Dwid you are absolutely right. Brees in an elite qb and hopefully a future hall of famer. What he has accomplished with the team around him is nothing short of remarkable in my opinion. I hate the saints organization btw and the dwfs in that city are some of the all time worst.
Thank you for agreeing. His supporting cast has been terrible for the most part.
yes the organization is horrible (Im guessing it was the owner who called the shots because hthey have been majority black since he bought the team, with the exception of Ditka era where they had Keith Poole (White WR, and I believe Cam Cleeland) .
Mike Hass was 10x better than Lance Moore but Moore had like 1/8th or 1/16th black in him, and went from practice squad player to starter. Any fan that can follow a team like a diehard that didn't win for like 40 years has to be delusional (growing up, glancing at the screen, at 5 I literally thought Dempsey the kicker with the long record was black, because thats all I saw on the team) They had a winning period in the 90's with an all black "dome patrol" where they would hold the 49er's, who were in their division during that decade ( with Montana and Young) to 3 to 6 points for 3 quarters only to get slaughtered in the 4th, yet those guys are still highly thought of, one in Canton. Then go one and done in the playoffs. With Bobby ****rt (the only White I consistently playing, also a qb) and his main target who was a 4.9 possession receiver Eric Martin who offered no deep threat, just get the snot knocked out of him over the middle for the first. There was a brief period where Fenerty (spelling), who was White, got to carry the ball for 1 or 2 years, splitting carries with the 290 pound "Ironhead", reports had him in the 300 range.
I have a theory of why they may be so black (just one of many). Crime is at all time low during Saints games, like its rare for a violent crime to happen when they are playing. I remember one instance where someone shot another due to arguing over them losing at half time but thats it. Sunday in general just is a day with a lower crime rate, and most people are watching the game. I am sure drug stuff is going on but no violent stuff.
Walking down the street and just overhearing conversations at stores I constantly hear blacks talking about how they "gonna get them a big ol crack rock and some weed and enjoy the Saints inside my house" I don't know what to call them, drugged up black fans? dubs?
but I have noticed, without a White qb less people watch, the Brooks years little people cared, so I guess they stick to the White qb and the rest being black, except for the fluke where they brought in 3 White iinebackers in 2006, which was out of need because of rebuilding. Fans never put 2 and 2 together and realized they won more games with those guys. They got rid of Fujita (which they wanted), then Shanle (which they really wanted) and worst defense in history last year. No scapegoat there so they took it out on the coordinator. And then when Ninkovich went to the Pats they were dumbfounded, with threads every week like "whyd we get rid of this guy?). The original thought was that he was suited for the 3-4, but they run a lot of of 4-3 and does great now. They still haven't put it together.
I feel like people have been down on him because of his pre game chant, crap, he has to do something to motivate those affletes.
I was going through the td passes through the box scores, and the opposing qbs had just as many short td passes in most games if not more. I 'll post them on another thread when i have time, its a long process, here is a simplified version of why they pass.
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The "pocket qb" has better rushing stats than the first rounder haha.
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Robinson just came on the past 2 games and has shown flashes in garbage time. They gave Ingram multiple chances because he is a first round pick, he would have more carries but hes been out a toe injury the past two games (rumours are that he wants a trade, no one is going to want a guy with that production), a Powerback with 1 first down and 0 tds. Sproles catches teams off guard with draws etc out of shotgun/passing sets, plays Woodhead should be getting, but he can't run up the gut and traditional running plays like Woodhead.
Sow with that running game, what would you do? continue to get less than 3.5 ypc or chuck it down the field?
so dwfs and dubs are the diehards. I try to get through to some but they say the same cliche "the best players play" because of one example, they kept an udfa over a 4th rounder, who is out of the league now.
Btw Brees lobbied for Tanner, the first White wideout he got to work with (the others were with the 2s, 3s etc), they still got rid of him. Lance Moore hasn't done squat so they couldve used him, (Meachem made one big catch, thats it) The rookie looks lost, the 2nd year Toon can't get seperation despite his 4.4 speed.
