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Discussion in 'College Basketball' started by Jack Lambert, Nov 11, 2014.
I haven't seen Tuttle play yet. Who does he play like in the NBA?
Nice job on the reporting JL, AA, and R44. I always enjoy seeing the white talent in college basketball in other parts of the country since I can't pull for Duke anymore.
How many white friendly teams have a chance at making the tournament?
Is the Sabonis kid from Gonzaga the son of the great Lithuanian Arvydas Sabonis?
Seth Greenberg said (and I agree with him) he plays like Tim Duncan! He's great with his back to the basket as Duncan is as well, and can hit the mid-range jumpers.
I think you should be able to cheer for Duke again next year!! They'll have an amazing kid by the name of Luke Kennard coming in (recently broke LeBron's scoring record in Ohio) they'll have Grayson Allen back, and if Jones and Winslow leave with Okafor, these guys will be in for major minutes. Hopefully Marshall Plumlee will be able to play a lot in his senior year. Duke is also apparently interested in a couple of other white players: German combo forward Mortiz Wagner, and center Antonio Vrankovic for the 2015 class.
Yep!! Domantas is indeed Arvydas's son!
To answer about the tourney: Here's a rough estimate of the teams I've seen. My criteria (which is probably a bit less than some) for a "white friendly" team is 1 white starter who's a huge part/star of the team and two white reserves that average 15-20+ minutes most nights off the bench, or 2 white starters who are major contributors (I.E. 10+ PPG) and average over 25 MPG. If two white players are on the floor for most of the game, that's still 40% of the guys playing for a team, which is a LOT more than you get with most football teams these days.
I'll try my best, but here goes:
Locks: Arizona, Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Maryland (hopefully, one of the best big men in Michel Chekovsky may be out with injury), Wichita State, Northern Iowa, Butler, Boise State, Iowa, Yale (if they win the Ivy League; I'm hoping Tommy Amaker's all-black Harvard squad loses).
On the Bubble: BYU, Davidson, UCLA, Stanford
Need to win conference tourney (mid-majors) Stephen F. Austin, South Dakota State, Belmont, William & Mary, Albany/Vermont, Western Michigan, Eastern Washington
These are the main ones. There's probably a few mid-majors that I've missed, but I feel I've got the bigger teams mostly picked out.
The next few games will be huge. From Joe Lunardi's bracket, we need to root against NC State, Texas, Oregon, Temple, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Colorado State, Miami, Indiana, and Illinois. Losses by these teams will definitely help our guys on the bubble get in. Obviously, our guys need to help themselves as well.
So Tuttle plays like Duncan? Interesting since he is only 6'8". But I will go with what you and Seth Greenberg tell me.
Yep. Basically Greenberg said he uses the glass very well like Duncan and can hit the mid range shot.
I need to check up on some of these teams prior to march madness. Just curious - Is Arizona a white friendly team?
Yes they start two white guys and they are ranked in the top 5 in the nation.
And Ristic gets minutes off the bench at center as well.
Also, Elliott Pitts (who's probably at least part hispanic) gets minutes at guard.
Surprisingly, Seth Greenberg seems very fair to White players during his broadcasts and analysis. Rare for a tribesman. He has my respect at the moment.
Also, a big win for Iowa last night over Indiana. I think their ticket is pretty much punched after that.
Glad to see Iowa knock off Tom Crean's way too-black Hoosiers. Hopefully they'll get knocked out of the Big Dance. Also, I agree with you on Greenberg; he's definitely one of the best analysts to listen to on ESPN right now. I think he also likes Frank Kaminsky for Player of the Year over Okafor. It's a shame he wasn't very fair to white players as a coach at Virginia Tech! Although being at Virginia Tech itself isn't exactly a recipe to bring in white players; I've never seen a white player of note from there.
In news that should make Carolina Speed VERY happy, Duke freshman guard Grayson Allen led the Dukies with 27 points tonight!! He outscored Wake Forest by himself 19-15 (I believe) in the 1st half!! With Kennard coming in next year as well, things should be looking bright again for the Blue Devils in the future.
In the Battle of the Los Angeles teams, Bryce Alford had 23 points to lead the Bruins past USC, who got 22 points from guard Katin Reinhardt.
Jack, I also basically like Greenberg on TV. And VT hasn't really elevated since Greenberg left, so I don't think he was responsible for Tech's perceived underachievement.
Going back to VT's mid-80s Metro conference days, do you remember they had a good White dude named (Bobby) Beecher. When he finished his college career he was in Tech's top 10 all time scoring and rebounding.. but to your point, that was close to 30 yrs ago.
Speaking of Virginia guys, UVa's coach Bennett doesn't seem to be getting due respect (?) This guy has created a great defensive program. And he's an incredible 35-3 against the ACC over the last 2 yrs. I think Bennett is passing Terry Holland in stature; imagine Bennett w/a star like Ralph Sampson.
Yeah JL, I channel surfed the games last night and didn't even know Duke was playing, not that I was going to watch them, but the Duke/WF game wasn't nationally televised. Great to here Allen played well. Hopefully, as you said, they'll be more watchable next season. Excited about the Kennard kid coming in next season.
I guess I haven't ever heard of Beecher before, but that's pretty sad if he's their last white player of note.
I enjoy watching Virginia's defense; it isn't always pretty, but it is so good; I think Kentucky would have a lot of difficulties against them. Bennett is going to have a great team there for a long time. I agree with you that he hasn't been getting much respect from the media. Maybe it's because his teams actually play great defense as opposed to the NBA style game that tools like Jay Bilas and Seth Davis would love to see college basketball become.
I forgot to mention a couple of great performances by our guys from last night.
Keith Hornsby from LSU had 25 points last night in the Tigers' loss to Tennessee. Also, in UNC Asheville guard news, Andrew Rowsey lit up Liberty for 34 points yesterday!!
Some more good news for Duke and Carolina Speed; I just saw that 2015 6'10 prospect Antonio Vrankovic may be getting a Duke offer soon!! If this is true, it looks like the Blue Devils will be back to playing their white guys soon!
Some games of intrigue today...
7PM Eastern - Wisconsin @ Minnesota on ESPN
9PM Eastern - VCU @ Davidson on ESPNU
9 PM Eastern - Cal @ Arizona on ESPN
All three of these games are ones that CFers should try and see - some good white players on Wisconsin, Davidson, Arizona, and Cal.
Wisconsin's win last night gave then the regular season Big 10 title!
Dekker had a monster jam:
Keith Hornsby drills a 3 at the buzzer to lift LSU over the Razorbacks!!
Also, Iowa is peaking at the right time this year!! They demolished Northwestern today behind 25 points and 8 rebounds from Aaron White, and 16 points and 8 rebounds from Jarrod Uthoff!
Men theres a helluva caste match up on espn2 if yall care at all. ALL white Belmont should be 20 points ahead of very black Murray State. However the refs are letting the negros get away with murder. Even the clearly bias commentators are having to admit it. The Belmont boys can all handle the rock very well, and its great team ball on display.
The young White men managed to beat both the refs, and the black boys on the other team in an outstanding buzzer beater finish! Ill be rooting for the Belmont Bruins from here on out.
I just got done watching the game, and all I can say is, WOW!!! This game was awesome to watch; it was back and forth the entire night. Murray State was the media's preferred Cinderella darling for the NCAA tournament (I wonder why....), which makes it even sweeter that all-white Belmont knocked them off. Craig Bradshaw, Taylor Barnette, and Evan Bradds played great tonight, with Barnette hitting an awesome fade-away three with 3 seconds left to win the game. Bradshaw had ice in his veins the entire game; the guy could not miss. Bradshaw finished with 25 points, and Bradds finished with 21 points and also 11 big rebounds. Overall, a great night for our guys!!
For those who are still interested, two VERY white friendly teams in Gonzaga and BYU will be playing on ESPN2, one right after the other.
EDIT: Already, I've seen several media personalities in mourning that America will not have the privilege of watching Murray State's Cam Payne on the national stage, since you know, that all-white team knocked out Murray State.
Awesome ending to Belmont-Murray St. The last 3 that the Belmont player hit was epic. It was a thing of beauty to see 5 white Belmont players defeat 5 black Murray St. players at the very end.
Yeah when these games happen like this one did (which is FAR more often than most people think) it shatters the caste system brainwashing. Most people believe that blacks are so athletically superior that a team with 5 White starters should NEVER be able to even hang with an all black team, much less beat them.
What a great night of college hoops this was! 3 games in a row I watched White alpha males send spoiled negros home confused, and disappointed! 2 of these games ended in clutch buzzer beaters by White stars.
I know these near retarded negros cant pass their grades, so therefore they shouldnt even be eligible to play, but they still couldnt defeat the White kids that are also forced to pass classes in order to play. In a fair world of fair competition blacks would rarely win anything.
I agree, last night's games were awesome!! We had so many great performances by our guys yesterday; truly a great day of college hoops! I hate to keep repeating myself, but for all those who are disappointed/angry at the complete lack of white players in the NFL/College Football, come watch some college hoops! If you find the right teams, there is plenty of white talent to root for, and unlike college football (where, let's be honest, teams like Wisconsin or Air Force or Iowa have absolutely NO shot to win the championship), there are some elite white friendly teams with a chance to play for the whole thing!!
As Wes and I have pointed out, it was a great day for our guys, and be prepared for a LONG list of scorers!!
Kellen Dunham - Butler - 15 points, 4 rebounds
Ivan Cruz Uceda - Miami - 18 points, 5 rebounds
Aaron White - Iowa - 25 points, 8 rebounds
Jarrod Uthoff - Iowa - 16 points, 8 rebounds
Nick Zeisloft - Indiana - 17 points, 5 rebounds
Omar Prewitt - William & Mary - 16 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists
Matt Carlino - Marquette - 20 points, 5 rebounds
Luke Fischer - Marquette - 17 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks
Matt Stainbrook - Xavier - 26 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists
Keith Hornsby - LSU - 13 points (including the game-winning three at the buzzer!!), 6 rebounds
Max Bielfeldt - Michigan - 14 points, 11 rebounds
Ron Baker - Wichita State - 13 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, 4 steals
TJ McConnell - Arizona - 10 points, 11 assists, 3 steals, 2 rebounds
Nemanja Djurisic - Georgia - 14 points, 8 rebounds
Jakob Poeltl - Utah - 18 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks
Seth Tuttle - Northern Iowa - 13 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block
Josh Hawkinson - Washington State - 21 points, 10 rebounds
Craig Bradshaw - Belmont - 25 points
Evan Bradds - Belmont - 21 points, 11 rebounds
Tylerr Kalinoski - Davidson - 32 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists, a steal and a block
Thomas Walkup - Stephen F Austin - 19 points, 11 rebounds
Przemek Karnowski - Gonzaga - 24 points, 4 rebounds
Kyle Wiltjer - Gonzaga - 19 points, 8 rebounds
Mark Tollefsen - San Francisco - 21 points, 8 rebounds
Tim Derksen - San Francisco - 21 points, 10 rebounds
Venky Jois - Eastern Washington - 22 points, 16 rebounds
Alec Peters - Valpo - 22 points, 8 rebounds
AJ Jacobson - North Dakota State - 23 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists
Tyler Haws - BYU - 30 points, 9 rebounds
Kyle Collinsworth - BYU 15 points, 8 rebounds
For those that want a couple of hoops games today, white friendly Northern Iowa is playing Illinois State on CBS, which will be followed by white friendly Wisconsin against Ohio State.
Wisconsin, with four White starters, destroyed the coal black Ohio State squad. Wisconsin is ranked 6th and may snag a 1 seed. Wouldn't it be great to see a Wisconsin/Kentucky caste matchup in the finals.......with Wisconsin coming out on top