2013-2014 UEFA Champions League season

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  1. Giles Daldanus

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    The new Champions League season is in full swing, with only the playoff round to go before the start of the actual group stage.

    Here are some of the more interesting breakdowns from the matches that were held on the 6th and the 7th of August. I am mainly interested in following the teams that qualify through the “champions path”, as they are less well-known and are mainly based in Eastern European countries.

    Fenerbahce Istanbul (Turkey)Red Bull Salzburg (Austria) 3:1 (4:2 on aggregate)

    Fenerbahce S.K.

    Started: 4 Whites (2 Portuguese, 1 Czech, 1 Dutchman), 3 Turks (I am guessing that they could be considered borderline cases from a racial standpoint, for both phenotypical and cultural/religious/historical reasons), 4 Blacks (1 Brazilian, 1 Senegalese, 1 Nigerian, 1 Cameroonian)

    3 Turks came on as substitutes (1 during the first half).

    Red Bull Salzburg

    Started: 8 Whites (5 Austrians, 1 Hungarian, 1 Slovenian, 1 Spaniard), 1 mestizo (Brazilian Andre Ramalho), 1 mulatto (Brazilian Alan Carvalho), 1 Black (Senegalese Sadio Mane).

    2 Austrians entered the fray as substitutes during the second half.

    Partizan Belgrade (Serbia) – Ludogorets Razgrad Bulgaria) 0:1 (1:3 on aggregate)

    Partizan Belgrade

    Started: 10 Whites (8 Serbs, 1 Montenegrin, 1 Bulgarian), 1 Black (Cameroonian Eric Djemba-Djemba).

    3 Serbs appeared as subs.

    Ludogorets Razgrad

    Started: 9 Whites (6 Bulgarians, 1 Finn, 1 Frenchman, 1 Slovenian), 2 mestizos (both Brazilians).

    2 Portuguese and a Spaniard were the subs.

    Legia Warsaw (Poland) – Molde FK (Norway) 0:0 (1:1 aggregate score, the Poles advance due to the away goals rule).

    Legia Warsaw

    Started: 10 Whites (5 Poles, 1 Slovak, 1 Estonian, 1 Serbian, 1 Croatian, 1 Georgian), 1 mulatto (Dosa Junior who is from Brazil, but plays for the Cyprus national team). I am not sure whether Georgians are considered white in the US census, I guess that some may perceive them as “off-white”.

    2 Poles came on as subs

    Molde FK


    Started: 9 Whites (7 Norwegians, 1 Swede, 1 Finn), 2 Blacks (2 Nigerians)
    1 Senegalese, 1 Norwegian with Serbian roots and 1 Norwegian of Arab descent were the replacements for Molde.

    Viktoria Plzen
    (Czech Republic) – Nomme Kalju (Estonia) 6:2 (10:2 on aggregate)

    Plzen


    Started: 11 Whites (8 Czechs, 3 Slovaks)
    Finished: same ratio

    Nomme Kalju

    Started: 8 Whites (5 Estonians, 2 Estonians of Russian descent, 1 Italian), 1 Asian (1 Japanese), 2 Blacks (1 Frenchman with African roots, 1 Gambian)

    2 Estonians and a Brazilians participated as subs

    Amazingly, Transnistria side Sheriff Tiraspol featured only 1 Moldovan (who appeared as an early substitute) in their 0:3 home loss against Dinamo Zagreb.

    BATE Borisov (who won 3:1 against Bayern Munich during the 2012/2013 season and whose starters are all from Belarus) had a disappointing campaign, as they were eliminated by Kazakh champions Shakhtar Karagandy by an aggregate score of 0:2, which is probably the biggest surprise so far. I am sure that this was a one-off and they will bounce back. The Belarusians were a bit unlucky in the return leg (their first Champions League group stage scorer - Sergey Krivets - missed a penalty kick that could have sent the second match into extra time).
     
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  2. Matra2

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    Red Bull Salzburg

    Such a tacky name. Imagine cheering for a team named after a drink.
     
  3. Jack Lambert

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    Here are a couple of the playoff matches that I watched a little bit of today.

    PSV Eindhoven 1, AC Milan 1

    Eindhoven

    Started: 3 whites (2 Dutchman), 4 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 half-Tunisian, 1 half-Moroccan, 1 half Surinamese
    Finished: 3 whites (1 Dutchman), 5 blacks, and those other 3 I listed.

    AC Milan

    Started: 4 whites (3 Italians), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 5 whites (4 Italians), 5 blacks, 1 Arab


    Pacos De Ferreira 1, Zenit St. Petersburg 4

    Ferreira

    Started: 7 whites (6 Portuguese), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo,
    Finished: 7 whites (6 Portuguese), 4 blacks

    Zenit

    Started: 10 whites (6 Russians), 1 black
    Finished: 10 whites (5 Russians), 1 black - (That "Belgian" Axel Witsel, is the lone minority on the team right now) The Brazilian striker Hulk wasn't even on the bench for Zenit today.

    Needless to say, the 2nd match was was far more enjoyable than watching two "European" teams compete with each other.
     
  4. frederic38

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    another interesting result was lyon getting thrashed at home by real sociedad (basque club) with 0 blacks
    the most interesting thing was about griezmann

    [​IMG]

    griezmann is the young white player i had talked about in the french soccer thread
    he was refused by french clubs and had to leave his country at 14 years old to live in spain without his parents to have a chance to turn pro in another country

    there was some talk about that in france before the match
    griezmann said that actually since he came from a city not far to lyon, lyon was his favourite club growing up
    he used to go in the stadium with his father
    he also said that he was refused by lyon for being too small (usual for a white player if you have read the french soccer thread: the same happened to knockaert, ribery, valbuena...)

    then the match started, and i was hoping that he would score or at least do a great match for his first match ever played in france, at the age of 22

    then he did this:

    [video=youtube_share;Fo6qKSNIIHk]http://youtu.be/Fo6qKSNIIHk[/video]

    :crazy:

    france's youth system (very black friendly to say the least) humiliated once again in front of many fans in an important match
     
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    another important result:

    arsenal with 8 whites beat fenerbahce 3-0 and will most likely play champions league
    it was very important
     
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    Wow, there actually is some justice in the universe. Griezmann sent the most emphatic F you he possibly could to the racist French soccer clubs and Lyon. Score one for the good guys!

    P.S. - Welcome back Frederic, the soccer threads were too quiet without you.
     
  7. frederic38

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    thank you
    i hope that it will be a great season :yo:
     
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    It's amazing that players are rejected for size. This guy isn't really that small either. Maybe he was smaller at 14.

    I wonder if they would have rejected Neymar as a child. I read he is only 135 pounds.

     
  9. Matra2

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    France in August=:closed_2:
     
  10. frederic38

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    yes, vacations
    i was at a far right summer training camp in my area last week

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    and the weeks before i was in the south of france doing nothing
     
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    plzen qualified for the champions league :clap2:
     
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    I've been to Plzen. It's quite a small city so I doubt they've got much money, unless the brewery Pilsner Urquell gives them some!

    They are in Group D with Man City, Bayern Munich, and CSKA Moscow, so things don't look good for them, although City have already lost this year in the EPL. Here are the other groups:

    Group A
    Manchester United
    Shakhtar Donetsk
    Bayer Leverkusen
    Real Sociedad
    Group B
    Real Madrid
    Juventus
    Galatasaray
    Copenhagen
    Group C
    Benfica
    PSG
    Olympiakos
    Anderlecht

    Group E

    Chelsea
    Schalke
    Basel
    Steaua Bucharest
    Group F
    Arsenal
    Dortmund
    Marseille
    Napoli
    Group G
    Porto
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Atletico Madrid
    FC Austria Vienna
    Group H
    Barcelona
    Milan
    Ajax
    Celtic
     
  13. frederic38

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    a very dificult group for arsenal, with 2 other nice strong white teams
     
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    I assume Olympique Marseille is not one of those white teams. I don't mind who goes through in that group as long as it is not Marseille.

    This could be a landmark week in my life: I might actually have to cheer for Celtic:cry: as they are playing Milan. If Celtic play Efe Ambrose (assuming he's still in their squad) Milan will have a good chance to run up the score. Milan = Enemy #1
     
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    no, unless having 3 non black starters make them a white team :icon_surprised:
    but they are not to be taken lightly, because they have a lot of suporters, some good white players (valbuena the french international, and gignac, maybe cheyrou)
    i think that arsenal and napoli are going to go through, and dortmund will be eliminated

    but this will be tomorrow
    today i can't really see a match between a likeable team and a disgusting one
    maybe leverkusen will be pretty white, i don't know
    they face manchester united
     
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    Goal of the night by Cristiano Ronaldo, who scored a hat-trick, against Galatasaray:

    [video=youtube;5FolLg8HvQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FolLg8HvQ8[/video]
     
  17. TBProdigy

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    Ronaldo is the best player i've ever seen, he's moving ahead of Messi for me.

    Chelsea lost tonight, Mourinho is going to have to go back to the drawing board and assess all his new signings and squad, His best team is terry alongside cahill, Luiz at DM and torres oscar mata hazard upfront
     
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    messi's 3 goals today weren't bad either
    very happy for higuain who shows that he can score in champions league, for the ones who were saying he couldn't
    arsenal won because of horrible defending from marseille's black players:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. ThePhilosopher

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    I've always said Ronalo's better,because you cannot ignore the fact that messi took growth enhancing drugs,when wasn't a professional.

    Regarding chelsea,i think they're better of with oscar,de bruyne(who played a few cracming games at bremen in that position) at centre-mid,along with a triumvirate of hazard,mata,schurrle behind torres.cech as gk,ivanovic rb,cahill+luiz@cb.
    While cole is decent at lb,at least in a defensive capacity...people who claim he is the best left-back in the world are either non-whites,or jews,or brainwashed white liberals.Just look at baines,alba,contreao-these guys offer so much more!
    Many liberals recognise this and say that ashley cole is defensively the best left-back in the world.that's just bs!
    remember the cl final in munich?muller's header?rings a bell?
     
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    what does it change to messi's talent? both probably take GH right now anyways, like any other top athlete
     
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    yes,probably Ronaldo takes it now as well.hence,i mentioned 'before he was a professional'....messis's been taking gh and what not since 14 years old,how are we to know if it hasn't given him an edge,atleast over ronaldo?Its just conjecture,maybe we will never kow.

    I'm not being yannick noah or anything,even witbout his rapid,almost unreal acceleration(which i believe is the only aspect of his game which could have been slightly benifitted by years of gh consumption) messi is still one of the best passer,finisher on the planet.
    No amount of any elixir in this universe could teach passing,finishing to a black.of course jew propaganda changes that-you bet i had to mention them!
     
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    i think a lot of people are mistaken when they think that the ability to accelerate with the ball is mainly because of physical abilities, i think it's related mostly to skill, to be able to accelerate with the ball you have to be very skilled mostly
     
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    Soccer players to me look like average size people. Few are really muscular or defined. Ronaldo is one of the most defined white guys.

    I think ped's wouldn't be too usefull for soccer. Maybe drugs that enhance endurance so you can be fresher near the end of a game might be useful.
     
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  24. frederic38

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    usually when an amateur team plays against a professional team, near the end of the match the amateur team stumbles because they are too tired
    ofcourse it could be because they spent the whole match running after the ball because the other team had possession
    there is a french-arab player in the french league who is better at distance running than the best french-arab distance runner (who got a silver medal in the olympic games)
    so some soccer players have great stamina, either because of drugs or because they are the best athlete the country has to offer
     
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    Amsterdam Arena trying to make Milan players feel at home by playing Bob Marley over the loudspeakers?

    Meanwhile, Man United's David Moyes has left behind Rio Ferdinand - who has a groin injury, but also Fabio, Anderson, and Zaha for their trip to Donetsk. It's probably too much to hope that Man United's dark days are coming to an end.

    Arsenal leading Napoli 2-0 at half time with both Ozil and Giroud scoring.
     

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