2011 New England Patriots

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  1. Thrashen

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    A recent positive development in New England is the Patriots announcement that, after undergoing abdominal surgery, they will release defensive end Tully Banta-Cain later this week. From ESPN…

    Mike Wright, who has supposedly made a full recovery from a severe concussion in 2010, should be the primary beneficiary of Banta-Cain’s departure. Wright will likely start at left defensive end and Rob Ninkovich may start (or be heavily featured) at right defensive end. Second year UDFA, Dane Fletcher, will also be a large part of the outside linebacker rotation and is one injury (or black demotion) away from starting.

    With three white players being heavily featured on defense, coupled with five white offensive lineman (Light/Solder, Mankins, Koppen, Kaczur, Vollmer), a white quarterback (Brady), a white running back (Woodhead), a white tight end (Gronkowski) and two white wide receivers (Welker and Edelman), the Patriots should remain as white-friendly as is possibly conceivable within the despotic parameters set forth by the “black power maestros” of the contemporary American Caste System.

    The most white-friendly teams heading into the 2011 season should be the Packers, the Patriots, the Colts, the Texans, the Browns, the Rams and the Falcons. Most encouraging of all is the fact that these six teams happen to feature an array of white skill players such as: WR Jordy Nelson, RB John Kuhn, WR Brett Swain, WR Wes Welker, WR Julian Edelman, TE Rob Gronkowski, RB Danny Woodhead, WR Austin Collie, WR Blair White, TE Dallas Clark, TE Jacob Tamme, WR Anthony Gonzalez, WR Kevin Walter, WR David Anderson, WR Jeff Maehl, TE Owen Daniels, TE James Casey, RB Peyton Hillis, TE Evan Moore, WR Danny Amendola, and WR Kerry Meier.
     
  2. DWFan

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    Awesome overview Thrashen!

    Hope we get another semi-white-fair vs. pure-caste Super Bowl! I'm going to keep the teams you mentioned in mind until the season starts.
     
  3. TwentyTwo

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    Nice Trashen!

    With Banta-Cain set to be released..could this open the door for Matt Roth??

    Is 22 whites on the 53 man roster a fair estimate??
     
  4. Carolina Speed

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    Albert Haynesworth????

    Albert Haynesworth? Just when I was kinda liking the Pats! Somebody explain this insanity!
     
  5. Carolina Speed

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    Haynesworth to the Patriots????

    The fact that I posted this ridiculous transaction over an hour ago and haven't heard the slightest bit of response leads me to believe that either A. Everyone on CF is just plain Speechless, or B. Too d#$% pi$$3d off to give it any response period , or C. like most of us working to earn a living and just trying to gather their thoughts in a timely matter.

    No matter what anyone thinks, I think this is another taste of lunacy of the PTB, Giving this lazy, fat, waste of what could be the biggest free-agent bust of all time any kind of job. Other than a rib, chicken, and watermelon eating contest, he has no business receiving a job period let alone getting 5 million to be nothing but a big fat @ss bust!
     
  6. jaxvid

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    Bellicheck has a reputation of being able to motivate malcontent former black star players. I think it's supposed to be because of his supposed emphasis on a "team" instead of individual system. I don't believe there is much evidence to support that line of thinking but with his level of success he will given plenty of opportunities to try it.

    With the Patriots horrible coal black defense he is going to need all the help he can get until he gets some of those high motor hard working type guys to play on defense as well.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    New England's defense isn't coal black anymore. They had two White starters last year and Dane Fletcher was in the rotation a lot as well. Thrashen made an excellent summary of their overachievers on offense and defense a few posts above.
     
  8. Claimjumper

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    seriously?!? they just traded for chad ochocinco:thumbdown::crazy:
     
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    Ochostinko going to Pats is very disturbing. But, I'm hoping that it means that Branch is impacted the most, not Welker, and that in Cincinatti Shipley gets more playing time, and Whalen has a better shot now of making the team. Too bad he wasn't traded to the Steelers or somewhere else that doesn't already have white WR's.
     
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    They aren't just picking up prissy thugs, but thugs that have made their preference for White (and, in the case of Ocho - White & latina) women known. Belichick is weak:tinfoil3:
     
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  11. Carolina Speed

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    Now all they need to do is pick up Pac-Man Jones and it will come full circle! It looks like the NFL owners and coaches have been in a drunken stuper the last what 3-4 months!

    What is going on? I keep thinking I will wake up from this nightmare!
     
  12. Riddlewire

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    Now maybe I can get a few people to understand what I've been saying in the college forums for years.
    Football coaches are scum.
    There are no exceptions.
    There is no such thing as a "white friendly" coach. Only temporary statistical aberrations.
     
  13. dwid

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    Coaches don't always have the final say in college football. I know we like to think they are the reason, but there are people behind the scenes, so you never know. As for Bellicheck shame on him:

    "Only six other NFL coaches have final-say authority on draft and roster decisions — Philadelphia's Andy Reid​, Washington's Shanahan, New England's Bill Belichick​, Seattle's Pete Carroll, Houston's Gary Kubiak​ and Cincinnati's Marvin Lewis​."

    Ochocino I can understand but Haynesworth I don't, he didn't exactly excel in Washington's scheme.

    maybe he was probably taking a lot of heat for having that many Whites. To the media these guys are "no names". I guess he wanted to add two "super stars" to the roster to balance things out.

    I doubt Ochocinco will do much, he won't be taking time away from Welker, two completely different receivers. The passing game runs through Welker, Ochocinco couldn't do what he does.

    If not motivated I could see Haynesworth and Wilfork struggling to complete a entire game while rotating spots. The trade depends on whether Haynesworth can pass a physical, so we will see. There aren't many White nose tackles for Bellicheck to choose from unless there was a way he could get Kelly Gregg. In fact there aren't many good 3-4 defensive tackles to choose from period! That is why he probably made this move. Haynesworth is popular for a reason, he is one of the few afflete defensive tackles that is good (when motivated). Its the same with Nnamdi and Revis, people treat them like gods because they are actually good at playing the position instead of mediocre like most of the cornerbacks.

    The Patriots are still a White friendly team though. Two big name affletes doesn't take away from that, but I could see the media trying to spin it that way if Ochocinco has 3 catches for 35 yards 1 td and Welker has 8 catches for 120 2 tds.
     
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    I wouldn't worry too much about Ochocinco. He's a big mouth and self promoter, but he's basicaly taking over the NE #1 outside WR spot that Moss played. Ochocino hasn't had criminal issues (if I'm not mistaken)- and BB is good at working with players like him. Welker will alternate with Branch as the Flanker at times, but will usually play the slot. I expect Branch to usually be the one to sit when the Patriots go to 2 back sets or 2 TE sets.

    Haynesworth was good a few years ago, but has been lazy and out of shape. Maybe BB will get him motivated now that he's on a winning organization.

    BB isn't "white friendly" (or even fair to whites really) he (along with only a few other NFL coaches...maybe McCarthy, Kubiak and Caldwell?) isn't a white "hater". It would be nice if BB had the courage to sign a second white RB in the future and a deep threat white WR. If he does we will know that he is at least "trying" hard to be fair.
     
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    It would be nice for him to find a White nose tackle, maybe Blaine Sumner as a project for the future and at least one White in the secondary since his schemes are more based on exotic coverage shells rather than blitzes.

    As far as a second White back for the Pats, I wish Bellicheck would give Woodhead closer to a Marshall Faulk type role with closer to 300 touches rushing and receiving. At least let him get enough touches to get closer to 2k from scrimmage. Maybe 250 carries and 60 receptions, if he has the same average per carry and per reception as last year he would go over the 2k mark.

    At least have his workload double because 131 touches is not enough for a guy with such an elite skillset. Charles split touches with Jones and had around 275 touches which is closer to what Danny should get.

    I don't think Ochocinco has any trouble with the law except telling them hes allergic to the sun on a traffic stop when he had tinted windows.

    It would've been nice for him to pick up someone like Jones to stretch the field. I still think Jones would put up great stats with the Patriots.
     
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    The lock out not even a week over, and already two malcontent affelets are polluting my fav team. Haysworth and ochostinko! WTF is BB thinking of? I guess the multi headed caste serpent has resurfaced in force. F**K!
     
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    Belicheck has a lot of fans on this web site, but his history suggests that his giving an opportunity to Welker and Woohead are aberrations in an otherwise typical Castean career.

    He drafted TWO RBs early in this year's draft. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I simply can't believe that Woodhead won't be negatively impacted by that.

    Signing the two odious players they did yesterday proves that Belicheck has a thing for those with "character" flaws. Remember, he sought out all time leading juvenile offender Corey Dillon. He brought in another thug in Randy Moss. He drafted the extremely "troubled" Brandon Meriweather. Now he trades for the obese, abysmal laughingstock Haynesworth and then tops off a productive day by signing the ultimate overhyped afflete in Ochocinco. Yeah, this guy really wants a whiter team.

    I hope Ochocinco doesn't cut into Welker's numbers; he's never been a #1 WR, despite the constant media attention, and will certainly not be good enough to permit Welker to benefit from double coverage on him, although you can be certain that it will be spun that way if Welker enjoys any kind of success.
     
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    Puzzling trades, indeed. Of course, the Patriots gave up next to nothing in draft picks, and only have to pick up a small fraction of the original salaries, most of which are still paid by their former teams, so they think they have very little to lose.

    Ochostinko is clearly on the downside of his career, and what better place to go than the Pats with Welker drawing double-coverage on the inside, and often taking one of the best corners (such as Revis) with him? As for fat slob Haynesworth, Belichick must think he can motivate a rock. Haynesworth's biggist gripe was that he DID NOT want to play nose tackle. Since the Patriots use a 3-4 D, where else can he play? Maybe Wilfork will take big Al to all of the area buffets to motivate him to play once every 3 or 4 downs.
     
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    Suddenly I'm starting to get concerned about the Patriots. First they sign lazy fat lard Haynesworth and now Ochostinko. Both of these buffoons are arrogant troublemakers. Does anyone actually believe Haynesworth will be in shape this season and Stinko will behave himself? Not a chance.
     
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    Belichick has cut, released, and “jerked aroundâ€￾ his fair share of white skill players over the years…WR Sean Morey, WR Dane Looker, WR Chas Gessner, WR Scott McCready, WR Jimmy Farris, WR Tim Dwight, WR Dan Stricker, S Ray Ventrone, S Shawn Mayer, S Matt Stevens, and the most inexplicable of all, TE Garrett Mills.

    It’s nice to see that you’ve found your way onto the new board, my friend.
     
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    Thrashen! A wealth of knowledge bringing out S Matt Stevens, led the country in INT's, I believe it was 13 for Appalachian St. in his senior year.

    Did you know he was paralyzed from the chest down in a motorcycle accident in 2007, but now is walking with the help of some type of walking device?

    BTW, App. St. now has a another rising star at S(hopefully) Patrick Blaylock!

    After leading the state of N.C. in tackles his senior year and making all-state at LB in the largest classification 4AA, ASU let him walk-on, imagine that, and now he's EARNED his scholarship and may be starting this his sophomore year. Probabably should post this on D-1,D-1AA snubs?
     
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    If so, how can the situation of White football players be improved in the future?
     
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    CR, the only way I see it happening is when white players out perform blacks in all facets and measureables(Also get very lucky; Peyton Hillis). At this point it is rare that we see this and I realize that's asking almost the impossible thing to overcome, but it is happening, albeit at a snails pace. Woodhead's ability could not be ignored forever and he had some luck also. I can name others, too.

    I just hope we get some more tremendous athletic talent and luck out there, because as a I said it's almost impossible to overcome, but it can happen.
     
  25. Riddlewire

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    Critical Mass.

    The stench of the afflete will have to reach the high heavens first. Violent crime, which is now the norm, will have to be widely reported. Academic fraud, same thing. College campuses will have to turn into the same roving bands of flashmob thieves that are currently plaguing most metropolitan areas in the U.S. now. Of course, that still won't be enough for the media (or even the fans) to admit the problem. However, if any men of conscience still exist in Academia, they might reside in the halls of the NCAA itself. Coaches (and athletic directors) will never stop pursuing their beloved affletes. But the NCAA can easily make it difficult or impossible to do so. They already have the tool in place. It just needs tweaking. The APR can be adjusted for stiffer penalties at a more unforgiving level. Also, it should be applied to the high end of the scale, too. Athletic programs which attain a consistently high APR score should be rewarded with bonus scholarships and extra practice days. With penalties on one side and rewards on the other, I can easily see a team like Vanderbilt, with a ten-man roster advantage and five extra days to prepare, beating a 'primate house' team like North Carolina in an early season non-conference matchup. It wouldn't take many instances like that to convince coaches that exploiting the new APR rules on the positive side would be a winning strategy. That wouldn't change things in high school football, unfortunately. More and more moron coaches across the country are adopting the Spread offense and reshuffling their personnel to get more negroes on the field (or, in the case of Arkansas, importing those negroes from out of town). However, a decade of white-heavy teams dominating college football would have the same effect as majority white dominance in Major League Baseball does. It would suppress the enthusiasm of the young black population for the sport. Fewer of them would try out and pursue football in the first place, thus creating a self-feeding cycle. And since the NFL is based on trickle-up employment, their "hiring pool" would get whiter and whiter as the years rolled on.

    I can see no other possibilities for reversing the current trends.
     

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