remember more as I discuss it.
    … and just want to say how thankful I am for all Don does and the rest of the posters here at CF. Ya'll do a tremendous job!
    CS
     
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  10. booth

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    CS, I believe your son was the best white running back I have ever seen in person and I have 3 friends that will say the same. You have every reason to be proud.
     
  11. wile

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    Not an expert nor a guy with any direct experience but from my memory of a friend's teammate on a small Illinois school back in the 80s I would say you need a friendly media at least back then. Some guy did a Blind Side type deal of semi adopting this black kid into basically an all white town for football. The kid was fast and IMO no doubt one of the best players in the state for small schools but you could tell he did not have it for the next level, your granny could arm tackle him. He got a full ride to Kansas and he ended up as a pitiful CB.

    But every week in the papers this kid's name was front and center how many yards gained or TDs this or that plus the heartwarming story of being semi-adopted. Any way in the state playoffs they came up against the eventual champions and that team had a fast strong safety who shadowed him well enough to take him off his game of getting the edge.
     
  12. Carolina Speed

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    Thank you Booth for the kind words. I believe he had around 320 yards/14 carries and 4 TD's in the first half of the game you attended. A second round state playoff game. I sure do miss it! Maybe I'll have some grandsons one day?
     

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