2017 NFL week 12

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I'm hoping for anybody (except the Raiders of course) in the AFC to beat the Stealers in the playoffs. What a despicable organization and Tomlin is very thug-like as a coach. He's a disgrace.
 

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Dang. Hundley had good statistics and the Packers lost. The opposite of what I wanted to happen.

True. He had 3 long TD passes due to blown coverages, or catch and run with no tackling. Otherwise, he only had 97 yards. Plus he had the benefit of 3 Steeler turnovers, and still lost. So, his statistics lie, but I’m sure nobody will point it out.
 

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I watched the last part of the game at a bar. Did I hear right? Uncle Cris compared Hundley to Rogers? Said that Hundley's play surpassed or Rogers like? If so, it comfirms Uncle Cris is an Uber casteophile.
 

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I watched the last part of the game at a bar. Did I hear right? Uncle Cris compared Hundley to Rogers? Said that Hundley's play surpassed or Rogers like? If so, it comfirms Uncle Cris is an Uber casteophile.

I heard that too. These cheerleaders for blacks sound ridiculous.
 

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I watched the last part of the game at a bar. Did I hear right? Uncle Cris compared Hundley to Rogers? Said that Hundley's play surpassed or Rogers like? If so, it comfirms Uncle Cris is an Uber casteophile.

Crissie was at his black worshiping best (or worst) all game. As icsept pointed out, Hundley's stats were due to blown coverages by Pitt d-backs and a fluke dump-off pass to the RB which ended up going for 60 yards. And Crissie had barely a word of praise for Blake Martinez, who had the best defensive game of the season so far by anyone.
 

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Man, if I ever saw uncle cris in an airport. I would verbally unleash hell on that sad sack.
 

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Crissie was at his black worshiping best (or worst) all game. As icsept pointed out, Hundley's stats were due to blown coverages by Pitt d-backs and a fluke dump-off pass to the RB which ended up going for 60 yards. And Crissie had barely a word of praise for Blake Martinez, who had the best defensive game of the season so far by anyone.

Pro Football Focus tells me that 183 of Hundley's 245 yards came after the catch and his two TDs that weren't a screen pass were "one against a busted coverage and one into a huge window". He just isn't that good and wasn't that good tonight (hence the loss).
 

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I don't mind how McCaffrey is being used. If they used him to "pound the rock" as they say, his chances of injury increase plus a guy gets worn down that way. You don't use a swiss army knife to dig postholes. Okay kind of weak analogy (metaphor?) but in today's spread it around offensive mindset his number of touches seems reasonable to me. Also seems he's learning how to make follow-up defenders miss in the NFL. Some games I read his stat line and think hmmm but when I see the actual plays yeah he's doing some good things and delivering on the field with the promise of more to come.


He had one carry for 2 yards in the second half.......That’s horseshit.
 
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This is your receiver. Jordy Nelson finishes with 3 receptions for 11 yards. This is your receiver with a black quarterback. And this was Hundley's "good" game (which will be given saturation coverage by the enemedia, with all of his many terrible games forgotten).

I think it's more unconscious action than conscious racism on Hundley's part. He's been told all his life that blacks are the only good receivers, so his brain simply doesn't see the White receiver.
 

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This is your receiver. Jordy Nelson finishes with 3 receptions for 11 yards. This is your receiver with a black quarterback. And this was Hundley's "good" game (which will be given saturation coverage by the enemedia, with all of his many terrible games forgotten).

I think it's more unconscious action than conscious racism on Hundley's part. He's been told all his life that blacks are the only good receivers, so his brain simply doesn't see the White receiver.
Can you imagine if Julio Jones rightly so, complained about a 2nd stringer QB not getting him the ball over 4 or 5 games? The vile media would be on his side and ask the same question? Will Jordy do the same? Of course not. Will the media do the same? Of course not. Uncle cris just said hours ago, its a changing of the guard. Jordy out, some affelet in. This is what White athletes are up against. And it does not help when all we here from the marquee or once marquee White athletes are crickets.
 

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McCaffrey is 205 pounds plus he's only 21 so he could put on a few more pounds if necessary. Tiki Barber was the exact same weight and was given 357 carries one season. Warrick Dunn was significantly smaller at 187 pounds and his first year in the league had 224 rushing attempts. Jamal Charles is 199 pounds and was give over 200 carries a year multiple times. McCaffrey is on pace this year for a little over 100 carries, less than half. This is ridiculous.
 

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How's Chris Conte doing this year? His replacement on the Bears must be terrible...like the rest of their D?
 
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This is your receiver. Jordy Nelson finishes with 3 receptions for 11 yards. This is your receiver with a black quarterback. And this was Hundley's "good" game (which will be given saturation coverage by the enemedia, with all of his many terrible games forgotten).

I think it's more unconscious action than conscious racism on Hundley's part. He's been told all his life that blacks are the only good receivers, so his brain simply doesn't see the White receiver.
It pisses me off! All Adams had to do is have one good game and it's the changing of the guard. Forget that he has stunk it up despite being overtargeted by Rogers the past few years.
 

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I'm quite happy with Christian's development this season and think he'll get more carries next year as Stewart nears the end of his career. But as I've mentioned, he's likely never going to be a bellcow running back at his size and when he is so effective as a receiver. I think that's the proper use for him -- 800 to 1,000 yards rushing and 800 to 1,000 yards receiving and he'll be a superstar in the NFL.
He has superstar written all over him but, so did some other RB's.
It seems that when the Panthers need a tough 2-3 yards on 3rd down, which is quite often, they stay with Stewart, thinking he's the big tough back that's going to get the first down. ...and CM seems to be hardly ever used in the second half. How is he going to get more carries/touches if this pattern persists? I think if they don't change their thinking, change the offensive schemes, it's going to be more of the same. They will always think this way, thus replacing CM as a starting RB. We'll start the big back and bring CM in when we need him as a decoy. The thinking is CM is not big and tough enough to get that 2-3 yards when it should be easier to lineup a FB in front of CM and let him hit a crease and or use him in a sweep, pass, etc., something other than lining up Stewart or another big black RB behind the FB and everyone including my daughters knows what's coming! Yes, it's possible as Stewart continues to decline CM will get more carries. I hope so, though I'm not asking for 25-30, I'm talking about a consistent 15-18. One carry for 2 yards in the second half and the Panthers almost blew the game. Thank goodness for Kuechley!
It seems there's always an excuse, he's big but not fast,, no vertical, no side to side, no swivel hips, no upside, now he's not big enough?
Yes his development has been decent, but maybe a little more consistency?
I would be pleased with 800-1,000 yards rushing too, but he's going to have to get 200-250 carries to get to that mark. That's going to require 14-15 attempts per game! Again, I hope I'm wrong, but CM's career is going eerily similar to some other white RB's who after a decent first year, have been forgotten, although those backs were not the number 8 overall pick.
Yes, he's just 21 and will probably get a little bigger and stronger too...
I get it, but we'll see?
 

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He has superstar written all over him but, so did some other RB's.
It seems that when the Panthers need a tough 2-3 yards on 3rd down, which is quite often, they stay with Stewart, thinking he's the big tough back that's going to get the first down. ...and CM seems to be hardly ever used in the second half. How is he going to get more carries/touches if this pattern persists? I think if they don't change their thinking, change the offensive schemes, it's going to be more of the same. They will always think this way, thus replacing CM as a starting RB. We'll start the big back and bring CM in when we need him as a decoy. The thinking is CM is not big and tough enough to get that 2-3 yards when it should be easier to lineup a FB in front of CM and let him hit a crease and or use him in a sweep, pass, etc., something other than lining up Stewart or another big black RB behind the FB and everyone including my daughters knows what's coming! Yes, it's possible as Stewart continues to decline CM will get more carries. I hope so, though I'm not asking for 25-30, I'm talking about a consistent 15-18. One carry for 2 yards in the second half and the Panthers almost blew the game. Thank goodness for Kuechley!
It seems there's always an excuse, he's big but not fast,, no vertical, no side to side, no swivel hips, no upside, now he's not big enough?
Yes his development has been decent, but maybe a little more consistency?
I would be pleased with 800-1,000 yards rushing too, but he's going to have to get 200-250 carries to get to that mark. That's going to require 14-15 attempts per game! Again, I hope I'm wrong, but CM's career is going eerily similar to some other white RB's who after a decent first year, have been forgotten, although those backs were not the number 8 overall pick.
Yes, he's just 21 and will probably get a little bigger and stronger too...
I get it, but we'll see?
Currently, there's only two RB's with over 200 carries through 11 games. That's 23 and 18.5 att/game, so asking for over 15 carries a game for CM may always be a stretch?
 

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I watched 3 quarters of last night's game, never seen a pass rush for GB, as far as I know Ben could hang his uniform back up in the locker with no need to wash it.
 

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That hardly makes him an "SJW activist" as some posters have called him. Whether we like it or not, most White Americans bought the media narrative on Charlottesville. No more attacks on White athletes, I can't believe I have to keep repeating that on the only pro-White sports site in existence. Attack the problems and methods that have led so many Whites astray, not individual White athletes who have absorbed the indoctrination.
As I argued on an earlier thread, Smith is a product of his information sources which seem to be straight MSM. He's ignorant, not an activist. Nevertheless, ever since he made his lame-brained statements, his play has gone straight into the toilet. Hence the "Trump curse" comments. Whether it's Reid's play calling or something else, Smith has been terrible, especially the last two weeks. He's been playing remarkably like a black quarterback, all dink-n-dunk, can't find second or third receivers, poor accuracy against man coverage downfield, etc.

Fat Bastard is sticking with Alex for now despite the loud calls for Mahomes. Not sure what the best thing for us would be, I expect Mahomes to stink up the joint, might be nice to get rid of him sooner rather than later.
 

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Currently, there's only two RB's with over 200 carries through 11 games. That's 23 and 18.5 att/game, so asking for over 15 carries a game for CM may always be a stretch?
A lot of teams are just doing rb by committee...like the Eagles. At least CM is being used in other ways too.
 

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McCaffrey has already shown
He has superstar written all over him but, so did some other RB's.
It seems that when the Panthers need a tough 2-3 yards on 3rd down, which is quite often, they stay with Stewart, thinking he's the big tough back that's going to get the first down. ...and CM seems to be hardly ever used in the second half. How is he going to get more carries/touches if this pattern persists? I think if they don't change their thinking, change the offensive schemes, it's going to be more of the same. They will always think this way, thus replacing CM as a starting RB. We'll start the big back and bring CM in when we need him as a decoy. The thinking is CM is not big and tough enough to get that 2-3 yards when it should be easier to lineup a FB in front of CM and let him hit a crease and or use him in a sweep, pass, etc., something other than lining up Stewart or another big black RB behind the FB and everyone including my daughters knows what's coming! Yes, it's possible as Stewart continues to decline CM will get more carries. I hope so, though I'm not asking for 25-30, I'm talking about a consistent 15-18. One carry for 2 yards in the second half and the Panthers almost blew the game. Thank goodness for Kuechley!
It seems there's always an excuse, he's big but not fast,, no vertical, no side to side, no swivel hips, no upside, now he's not big enough?
Yes his development has been decent, but maybe a little more consistency?
I would be pleased with 800-1,000 yards rushing too, but he's going to have to get 200-250 carries to get to that mark. That's going to require 14-15 attempts per game! Again, I hope I'm wrong, but CM's career is going eerily similar to some other white RB's who after a decent first year, have been forgotten, although those backs were not the number 8 overall pick.
Yes, he's just 21 and will probably get a little bigger and stronger too...
I get it, but we'll see?

McCaffrey has already shown he's worthy of the number 8 pick but anti-white prejudices die hard. I have a hard time believing that a black player drafted at number 8 would be so underutilized.
 

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As I argued on an earlier thread, Smith is a product of his information sources which seem to be straight MSM. He's ignorant, not an activist. Nevertheless, ever since he made his lame-brained statements, his play has gone straight into the toilet. Hence the "Trump curse" comments. Whether it's Reid's play calling or something else, Smith has been terrible, especially the last two weeks. He's been playing remarkably like a black quarterback, all dink-n-dunk, can't find second or third receivers, poor accuracy against man coverage downfield, etc.

Fat Bastard is sticking with Alex for now despite the loud calls for Mahomes. Not sure what the best thing for us would be, I expect Mahomes to stink up the joint, might be nice to get rid of him sooner rather than later.

The startling decline of the Chiefs from the way they started the season is one of the stranger things to occur in recent years. They looked unstoppable on offense and the defense was pretty good too, but now? Maybe the "locker room" wants Mahomes, so the effort on offense and defense is no longer there.
 

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Currently, there's only two RB's with over 200 carries through 11 games. That's 23 and 18.5 att/game, so asking for over 15 carries a game for CM may always be a stretch?

Christian has averaged 9 carries the past 3 games. If that went up to 13, he'd be at close to 200 carries over the course of a season. At an average rush of 4.0 that would be 800 yards, 1,000 if he averaged 5.0 (and he's at 5.6 for those past 3 games).

He's looking better as a runner, the Panthers are winning and are doing so with CM playing a key role. If they expand his running role next year he should be fine, as he's already established as a top receiving back. If they don't, then I'll agree that he's being underused as a runner, but I would be happy with 200 to 250 carries for him along with 70 to 90 receptions, in concert with a determined effort to improve the run blocking of the o-line.
 

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Man, if I ever saw uncle cris in an airport. I would verbally unleash hell on that sad sack.

Last night, after a shot of an injured JuJu Smith-Schuster standing on the sideline was shown, Collinsworth mentioned how much he loves the NFL's new rules regarding "celebrations." He uttered something like: "These touchdown celebrations are just these young people expressing how happy they are and it's a wonderful thing. I love really love these celebrations!" The way he said it came off as incredibly fake, almost as if the NFL told him to mention these imbecilic "group festivities" that seem to become more annoying, juvenile, and scripted each week. Chrissy is a Caste System Apostle in every conceivable way.

Totally different topic....there's no denying that Chiefs TE, Travis Kelce, is a major wigger. Diamond earrings, talking in Ebonics, gyrating like a ghetto hoodrat after scoring every TD, cheap-shots against opposing players, kneeling during the national anthem, ejections for low impulse control, and bone-headed personal foul penalties galore. Yesterday, he did something else that in 20+ years of following the NFL, I've ONLY seen black players do...throw a tantrum and give up on a play. Despite how much he's done to dismantle the Caste System with his stellar play, this guy can't help but act like a piece of trash.

Video:
https://twitter.com/NFLFilmStudy/status/934889477507616768

Look at how Kelce throws his hand up in disgust, stops running, totally gives up, and slowly walks off the field while his teammates are trying to chase down the Bills player who intercepted Alex Smith. I've never seen a white athlete act this way. In the video, arch thug, Tyreek Hill, eventually runs down the Bills player at the 5 yard line. Pathetic effort by Kelce...

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It was probably the best week of the season for white players. Thielen achieved his first 1,000-yard season, Kupp had his first 100-yard game, McCaffrey looked good, Burkhead was amazing (and seems to have supplanted Gillislee and White) and scored 2 TD's, Ertz went over 100 with a TD, Gronk with 80 yards and 2 TD's, Rudolph had 2 TD's, Doyle had 95 yards, Kuechly with a TD, Wentz and Goff continue to dominate, etc.

Hopefully Woodhead shines tonight on MNF!
 

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Probably the worst fist fight I've ever seen in the NFL occurred yesterday between Crabtree and Talib. If either player would've connected on the haymakers they threw, one of them would've been KO'ed on the field. TNB is never good for business...

 

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I found this about Talib on Wikipedia, one can only imagine how much he's gotten away with without being arrested.

Talib has had several conduct related issues since his NFL career started. At the NFL rookie symposium in July 2008, Talib was involved in a fistfight with fellow Buccaneers rookie Cory Boyd.[29] On August 20, 2009, Talib allegedly battered a taxi driver,[30] and he was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and booked into the Pinellas County jail, charged with resisting arrest without violence and simple battery.[31] In March 2011, police in Garland, Texas issued a felony warrant for Talib for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after accusing him of firing a gun at his sister's boyfriend.[32] He was later released on $25,000 bond. Talib was indicted on the charge in May 2011.[33] On June 18, 2012, the charges were dropped due to insufficient evidence and character concerns with the accuser.[34]

In the early morning of June 5, 2016, Talib was shot in the leg outside a Dallas strip club. He was released from the hospital the same day. [35] It was later revealed that Talib falsified the report, having actually shot himself in the leg and lied to police. [36]
 
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