2018 New England Patriots

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  1. Thrashen

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    Now that free agency and the draft have concluded, I wanted to start a thread for the upcoming season. Below are the white players currently on the roster. Their defense and OL have never been so coal black, however, their WR and TE corps have never featured so many white athletes. There are currently 27 whites in total on the roster...

    QB - Brady, Hoyer, Etling

    RB/FB - Burkhead, Develin

    TE - Gronkowski, J. Hollister, Izzo, Niklas, Wimann

    WR - Edelman, Hogan, Berrios, McCarron, C. Hollister

    OL - Andrews, Bowanko, Croston, Ferentz, Jelks, Karras, Thuney, Tobin

    DE - None

    DT - None

    LB - None

    S - Ebner

    CB - None

    P/K/LS - Allen, Gostkowski, Cardona
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    Just a single White defensive player, and one who's a WSTD at that, at this time of year with the expanded rosters is pathetic, possibly even unprecedented. That and the creeping "sumo-ness" of the o-line portends a team that may well be nearing the end of its run as a Caste-buster on offense, what with the age of Brady and Edelman (and Belichick), Gronk's apparent unhappiness, and Burkhead's role possibly becoming minor after they drafted a running back in the first round.

    Hopefully McCarron and Berrios are incorporated in the offense to some degree this season along with J. Hollister and maybe Izzo at TE, and Burkhead carves out an important role. But I just don't have a good feeling about the Patriots right now, the feeling that the end of an era is near is strong. On the other hand, appreciate it all the more while it's still here.
     
  3. Shadowlight

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    No question the Patriots defensive situation is horrendous on two levels. Caste riddled and below average overall.

    It cost them this past Super Bowl.

    Not to be too heavy handed but this past run of two Super Bowls and a runner up has been MAINLY fueled by Brady and his white receivers. They are the components that have lifted them to great heights. Take these receivers and their relationship with Brady out of the equation and you are looking at zero Super Bowl rings.

    Edelman, Amendola, Gronkowski and Hogan (the past two seasons) make up the core of receivers who have seamlessly meshed with Brady and the results have been breathtaking. Brady has played with star black WRs in the past but he has never connected as well as he has done with this group.

    So the Patriots lose Amendola and they quickly replace him with Braxton Berrios. Berrios pretty much fills the exact role as a punt returner and slot WR. Mel Kiper said last night and this morning the plan is to plug Berrios right in. He is very smart so he will adapt very quickly. To say he is the type of player Brady wants to work with is an understatement.

    This leaves McCarron in a more difficult spot since they recently added a kick returner but we should not rule out McCarron still making the squad as a back up. Who knows?

    As for RB Burkhead I expect his role to stay the same and IF he remains healthy he should get a lot of touches. The Pats don't like to "overuse" RBs so the kid they drafted will play but I don't see the Patriots changing their RB formula.

    While the Patriots defensive approach is disappointing they at least have enough wherewithal to stock the "glamour" WR position with white stars. Nice to see a team understand what type of offensive players are needed to win in the NFL.
     
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  4. Thrashen

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    I agree that the situation on defense is amongst the darkest I’ve ever seen. However, the token 2-3 whites (Ebner, Ninkovich, Long, McClellin, and Marsh over the past few years) that are typically employed in Belichick’s defense seem to have been replaced by more white TE’s. Since being drafted in 2010, Gronk has generally been paired with non-white TE’s. Hernandez, Fells, Wright, Hoomanawanui, DJ Williams, Michael Williams, Bennett, and Allen. Now, there are 5 white TE’s on the roster, which is s welcome change.

    Of the 5 white WR’s in the roster, it seems like McCarron and C. Hollister are the most likely to be cut and placed on the PS. I could see the newly-acquired black WR’s (Matthews and Patterson) not planning out as planned.

    With the OL, anything could happen. Thuney and Andrews are likely to keep their starting jobs. Shaq Mason, LaAdrian Waddle, Antonio Garcia, Isiah Wynn, and Trent Brown are surely all in contention to start. Injuries or poor practice performances by any and all of these players would be a very positive development for our cause! I could see Matt Tobin legitimately competing for an OT spot and Ted Karras for an OG spot.
     
  5. Leonardfan

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    I went back and watched Etling highlights. He has some ability and tools to work with. I’ll be curious to see if he pans out. Cassell never started a game in college and developed into a mid-tier starter. The Pats also developed Hoyer into a serviceable qb. Overall the Pats draft was a predictable dud though. Berrios took lessened the disappointment slightly.
     
  6. Extra Point

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    The Patriots desperately need help at linebacker. They had available to them a player who would have helped them in that regard, Josey Jewell, the Big Ten's best linebacker.

    He was available at 105 in the 4th round. Instead the Patriots traded the pick away and Jewell was picked by the Broncos 1 pick later. They made a mistake in passing on Jewell.
     
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  7. Chad

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    I'm moving on to another team. Any suggestions?
     
  8. Chad

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    Buffalo had a nice draft.
     
  9. La France Blanche

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    The Patriots are a sentimental Caste Football favorite and had a great run, but it's coming to an end (referring to both their Super Bowl appearances and their whiteness. Hmm, funny how those two seem to go together). For me, at least, the torch has been passed on to the Vikings. They were the whitest team in the league last year, and with a reasonably White-friendly draft, they should remain that way, barring any egregiously dumb preseason moves. With "Captain" Kirk Cousins at the helm they have a good chance to go deep in the playoffs.
     
  10. Thrashen

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    Given that NE currently has Tom "The GOAT" Brady at QB, five white WR's (Edelman and Hogan are surefire starters and Berrios/Hollister/McCarron are backups), five white TE's (including the best in NFL history, Gronkowski), and a white RB (Burkhead) who could see significant playing time, I'm not ready to give up on the Patriots just yet. From years of closely following the team, I take solace in the fact that the roster always seems to look quite bleak and then, suddenly, as the season begins, they're the sale old Caste-busting team they've been for 10+ years. Admittedly, there defense is as black as it's ever been. However, there were seasons in the mid-2000's where OLB Mike Vrabel was the only white defender (DT Mike Wright was injured) on the roster. Is the racial makeup of the 2018 defensive roster really so different than it's been over the past 10 years? Naturally, I hope they find a way to add some white talent before/during training camp, but I'm not watching the Pats for their defense.

    WR Braxton Berrios was a very interesting draft pick and I believe the squad has big plans for the former Miami Hurricane. The Caste Media calls him a Welker/Edelman/Amendola clone, but his 4.44 40-yard dash was much faster than Wes (4.65), Julian (4.52), and Danny (4.58). His 36" vertical leap was higher than Wes and Danny and the same as Edelman's. His blistering 3-cone drill and 20-yard split were almost identical to those of Edelman.

    Aside from being a white receiver and a member of the Patriot offense, another reason for him to be despised by the Caste Media are his looks. Despite having a Spanish surname (his father is a white Puerto Riccan), Berrios fits the classic Nordic-European archetype. As with the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Julian Edelman and his (alleged) Jewish heritage, it'll be impossible to sell Berrios as a Latino/Hispanic...

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    I think he makes the roster as a PR and depending upon his development, possibly takes over Amendola's spot as the 2nd slot WR. Barring injury, I predict that NE keeps 7 WR's and Berrios will be one of them.
     
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