2017-2018 College Basketball Season

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  1. Jack Lambert

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    I wouldn't worry quite yet. The Badgers lost a lot from their 2015 runner up team and lost to teams like Milwaukee in 2016 and still made the Sweet 16. They've got a few new pieces, and their black players (and white players like Van Vliet and Pritzl, for that matter) aren't as good as the guys they replaced yet. Happ is playing at an All-America level, but guys like Trice, Iverson, Pritzl, and one of their white bigs REALLY need to play better. Trice and Iverson have cost the Badgers games this year with their mediocre play at times. Pritzl has been non-existent, and Van Vliet has fallen out of the rotation in favor of Nathan Reuvers. Wisconsin usually always rights the ship, so we'll see if the team around Happ and Davison (a freshman stud who'll be the next great Badger) gets better.

    The Hawkeyes are young, and missing their leader in Nicholas Baer, plus back-up PG Connor McCaffrey is out right now. I hope they improve soon. Most of their key guys are freshman and sophomores. There is definitely room for them to get better, and I think they will get better.

    In terms of Riggin's list, put Creighton on there too. They'll be a more palatable team again when starting stretch 4 Toby Hegner recovers from an ankle injury. With Mitchell Ballock coming in for 20+ minutes per game, Hegner's return will give the Blue Jays 2 white starters and three guys playing 20+ minutes, with a couple more playing less. That sounds like a good team to me.

    Maybe Wichita State?? When I watched them in Maui, they had Conner Frankamp starting, plus Nurger and Austin Reaves coming off the bench for around 15 minutes or so every game.

    Arizona State is another team in the Top 25 we could cheer for. They start 2 whites, and they'll have a huge presence in Mickey Mitchell eligible very shortly, giving them three whites with consistent PT.

    Although not preferred over more white teams, teams like Duke, Villanova, and Florida all have white men in their top players. Allen is the face of Duke, so they would be very preferable to an all-black side. Same with DiVinenczo and Villanova and Koulechov and Florida.
     
  2. celticdb15

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    Nice write up JL!
     
  3. Shadowlight

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    Just a few notes from last night's play.

    NC's Luke Maye had a 24-17 rebound stat line. May not be a run/jump athlete which is the standard take on white players but he has some quickness and is very smooth and skilled. In the same game Davidson has a 6'4" guard JL has brought up, Jon Axel Gudmundsson. He is putting up a nice all around stat line for the season and looks smooth and skilled as well.

    Elsewhere Dakota Mathias had a 20 pt. 9 assist game and along with big man Haas as Purdue defeated Maryland. Kevin Huerter scored 19 on only 9 shots. Give this impressive player the rock more often.

    Finally Gonzaga won behind a 22pt. 8R 2S 3BL 3A all around game by rising Killian Tillie. Watch him rise up for a nasty throw down see below.

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  4. celticdb15

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    Another horrid start for Badgers..
     
  5. Freethinker

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    Anti-White piece of garbage Mick Cronin is at it again. The Cincinnati Bearcats head coach, who hasn't stated a White player in a decade and was married to a negress, had an "exchange of words" with Xavier's star White player JP Macura. Xavier's head coach has strongly come to JP's defense.

    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...hanges-words-xavier-musketeers-jp-macura-loss

    Here are some of the interesting details.

    Cronin claims JP told him to "eff off 3 times". He followed up by saying, "If he was playing for me, he wouldn't play," [Freethinker: I'm sure he wouldn't play AT ALL if he had the misfortune of being on Cincinnati, huh Mick?]

    Xavier coach Chris Mack then came into the news conference after Cronin finished and was heated, saying, "There's two sides to the story," and, "There's a reason their coach was issued a technical in the game."

    "J.P.'s my guy," Mack said of Macura. "J.P. will fight for every inch on the basketball court. He's a great kid. I'm not going to let anybody control the narrative on who they think J.P. Macura is." [FT: Good for Mack setting the record straight.]

    Mack then referenced an incident from 2009 or 2010 when former Cincinnati guard Lance Stephenson was with the Bearcats.

    "Lance Stephenson, right in front of me, called me the N-word three times and said F- you," Mack said. "After the game, guess what I did? I shook his hands. I shook his hands. There is no narrative. There is no narrative. We won." [FT: My favorite part of the article. Shows the true racial dynamics and absurdity of what Whites have to deal with when encountering blacks in the Modern American Sports Complex.]
     
  6. celticdb15

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    Marquette and Wisconsin playing on FS1 . Rowsey having another great game with 20+pts with a ton of time left. Golden Eagles blowing outthe Badgers, this year's UW squad is no doubt The worst I've seen in the past 16 seasons I've watched. Gotta feel for Happ, he's got zero supporting cast! Happy for Marquette though! I'll be throwing my support behind them for the rest of the season along with other white friendly teams.
     
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  7. Jack Lambert

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    Perhaps the biggest storyline of the college basketball season thus far is North Carolina's Luke Maye. Maye has been an absolute stud so far this year, and is a double double machine. I've been able to watch him a couple of times this year, and he's VERY impressive. He can score in any way possible, and is an absolute beast on the boards. Maye is currently leading the Tar Heels in scoring at 20 PPG, and in rebounding, at over 10 per game. Maye can also play defense; he's first on the Tar Heels in blocks, with over 1 per game. If Maye keeps this up, he'll be an All-American and Wooden Award candidate. If you haven't watched Maye and the Tar Heels, make it a point to catch him at some point. You wanna know how good he's been? His last four games he's been unstoppable. Against Michigan, he had 27 points, 6 boards, and 3 assists; against Davidson, he had 24 points and 17 rebounds; against Tulane, 22 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists and 4 blocks, and against West Carolina, 12 points and 12 boards in limited minutes.

    Maye makes the Tar Heels watchable, even more so than Duke this year. So far, Maye is the guy for UNC, and is the guy that announcers have been talking about. Grayson Allen seems to have taken more of a back seat role this year to Duke's hyped freshman. Freshman guard Andrew Platek has steadily been getting some more minutes; he's up to over 11 per game.

    Here's a good article on Maye's rise. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...name-march-madness-hero-to-national-superstar

    Another great story thus far is NC State freshman Braxton Beverly. He's been doing great after the NCAA finally allowed him to play. Kevin Keatts deserves some credit as well; although he wasn't exactly a white-friendly coach at UNCW, he fought for Beverly to become eligble after Beverly committed to NC State. Beverly came off the bench his first game back, and he's ascended to the starting lineup and is now the Wolfpack's PG. He's been playing some big minutes. He's also got a nice 3.17 assist to TO ratio. Beverly is going to be terrorizing ACC opponents for four years, and he's gonna be fun to watch.

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    I guess I was wrong with Wisconsin; thought they'd be better this year. Their offense is so anemic, Brad Davison is still growing, and Brevin Pritzl has gone AWOL, in that he's not producing at anywhere near the level Wisconsin needs him to. Trice and Iverson just aren't very good either. Trice is definitely not as good as previous Badger PGs. This is where the Tyler Herro decommit really hurts the Badgers. I'll just be hoping they'll be able to send Happ off with a good team next year.
     
  8. Jack Lambert

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    Some stats from today:

    Paul Jorgensen has rapidly become an important part of Butler's team. When Jorgensen is on, the Bulldogs are simply way better than when he isn't. He had 15 points in the Bulldogs' blowout win vs. cupcake Youngstown State. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Sean McDermott returns from injury; Jorgensen has been starting in his spot and playing well. Either way, I'm expecting both of them to play 25+ minutes per game at some point this season. Nate Fowler had 12 points and 3 boards in just 14 minutes off the bench.

    Celtic mentioned Rowsey; he lit it up against Wisconsin today! Rowsey led Marquette with 24 points, with 4 assists and 4 rebounds. The Golden Eagles get a great player in Aussie Harry Froling eligible now; Marquette should be heading back to the NCAA tournament this year. Sam Hauser had 16 points, 3 assists, and 3 boards.

    Maryland's Kevin Huerter had 15 points, 3 assists, and 3 boards in Maryland's easy win against Gardner-Webb. Michal Cekovsky had 12 points, 6 boards, 2 blocks and 2 assists.

    Creighton's Mitch Ballack and Martin Krampelj both had big games today. Ballock had 13 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, and a block in 30 minutes off the bench. Krampelj had 10 points and 11 boards. Of note, senior Toby Hegner has returned from his injury, and started today. The Blue Jays pulled away late against Nebraska.

    Florida's Egor Koulechov had 21 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 assists in the Gators' win over all black Cincinnati.

    Notre Dame's Matt Farrell had 24 points and 7 assists in an easy Irish win today.

    Moritz Wagner had 23 points in Michigan's come from behind win against UCLA. Thomas Welsh had 22 and 10 in the loss.
     
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    Mid-major team Fort Wayne has a star in their hands in starting SG John Konchar 6'5 207, whose gone under the radar gaining NBA interest. (Jr) Konchar is viewed as a Late-round sleeper candidate for next years draft. This man literally does it all on the court averaging 14.7 points, 9.5 rebounds, 3.7 assists, and 2.5 steals! Konchar oozes elite NBA 3-and-D potential, with his 2.5 SPG among the best in the nation, and a .477% 3-point stroke to go with it. By far Fort Wayne's best player and the Summit league's too for that matter. He possesses a unique rebounding ability, as he leads the team in rebounds as a 6'5 guard! The down side for Konchar is he plays in the mediocre Summit league, in which Fort Wayne sits 4th with a 6-5 record. However when Fort Wayne played Kentucky earlier this season Konchar lit them up, posting 19 points, 6 assists, 6 rebounds, and 3 steals on 7-13 shooting and 5 3's!! He reminds me of Pat Connaughton, as their the same height at 6'5 and share similiar "deceptive" athleticism! John Konchar is definitely one to keep an eye on!!!

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  10. Jack Lambert

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    Great post deceptive. I think I'll have to disagree with you on Konchar being the Summit League's best player, however. Don't get me wrong, Konchar is great, but there's one guy who I think is better. That is South Dakota State's Mike Daum. Now a junior, the "Dauminator" is a stud who is getting legit NBA consideration. At 6'9 250, Daum is everything for the Jackrabbits, and a threat to score from anywhere on the floor; he's got some great moves, and is a legitimate outside threat. Daum is scoring nearly 20 PPG, leading SDSU, and is also leading the Jackrabbits in rebounds with just under 8 per game. Although Daum's start isn't near as good as his previous campaign, he's still a great player who'll definitely be on the All-Summit League team with Konchar. Daum plays great against the best. Against Top 10 Wichita State (a game in which SDSU nearly upset the Shockers), Daum had 31 points! Against Kansas, he had a double double with 21 points and 11 boards.

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    The other guy in the Summit besides Daum and Konchar who could be Player of the Year in the conference is mercurial South Dakota guard Matt Mooney. A 6'3 junior, Mooney can completely take over a game when he's on, and he's the engine that makes the Coyotes go. Mooney is a good athlete who can score from anywhere on the court, and is a deadly catch and shoot threat. Also capable of playing defense, he's first on the Coyotes so far this year in steals with 14. He's a legit talent that may power South Dakota to an NCAA tournament berth this year. Mooney is first on the Coyotes in scoring at 16.3 PPG, and second in assists with 38 on the team. He's capable of blowing up. For instance, against a good TCU team (a game that South Dakota nearly won) Mooney led all scorers with 31 points! Mooney also opens things up for the other Coyotes on the floor; the team seems to be very balanced this year from looking at box scores.

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    Overall, it looks like the Summit League has three great players, with one of them in all likelihood getting the the NCAA tournament.
     
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