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There was a website where you could participate in your own computerized draft. Anyone remember what it was?

edit: Found it - Fanspeak
 
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Darrell Williams just ran a 4.72. Backup to Guise at LSU.....
Mayock says he will run in he NFL....Nall has more college rushing yards, lower 40 and is bigger by a bit...


I’m watching the replays of it all now......No mention of Williams being an H back or fullback......More bs.......
 

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Darrell Williams just ran a 4.72. Backup to Guise at LSU.....
Mayock says he will run in he NFL....Nall has more college rushing yards, lower 40 and is bigger by a bit...


I’m watching the replays of it all now......No mention of Williams being an H back or fullback......More bs.......

I’m pretty sure Nall performed better than just about all the Pac12 RBs. He also put up numbers in an inept offense with no supporting cast. The other pac 12 RBs played in some offenses that put up a lot of numbers - Oregon, AZ st, Washington, USC.

They also talked up Flowers quite a bit even though he ran in the 4.8 range. No white player would he given that sort of treatment. It gets insulting to watch these ******** spew the same nonsense every year.
 

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I hate the combine.
It's useless. What good is it to have offensive linemen or a linebackers run the 40 yd dash?!
These scouts are pathetic. They still don't know how to evaluate players.
Look at the best QBs - Montana and Brady - they were both drafted when? After the 4th round?
How many undrafted free agents make it onto rosters?
These scouts need to 1/ look at tape and 2/ learn to evaluate desire, attitude, work ethic, and other intangibles.
 

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From that article: Nall clocked in with a 4.58-second 40-yard dash Friday at the NFL Combine and added a strong 6.95-second mark in the 3-cone drill.

A bit of a sleeper prospect, Nall was a candidate to boost his stock with a strong workout in Indianapolis. The initial results were discouraging as Nall was clocked with an unofficial 40-time north of 4.60 seconds, but the official time was a much more palatable 4.58 seconds. Considering Nall's status as a "big back" at 6-foot-2 and 234 pounds, his ability to run a sub-4.6 40 and place among the top running backs in an agility drill like the 3-cone is impressive. Nall's workout numbers support the production he had in college, so it's fair to claim that he has vaulted himself into draftable territory sometime during Day 3.

Given all that and given how good he was running the ball, with numerous long TD runs, something very few big backs are capable of, what would it take for Nall to "vault" into Day 1 draftable territory? He's the rare back who's more than capable of being a bellcow in the NFL, yet he still may not be drafted at all, and if he does you just know Maycuck and the rest will damn him with faint praise as a "hybrid," "tweener," or as a "great special teams player." A big back with speed and elusiveness, who tested among the top backs at the Combine -- in Caste-speak that translates into a late round pick or free agent status if the back is White.
 

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Here's a comparison of Nall's statistics to Barkley's, and they're almost identical when it comes to touchdowns and per carry average -- Barkley averaged 5.7 yards per carry and scored a touchdown on average once every 16 carries. Nall averaged 5.75 yards per carry and scored a touchdown an average of once every 16 carries. And Nall was on a bad team. One is touted as the greatest running back in ten years who should be the first pick of the draft, the other is dismissed as a possible late draft pick who is best suited to be a fullback or H-back.
 

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Here's a comparison of Nall's statistics to Barkley's, and they're almost identical when it comes to touchdowns and per carry average -- Barkley averaged 5.7 yards per carry and scored a touchdown on average once every 16 carries. Nall averaged 5.75 yards per carry and scored a touchdown an average of once every 16 carries. And Nall was on a bad team. One is touted as the greatest running back in ten years who should be the first pick of the draft, the other is dismissed as a possible late draft pick who is best suited to be a fullback or H-back.


Nall can be a Peyton Hillis/Mike Alstott type running back with even more upside in my opinion if a team has the guts to play the kid from day one. Maybe Indy or Greenbay will take a chance on him? It would be kind of cool if he went to the Panthers as they need a power running back to replace J. Stewart but I would rather have more white running backs on different teams to make us have more games to enjoy watching! Either way good luck to R.Nall. He deserves better treatment for sure.
 

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I just watched a repeat of the RBs going through their drills. Don't know if it was edited or not for time the second time around, but what I observed was the complete marginalization of Ryan Nall. At one point or another during the drills Mike Mayock gave his spiel on what seemed to be every single tailback there, but not Nall. As Leonardfan wrote, the NFL Network went to commercial break just as Nall was about to run his first 40, after every back from A to M went before him, replete with commentary.

During one of the drills, my hopes were momentarily raised when LaDainian Tomlinson said "I really like this guy." Mayock responded, "Nall?" Tomlinson said, "Penny," the next runner alphabetically after Nall.

Nall is tall and lean, fast for his size and elusive. In my eyes he's the best big White tailback prospect since Rob Konrad, who was totally screwed over by the NFL, mainly courtesy of Jimmy Johnson and the Dolphins, who drafted him in the second round, absurdly, as a blocking fullback.

When the RBs were shown grouped together before drills, Nall's height stood out. Height doesn't necessarily translate into anything, but there's no doubt Nall is a size/measurables/performance standout. NFL Network and their on-air stooges Eisen and Mayock followed the tactic of all but pretending Nall wasn't there. The marginalization routine is a time-honored one used with non-mainstream political activists going back a long, long time. Obviously it also works when it comes to the long-entrenched Caste System. Before about 1971 or '72, Nall would have been a cinch first round draft pick.

If the QB position was still 99% White, and there was but one black QB at the Combine, one who stood out, would it have been handled differently? The answer is so obvious as to make it ridiculous to even pose the question. The only issue is whether enough White sports fans are finally catching on or not to the anti-White racket that's been hidden in plain sight for so long now.
 
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Great summary Don - much better than my post by post rants :)

I caught the Mayock/Tomlinson back and forth as well. Mayock seemed very surprised when he thought that Tomlinson was referring to Nall during the drill. From what I heard nothing more than a sentence was brought up about Nall if anything at all when it was his time to participate in a drill. It kind of tells me Mayock totally ignored Nall, didn't watch any tape on him - he only mentioned how he ran for 174 yards vs Oregon and that is how he became an option at RB. It was outright neglect of Nall by Mayock and for any of us who are aware of the caste system it was glaringly obvious to pick up on.

Hopefully some team appreciates Nall's size/speed/2nd gear in the open field. I would compare him to Derrick Henry who is another tall back who put up pretty similar numbers to Nall. Henry however was a second round pick and has predictably become a media darling.

A more telling thing is seeing these black RBs who go to big name school running 4.60 - 4.83 yet they were never told they were too slow to play. A white RB with a time in that range would pretty much be slotted as a FB or moved to LB if they were recruited at all. The good thing about the combine is it goes to show that race does play a very big factor when it comes to football rather than the supposed physical measurables.

Dimitri Flowers Oklahoma - 4.83
Kamryn Pettway Auburn - 4.74
Darrel Williams LSU - 4.72
Demario Richard Az St - 4.70
Chris Warren Texas - 4.69
Lavon Coleman Washington - 4.65
Justin Crawford WVU - 4.64
Kyle Hicks TCU - 4.63
Jarvion Franklin Western Michigan - 4.63
Mark Walton Miami - 4.60
 
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A Washington St WR ran a 4.80 and 4.84 40 - Mayock didn't criticize him - stating that he can't play at the next level. He just said how Leach kicked him off the team and wouldn't allow him to transfer back to Florida.
 
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Barrett looks terrible throwing after Allen. Jackson doesn't look great throwing either.
 

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"Ignore the watch" according to Daniel Jeremiah on a Free Shoes U WR who ran a 4.69
 

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Jake Wieneke with a nice catch on a deep ball.....
Mayock responds with a “Jackrabbit”......props
 

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A couple blazing times as the tight ends are running now -- Mike Giesicki ran a 4.55 and Mark Andrews ran 4.59! Giesicki also had a 41 1/2 vertical.
 
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WR Dylan Cantrell ran an unofficial 4.59, very good for his size. I can't find a time for Berrios yet. . .
 

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I don't think Berrios did anything. I saw him in sweats and never saw him do anything. Wonder if he got hurt.

What ticked me off was watching Gesicki run. Greg Olsen noted that he has really long strides after he ran 4.55. And then Mayock comes in and says yeah he does. But rarely in a game do you get to open up and use those long strides it's more about stop and start and short area bursts. Which yes football is but it's like they can't give a white guy credit. Also if the long strides don't matter then why do drool over when the black guys run the 40's? Why don't they make the shuttles and 3 cones the main portion of the combine coverage? We all know the answer to that.
 

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I don't think Berrios ran the 40.

Fantastic 40 times for the TEs in the 40.

Just watched Mayfield get interviewed - really enjoy his confidence especially as the idiotic analysts try to poke holes in his game.
 

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The only thing I can find on Berrios so far is the bench press, he did just 11 of them. He measured in at just 5'8 1/2", which for a White player is a huge obstacle to overcome. He'll need to run a blazing time at his pro day to be drafted.

Mayock also said he thought Gesicki would run in the 4.7s. No wonder he gets along with Rich Eisen so well now, there used to be a noticeable amount of friction between them back when Mayock was semi-fair toward White players.
 

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Outside of his 40 time it looks like Calvin Ridley put up pretty mediocre numbers in the Vertical Jump and Broad Jump. Cantrell ran a 4.59 40 with a 130 inch broad jump, 38.5 inch vertical - those two drills are supposed to measure explosion. Cantrell is bigger and stronger but is treated as a draft afterthought while Ridley is being touted as the 1st WR to be drafted.
 

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I don't think Berrios did anything. I saw him in sweats and never saw him do anything. Wonder if he got hurt.

What ticked me off was watching Gesicki run. Greg Olsen noted that he has really long strides after he ran 4.55. And then Mayock comes in and says yeah he does. But rarely in a game do you get to open up and use those long strides it's more about stop and start and short area bursts. Which yes football is but it's like they can't give a white guy credit. Also if the long strides don't matter then why do drool over when the black guys run the 40's? Why don't they make the shuttles and 3 cones the main portion of the combine coverage? We all know the answer to that.

They never make those types of points when the tall lanky black WRs run. They just refer to them as great red zone targets.
 
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