2018 Tennessee Vols

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  1. Deceptive Speed

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    In 2017 the Volunteers started 7 whites, 2018 sees a drop to 5 for HC Jeremy Pruitt and co.

    At QB Stanford graduate transfer Keller Chryst looks set to beat out mulatto Jarrett Guarantano who was terrible last season. (So) Will McBride is listed as the 3rd string QB to start the year. TE is in good hands in Jr. Eli Wolf (Ethan Wolf's brother now in the NFL) is set to have a break out year after being buried his career. OL will start off with a 3/5 white line, with some good depth behind them.

    On defense former 4-star LB (Sr) Dillon Bates has apparently not lived up to expectations, but I think he'll work his way into the starting line-up in his final collegiate season.
    Offense
    QB- Keller Chryst (Sr) 6'5 235
    TE- Eli Wolf (Jr) 6'4 236
    LG- Joey Cave (So) 6'4 312
    C- Ryan Johnson (So) 6'6 302
    RG- Riley Locklear (So) 6'4 293

    Defense
    LB- Dillon Bates (Sr) 6'3 229

    Ones to watch in 2018: QB Will McBride, TE Austin Pope, WR Richard Mize Jr, OT Nathan Niehaus, OG Lane Ollie, LB Landon Knoll
     
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  2. dolphins15

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    DS, I think you copy and pasted the wrong write up here. lol
     
  3. LucasBryant

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    Holcombe wasn't even close to being named a starter. He was pretty good back-up and a solid special teams player. Bama is the king of college football and likely another national title this year with Tua.

    Btw your title says Tennessee...all Bama fans vomit at the site of puke orange.
     
  4. Deceptive Speed

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    Oops sorry ill get to it after I get off work tonight.
     
  5. Deceptive Speed

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    Got it updated.
     
  6. Shadowlight

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    Thanks Deceptive.

    The Vols have long been an enigma to me. Tennessee has nearly a 75% white population yet their teams are routinely as black as the "blacker" SEC teams. Out of all the SEC teams they should have more white players but that is generally not the case.

    They always showcase gorgeous cheerleaders--good breeding down there I guess--and the bright orange colors and dedicated fan base make you want to get behind them yet nearly every year they never have enough white players in key spots to get excited about.

    This season looks no different. Perhaps if looking for crumbs WR Ricard Mize listed above and perhaps Dillon Bates on D might figure in a bit but like most all of the other SEC teams this is rough sledding. They do manage to play white TE's a lot which is fine but we know playing TE's are not the same as playing white WRs.
     
  7. Bucky

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    Yup their neighbor Kentucky has same problem with their coal black teams they continually pump out .

    At least they'll have Chryst this season at QB.
     
  8. Deceptive Speed

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    Honestly Ill admit to looking for crumbs in Mize, but TN have had some starting white wr's here in the past few years with Josh Smith starting last season. Figured he is their best chance of fielding one this season.
     
  9. Shadowlight

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    Yes from time to time a white WR pops up and Josh Smith caught 23 passes his sophomore season. He got into some trouble but then faded from view. When he did play they used him as a downfield blocker. Witness his stats from last year, 5 catches for 93 yards. His junior year was unmemorable too.

    My favorite Vol from the past decade is speedster WR Zach Rogers who came up big his senior season with a 32-491-7 stat line. While those stats don't jump out he made some big plays that season in 2012. I thought he had a shot at the NFL.

    But like you I hope Mize finds a way to play. I believe he was a dual threat QB in HS.

    Going even further back there was Craig Faulkner who had a nice career there capping it off with a senior season stat line of 40-680-6.

    So hope springs eternal when it comes to Tennessee despite the cold realities.
     
  10. sport historian

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    It's been said for decades (going back to the 1930's) that Tennessee high schools don't produce enough college football prospects. This means Tennessee has always recruited heavily out of state. When Tennessee was all white in the 1950's they had a lot of players from Pennsylvania coal mining country and New York and New Jersey street kids, a couple from Philadelphia on the 1951 National Championship team.

    Nowadays, and since the 1980's, they recruit nationally. going for the "blue-chips," who are mainly black.
     
  11. Bucky

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    Thanks for the insight, had no clue of their Blue Collared Northeastern pipeline in their earlier days.

    I suppose the Volunteer State has too many pale faces in their state to ever be deemed "fertile recruiting ground." Im not buying that there hasn't been enough in-state talent though.. If Northern schools like Iowa and Wisconsin(and Nebraska in their day and looks like Frost is on the come up)can recruit successfully in-state I gotta believe a Warm Southern State like Tennessee has enough talent in their backyard to do the same.

    247 sports has 138 players ranked in Ten. for 2019 class, the 3 above Big Ten teams I mentioned have about 70 players ranked between them.

    Again thanks for the history lesson and sorry for the rant !
     
  12. Shadowlight

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    Nashville is a huge city with a 75% white population. Knoxville is not as big but still nearly 200,000 people and it is 75% white too. I remember attending a Vols game a long time ago. A walk over the river. It was neat.

    Speedster Nathan Cottrell, class of 2015 now at Georgia Tech, comes out of Knoxville,( which to my knowledge places great emphasis on HS football since the Vols are in town), and to the best of my knowledge was not heavily pursued by the Vols.

    I tend to think that while some other states "might" have more to pick from, the mindset in Knoxville is to studiously avoid white skill players. When was the last time Tennessee fielded a white DB? Aren't there white DBs playing in Tennessee
    high schools? This pattern of ignoring white skill players has been very obvious to me and I don't care for the practice.

    At the end of the day I don't expect a radical rearrangement at Tennessee with respect to their racial outlay but given the parameters of their situation they should have more of a white presence ( see Bucky above) on the team. All I ever hoped for was modest gains and unfortunately they keep letting me down.
     
  13. Bucky

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    I know Harrison Smith, the best safety in The NFL, played his HS ball in The Volunteer State!
     
  14. TwentyTwo

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    Excellent post! Nice to see some of those names again... Yep Harrison Smith was from Knoxville. These days the Vols are mired in mediocrity.

    LB Dillon Bates was a high profile recruit from Florida; a shame he has had to deal w plenty of injuries burying him on the Depth Chart. He could be a difference maker.

    HS Class of 19' in the State of Tennessee has 3 High-profile pale faces on Defense...yet the Vols let them all go out-of-state to stronger College programs!
    ILB Jackson Hannah (6'-3" 225) from Nashville.... Committed to Nebraska
    DE William Norton (6'-6" 275) from Memphis ...Committed to Georgia
    ILB Kane Patterson (6'-2" 227) from Nashville....Committed to Ohio State

    DE Christian James from Memphis is Committed to Vanderbilt.

    Wonder where WR Noah Henderson plays at?? Arkansas State listed as the leader.
     
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    ILB Kane Patterson (6'-2" 227) from Nashville....Committed to Ohio State....then de-commit

    Now Patterson picks Clemson, another Championship caliber program.
     

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